Caucasus Chronicles

[dstyle]

ya armenian vs armenian fighting is bs. ive heard about those fights. gay. ya.

[vrej]

first off i met the author of your book and listened to his lecture last year when we came to my university. everything you read in th book should not be taken for face value my friend...i dont fully grasp what your trying to say through the excerp your talking about with maroukian, any smart individual would have known the situation and how fatal it would have been, how do we know attempts were not made to aid the situation, or if anything could have been done at all?

to dubb Tashnags as traitors, as the commy did in the first reply is totally childish, and for it to come from an individual who is patronising communism through his logo is hypocritic because those comy Armenians were the real traitors my friend, when they suppressed and hunted down our intellectuals, and thinkers, and who were about to liquidate Armenia to the turks and azeris if it was'nt for karekin njteh...

yes every political party has faults, i agree.. even tashnagtzootyoon, but all i hear in all these posts all over this site is tashnag this tashnag that.... i smell jealousy, hey if i dont care what you are or who u are before you bash tashnagtzootyoon ask yourself if your doing even half the things an A.Y.F youth is doing for the country, or a Hye Tad member is doing for our future and armenia? go ahead ask your self and then critisize

[xBaron Dants]

Originally posted by vrej yes every political party has faults, i agree.. even tashnagtzootyoon, but all i hear in all these posts all over this site is tashnag this tashnag that.... i smell jealousy, hey if i dont care what you are or who u are before you bash tashnagtzootyoon ask yourself if your doing even half the things an A.Y.F youth is doing for the country, or a Hye Tad member is doing for our future and armenia? go ahead ask your self and then critisize

Hmm, I just asked myself, and I feel completely comfortable.

As I already said, I do not enjoy seeing a political party gaining this "holiness" where it CANNOT BE CRITICIZED. I find that to be dangerous.

By the way, you calling it jealousy further proves my point of self-segregation. You still see non-tashnags as "them" or the "other guys", right? This sense of "our youth is doing much more than THEIR youth is"...

[vrej]

no not nessacarily baron dantz, i would love to see the youth of other orginizations do more and i always encourage them to when i discuss issues with them be it Tashnagtzagan or not, the jelousy im talking about is jelouse due to certain individuals not being able to find the medium through wich they can act, and if that ease is not there for some individuals they don't act.

For me the medium is A.R.F.Y.O.C whose goals i belive in and were i want to work towarss those goals with every thing i can do within the boundaries of my ability.

and about critisizm.. of cuorse it can be critisized, why shouldnt it be, everyone makes mistakes its ok.. Tashnagtzootyoon has always been critisized and it still is as we can see, some accept it some dont. but when it comes to a point were it is being bashed and purpusly defaced without any credible information in some cases, that is wrong and any tashnagtzagan will stand up against that.

For its members it is a holy thing, and i don't see any thing wrong with that.

[vrej]

Originally posted by Baron Dants
By the way, you calling it jealousy further proves my point of self-segregation. You still see non-tashnags as "them" or the "other guys", right? This sense of "our youth is doing much more than THEIR youth is"...

I do not see the non-tashangs as "them" or "the other guys" no i see them as Armenians, and work hard to make whoever it is feel the existance of the cause and justice we are fighting for. Yes i get pissed at individuals who don't care about Armenia's rights, but when i see an Armenian, whatever or whoever it may be, that is active and at the least talks Armenian with his friends, about Armenian issues, and is worried about our country and people in and out of their lands than that indiviual is doing something and i see that individual as a true Armenian.

[xBaron Dants]

Originally posted by vrej I do not see the non-tashangs as "them" or "the other guys" no i see them as Armenians, and work hard to make whoever it is feel the existance of the cause and justice we are fighting for. Yes i get pissed at individuals who don't care about Armenia's rights, but when i see an Armenian, whatever or whoever it may be, that is active and at the least talks Armenian with his friends, about Armenian issues, and is worried about our country and people in and out of their lands than that indiviual is doing something and i see that individual as a true Armenian.

Fair enough. I agree wholeheartedly. Who cares what organization they work with, as long as they do something. I still think that an effort should be put to present more joint events, and create a sort of partnership between all those different organizations.

When I went to Armenia this summer with the AGBU scouts of Montreal, we climbed Mount Arakadz with Homentmen scouts from Armenia. It was a blast. More stuff like that should be done locally. We're getting there though...