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Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

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  • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

    Originally posted by HyeSocialist View Post
    Service length should be reduced to 18months. Studies show that officers in their last 6 months commit the vast majority of crimes/hazing against new recruits. They know they have seniority and are on their way out.

    Institute drafting of women for 12 months in noncombat roles.

    Make the majority of front line troops contract, professional servicemen.

    We dont have the luxury to do that. 2 years is a minimum for our tiny population. Besides, 18 months is not enough to learn to specialise in certain fields. Israel even has 3 years for decades now.

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    • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

      Originally posted by HyeSocialist View Post
      Service length should be reduced to 18months.

      Studies show that officers in their last 6 months commit the vast majority of crimes/hazing against new recruits.

      They know they have seniority and are on their way out. ....
      If these studies have any value it means seniors will start misbehaving after 12 months of service. If your suggestion is adopted.

      I suggest the answer has to be, increase the conscription period by 6 months and release them 6 months early having
      achieved defined performance target for the benefit of the army.

      .
      Politics is not about the pursuit of morality nor what's right or wrong
      Its about self interest at personal and national level often at odds with the above.
      Great politicians pursue the National interest and small politicians personal interests

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      • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

        Armenian air defense subdivision is sent to Ashuluk firing range in Russia. 2015






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          Interesting, ISIS drones drop dumb bombs on an Abrams. Still accurate but did not destroy the tank.
          We can develop this easily and it won't cost much.

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          • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

            Originally posted by arakeretzig View Post
            We dont have the luxury to do that. 2 years is a minimum for our tiny population. Besides, 18 months is not enough to learn to specialise in certain fields. Israel even has 3 years for decades now.
            I believe the conscripts should be paid well.
            The economy gets a major blow from young males not contributing to the GDP for 24 months.
            Speaking from from a strict economic standpoint here, before someone goes mainstream and tell me "There would be no economy without the boys serving."

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            • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

              Originally posted by londontsi View Post
              If these studies have any value it means seniors will start misbehaving after 12 months of service. If your suggestion is adopted.

              I suggest the answer has to be, increase the conscription period by 6 months and release them 6 months early having
              achieved defined performance target for the benefit of the army.

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              In my opinion, our army should move away from soviet or Russian system of relations between officers and conscripts where "dedovschina" (fellow senior) is part. In that sistem officers treat soldiers differently according to their seniority, and soldiers go with no respect and right at the beginning to unofficially officer like at the end.
              Russian command and rank sistem is still not changed since 19Th century.
              Rules and laws have to be changed to where keeping command structure mechanisms have to be adapted in protecting soldier's human rights and give them ability to challenge their superiors or be protected by military laws.
              Otherwise, not having venue but official complains (which everybody avoids, not to be branded) soldiers take matters outside of army rules and into their own hands.
              So officers and conscripts confront each other outside of barracks or out in trenches.
              Last edited by Hakob; 01-25-2017, 02:30 AM.

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                Troop numbers in S. Russia need to be bolstered amid tensions – defense minister
                Troop numbers in Russia’s Southern Military District need to be strengthened over the situation in southeast Ukraine and the activity of international terrorist groups in the North Caucasus, Russian Defense Minister Sergey Shoigu said at the ministry’s board meeting on Wednesday. “Work has to be continued to improve the combat structure of the district’s troops, hire contract servicemen and equip troops with new types of armament and military hardware and to develop military infrastructure,” the minister said. Last year, the Southern Military District’s combat capabilities were boosted by 10 percent, TASS reported.

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                • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

                  Originally posted by Vahram90
                  Why all the hate towards De Waal? De Waal has never said anything anti-armenian. You cannot expect from an international neutral analyst that he talks about "historical ownership" of the territories. Historical ownership is no legal category in current international law. The fact that we lived in Karabakh for a longer period changes nothing. Being indigenous does not mean that the azeris whose ancestors have settled in South Caucasus from the 11th century on (in the lowlands of Karabakh later and in Kelbajar, Lachin, Qubadlu and Zangelan since 1920s) have no right to live there. The settlement of turkish-speaking people in "Anatolia" and the "South Caucasus" is a historic fact and regarded as a normal process. It's a completely other question that for us Armenians this settlement was a tragedy and connected to loss of land. We Armenians have to think only about our interests but you cannot expect from anybody who is not armenian that he prioritizes the armenian settlement in the so-called seven regions in the middle ages and forgets about the azeri settlement after turkish invasions. From an objective point of view both nations have the right to live there and it doesn't matter how much culture we have created there how little the azeri cultural influence on the region is. Our argument should not be that azeris are invaders or nomadic newcomers in the region and have therefore no right to live there but that we have to do everything necessary to guarantee armenian life in all Karabakh.
                  By the way, De Waal is perhaps the only western analyst who has understood the mentality of both conflict parties and what this war means to us Armenians.
                  All of this is nice and stuff, then when you realize you're dealing with blood-hungry turks who are incapable of being 10 meter distance from an armenian, without resorting to voilence, your argument becomes without purpose. But i guess you're one of those eurpafied humanists i keep hearing Armenia needs lately?

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                    Armenian air defense subdivision on Ashuluk firing range in Russia. 2015








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