Iranian-Armenian relations

[Mos]

Re: Iranian-Armenian relations

I said jooish elites do not care for us. You need me to provide you with proof? Have you not read who lobbies against the AG resolution, and even did so this past year? Have you not read who hates Russia and by proxy would like to tear Armenia and the rest of the Caucasus away?

Do not put words in my mouth. It is the elites of a nation that matter, and in this case the jooish elites for the most part are lined up against Russia and Armenia.

Russia recognizes the Armenian Genocide, Iranians respect and like Armenians, joos either do not know Armenians, are cordial, or don't care for us much.

Also, read the book, the Holocaust Industry, and you will see why jooish elites care so much about maintaining their monopoly on suffering.

The xxxish lobby working against the AG resolution was because of Israel's strategic relations with Turkey, not because they had some moral or ethnic hatred towards Armenians. When relations cooled between the two, their support stopped and actually in some countries (e.g. Netherlands) they have been working with Armenian groups for armenian genocide criminalisation. So again it's not because J3ws have a plan against Armenians, it's because these lobby groups support Israel and they will whatever is in Israel's strategic interests. J3wish elites are not on an anti-armenian agenda, they are on a pro-Israeli agenda, and Israelis good relations with Turkey hence will make them support anti-Armenian issues - but these are relations between two countries, and when those relations cooled down, that cooperation went away, which just comes to show this is not some inherent hatred towards Armenians, it's just people looking out for their country's interests.

And no I haven't read that all j3ws want to to tear Armenia and the rest of the Caucasus away, please provide me with that text.

[Mos]

Re: Iranian-Armenian relations

Are you a member of ADL? AJC? B’nai Brith or the J3wish Institute of National Security Affairs?

Come on, these organizations work with the J3wish community in Turkey and other parts of the world to repeatedly deny the rights of Armenians in Genocide recognition.

I know what they work for. But do you know why they did so? It was not a worldwide j3wish conspiracy against Armenians, but it was stemming from Israeli's strategic partnership with Turkey. When their relations cooled down, these groups stopped supporting Turkish efforts, and even in some instances started supporting the Armenian cause. It's all a political chess match - the genocide issue is just a political leverage used by such groups and countries.

Just because I looking at this through a pragmatic view, doesn't make me a member of ADL.

[Mos]

Re: Iranian-Armenian relations

Mos, my point is that history does mean something - if it didn't, attempting to get recognition of the Armenian Genocide could be written off by such a foolish statement as your quote above.

Correspondingly, Iranian/Armenian historical ties have saved Armenians from the Ottomans, Khazars, and Mongol tribes more than once in history. History means something. The fact that there are millions of Parskahye (Persian Armenians) all over the world means something - It means that Iranians are not just going sit by and watch their Armenian cousins or family members get slaughtered.

Well it's great the help that Iranians have given to Armenians, but that doesn't make Armenians and Iranians cousins.

[Persopolis]

Re: Iranian-Armenian relations

Well it's great the help that Iranians have given to Armenians, but that doesn't make Armenians and Iranians cousins.

True, helping someone does not make them cousins: But centuries of intermarriage does:

[KanadaHye]

Re: Iranian-Armenian relations

KanadaHye, Good post -- you know the dangers of Zionism. One thing that you ALWAYS have to be careful about with Israel, is whether they will exploit you or set up a false flag operation. Here in your post it looks like he was using an Armenian name and working for Israel. This is not the first such case - Iran's Intelligence also caught Israelis posing as Muslims. Like I've always said, I feel sorry for peace-loving xxxs (e.g. Norman Finkelstein), but I am not afraid to call Israel out for its history of manipulation and mischief.

By no means am I against peace-loving and intelligent J3ws in many communities around the world. If I'm going to get my taxes done or need a good dentist, I know where to go. I'm referring to those that change identities to cover up their past or even individuals who pretend to be J3wish just so they can have an excuse and yell antisemitism to avoid criticism. I applaud Iran for standing up to Zionism even if the Iranian leaders are nut jobs, at least they've brought attention to the problem.

[Armanen]

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The xxxish lobby working against the AG resolution was because of Israel's strategic relations with Turkey, not because they had some moral or ethnic hatred towards Armenians. When relations cooled between the two, their support stopped and actually in some countries (e.g. Netherlands) they have been working with Armenian groups for armenian genocide criminalisation. So again it's not because J3ws have a plan against Armenians, it's because these lobby groups support Israel and they will whatever is in Israel's strategic interests. J3wish elites are not on an anti-armenian agenda, they are on a pro-Israeli agenda, and Israelis good relations with Turkey hence will make them support anti-Armenian issues - but these are relations between two countries, and when those relations cooled down, that cooperation went away, which just comes to show this is not some inherent hatred towards Armenians, it's just people looking out for their country's interests.

And no I haven't read that all j3ws want to to tear Armenia and the rest of the Caucasus away, please provide me with that text.

No, many of them still help or try to place their genocide above ours. Do not be fooled into thinking that turkey and israel are no longer allies, they still are. The turks were trying to score brownie points with the Arab street by acting like they care about the Palestinians.

Since israel is aligned with anti-Armenian forces, by proxy it is anti-Armenian. If saying they are pro-israel makes you feel better, which should not be the case, then fine call it that. Furthermore, many members of the young turks and the bolsheviks were ethnic joos. These two groups committed huge crimes against Armenians and many other ethnic groups.

Another point, the western media outlets which are owned by joos but do not use the word 'genocide' when referring to the mass killings in 1915-1920. Why is that?

I will provide you with the Caucasus text soon. But if you really are a student of history you would know that zionists hate Russia with a passion, or at least a strong and Orthodox Russia.

[Mos]

Re: Iranian-Armenian relations

True, helping someone does make them cousins: But centuries of intermarriage does:

Persians and Armenians are ethnically not cousins. Our only ethnic cousins are Hemshins, who live in Northeast Turkey and speak a dialect of Armenian.

[Armanen]

Re: Iranian-Armenian relations

Persians and Armenians are ethnically not cousins. Our only ethnic cousins are Hemshins, who live in Northeast Turkey and speak a dialect of Armenian.

Greeks, Persians, georgians, and Caucasian Albanians are the closest ethnic groups to Armenians. Hemshins are not a separate ethnic group, they are islamized Armenians.

[KanadaHye]

Re: Iranian-Armenian relations

I know what they work for. But do you know why they did so? It was not a worldwide j3wish conspiracy against Armenians, but it was stemming from Israeli's strategic partnership with Turkey. When their relations cooled down, these groups stopped supporting Turkish efforts, and even in some instances started supporting the Armenian cause. It's all a political chess match - the genocide issue is just a political leverage used by such groups and countries.

Just because I looking at this through a pragmatic view, doesn't make me a member of ADL.

Your view is disturbing because you're giving these organizations a right to use an entire nation of people as PAWNS. Armenians are not dispensable game pieces to be put on the front line so that Kings and Queens can sit on their thrones. What does Israel care about what Turkey does? ISRAEL OWNS TURKEY through British and French Zionists.

[Mos]

Re: Iranian-Armenian relations

No, many of them still help or try to place their genocide above ours. Do not be fooled into thinking that turkey and israel are no longer allies, they still are. The turks were trying to score brownie points with the Arab street by acting like they care about the Palestinians.

Since israel is aligned with anti-Armenian forces, by proxy it is anti-Armenian. If saying they are pro-israel makes you feel better, which should not be the case, then fine call it that. Furthermore, many members of the young turks and the bolsheviks were ethnic joos. These two groups committed huge crimes against Armenians and many other ethnic groups.

Another point, the western media outlets which are owned by joos but do not use the word 'genocide' when referring to the mass killings in 1915-1920. Why is that?

I will provide you with the Caucasus text soon. But if you really are a student of history you would know that zionists hate Russia with a passion, or at least a strong and Orthodox Russia.

Their alliance has been greatly weakened, and the people in both countries vehemently don't like each other.

Those 2 groups, as you said, committed crimes against many other ethnic groups - again I wouldn't tie that into a hatred of only Armenians. The Young Turks especially were not motivated by "j3wish" motives but by Turkish nationalistic motives.

First off not all media is controlled by J3ws, second off, you really believe that media not controlled by j3ws would use the word 'genocide'? This is a heavy assumption you are making - the reason some don't use the word 'genocide' is because it is more politically correct given their country doesn't recognise it, and they don't want to offend Turkey.