Re: Buy N.K./Artsakh?
TruAnatolian, so far the only reasoning you've given for why we should be ready to conceed Artsakh and show hostility to a large portion of our members with your comments is because of this silly scheme of 70 million Turks, 30 million Azeris and 3 million Armenians. I'm sorry to say, but numbers don't mean as much as you'd like to think, especially in the Caucasus, especially when Artsakh is defended by Fedayis and especially when conceeding Artsakh is the beginning of the end for Armenia. If you uproot Artsakh, you're abandoning perhaps the most strategic and worthy front, geographically and morally, that Armenians have against the Turkic cesspool around them.
I also would like to warn you that you could get banned, just like anybody else could, if you continue to aggravate members here with hostile, insulting remarks. By now, you've gotten a decent amount of insults back to you, which is only normal considering your behavior here (it's even kind of an initiation for the crowd we have here).
I think the exchanges have reached an equilibrium point now and it's time to cool it. Understand?
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Re: Buy N.K./Artsakh?
Point taken Zoravar. I agree, hope for a peaceful resolution isn't lost yet, and until then we should continue seeking recognition for Artsakh. I just think strategically and demographically speaking It's not in our best interest to continue antagonizing the Turks. The battle of Manzikert is over and lost and they are established firmly in the region, its in our best interest to atleast be neutral with them.
Now im not saying give up everything, for instance the drive for Armenian genocide recognition, I would never give that up. Even if they recognize it Ill still be out there on April 24 waving my fist in the air. Karabakh I guess we'll just have to wait and see.
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Re: Buy N.K./Artsakh?
Listen to me Isgagan Anadoltsi,
Many of us here are not Eastern/Soviet Armenians and/or Dashnaktsakan. I certainly am not.
There are a few simple things you should understand:
- You don't make concessions when you are in position of force. And we still are politically and militarily stronger than Azerbaijan.
- We are keeping at bay the 70 million Turks thanks to our alliance with Russia. The alliance is not because of our/their black/brown/blue eyes or because we are Russophiles and they like Armenian Cognac, but because of common geopolitical interests.
- There is a time for strong stance and there is a time for dialogue. A time for demands and a time for concessions. Now, is the time to stay strong. We have been doing that for the last 15+ years and nobody dared to touch us. In the meanwhile, we have grown economicaly despite the Azeri-Turkish blockade and the irrational behaviour of one of our neighbours (Georgia). What more do you want?
- In case you want to retreat or make concessions, always remember this: "If you give a banana to a gorilla, he will come back and ask for more".Last edited by ZORAVAR; 10-21-2008, 07:58 AM.
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Alright buddy...relax. You think your being chivilrous or something? Her dad would string you up by your scrawny little neck anyways.
Im not interested in arguing with you, I tried to join this, spark a little debate and see other peoples views. And I'll I get is being called a Turk, Asked to leave this and that.
All you want is people to say what you already think in different voice. You know who else does that? Insecure 18 year old girls.
Peace out, I hope none of you ever hold a position of power in Armenian policy making.
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Re: Buy N.K./Artsakh?
Originally posted by TruAnatolian View PostLoL..... pure slum mentality. Someone brings up an idea you don't agree with and you shun them. Armenians like you, NEED armenians like me to make sure you don't do the kind of stupid sh*t your doing now. Now get your head out of your ass and just think about that for a second.
Originally posted by Federate View PostԴժբախտաբար ընկեր Երաժիշտա, ապուշութիւնը ազգութեան պատեր չունի։
Originally posted by TruAnatolian View PostYou eastern armenians are so f*ing Sovietized its disgusting. Russia is our ally yegher, hahah, Russia is our Dominatrix. They LOVE that we don't get along with Turks that makes us need them like a junky needs heroin. Actually, Russia is the only country benefiting in any tangible way from the Artsakh conflict. Actually you might be a very settled western armenian who is living to comfortably to understand the way things are working in Armenia. You are willing to give up the long-term interests of our Country for the short-term "pride" we gain from artsakh. To me you are the one who isn't the Armenian. If you want an Isolated Armenia then take your dashnak friends and start your own country. Other than that, There are us Armenians who want a stable and prosperous country, not in danger by our neighbours. All you think about is an idealized mass of land that we dont have the capacity to develop nor defend.
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LoL..... pure slum mentality. Someone brings up an idea you don't agree with and you shun them. Armenians like you, NEED armenians like me to make sure you don't do the kind of stupid sh*t your doing now.
Let me restate: 70 Million Turks + 30 Million Azeris vs. 3 Million Armenians and some rare heroes like Monte.
Now get your head out of your ass and just think about that for a second.
We can have a highly developed country, our affinity for science and the knowledge of the diaspora would put us ahead of any of the other caucasus countries. All we need to do is "get along`
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Originally posted by TruAnatolian View PostYou eastern armenians are so f*ing Sovietized its disgusting. Russia is our ally yegher, hahah, Russia is our Dominatrix. They LOVE that we don't get along with Turks that makes us need them like a junky needs heroin. Actually, Russia is the only country benefiting in any tangible way from the Artsakh conflict.
Actually you might be a very settled western armenian who is living to comfortably to understand the way things are working in Armenia.
You are willing to give up the long-term interests of our Country for the short-term "pride" we gain from artsakh.
To me you are the one who isn't the Armenian. If you want an Isolated Armenia then take your dashnak friends and start your own country.
Other than that, There are us Armenians who want a stable and prosperous country, not in danger by our neighbours.
All you think about is an idealized mass of land that we dont have the capacity to develop nor defend.
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Re: Buy N.K./Artsakh?
You eastern armenians are so f*ing Sovietized its disgusting. Russia is our ally yegher, hahah, Russia is our Dominatrix. They LOVE that we don't get along with Turks that makes us need them like a junky needs heroin. Actually, Russia is the only country benefiting in any tangible way from the Artsakh conflict.
Actually you might be a very settled western armenian who is living to comfortably to understand the way things are working in Armenia.
You are willing to give up the long-term interests of our Country for the short-term "pride" we gain from artsakh.
To me you are the one who isn't the Armenian. If you want an Isolated Armenia then take your dashnak friends and start your own country.
Other than that, There are us Armenians who want a stable and prosperous country, not in danger by our neighbours.
All you think about is an idealized mass of land that we dont have the capacity to develop nor defend.
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Re: Buy N.K./Artsakh?
Originally posted by yerazhishda View Post
You Turks are so comical thinking you can come in here and convince us that you're Armenian. Abush! I'm not even going to waste my time explaining why no Armenian - regardless of his political affliation - would say the trash you just said.
Get lost.Get lost is right!
To TrueAnatolian: You are not Armenian you don't talk or feel like one.Get this through your turkish thick head... Russia is our ally and Artsakh and much more is ours!!! Plus one of these days we'll get our Naxichevan back from you!!!!!
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