Long live the Russian Federation!

[Mos]

Re: Long live the Russian Federation!

The days of potential Turkish aggression against us are over. not because they like us or something, but because they are trying to get into the EU and gain more legitimacy with the international community.

[KarotheGreat]

Re: Long live the Russian Federation!

The days of potential Turkish aggression against us are over. not because they like us or something, but because they are trying to get into the EU and gain more legitimacy with the international community.

Do you really believe that? How can you believe that?
You know you are one of the fools in history who that no war could come because one of other alliance or organisation. History proved every one of them wrong and trust me it will prove you wrong as well.

[Mos]

Re: Long live the Russian Federation!

Do you really believe that? How can you believe that?
You know you are one of the fools in history who that no war could come because one of other alliance or organisation. History proved every one of them wrong and trust me it will prove you wrong as well.

yes but world is a different place now, wars are becoming more and more outdated. That's why turkey joining the EU actually may be a good thing for us, as they will have to behave themselves no matter what.

[Tigranakert]

Re: Long live the Russian Federation!

Russia is a military ally and most of Armenia's weapons come from Russia. I don't see NATO members offering weapons to Armenia. Armenia must deepen her ties with the EU, US as well as Iran, Arab states, India etc, but while NATO is on the side of Armenia's opponents, the current policy is the only one available.

As we know most ordinary Russians and Ukrainians don't know the difference between Armenian, Georgian, Abkhaz, 'Azerbaijani', Chechen, Daghestani, even Turkish,Kazakh, Uzbek, Kirghiz, Tatar etc. So Armenians can suffer racial harassment. That is very unpleasant for Armenians. But Russia will remain an ally as long as Turkey and Azerbaijan remain threats. If in 25-30 years these threats disappear, then it's a different matter. I don't want Turkish aircraft over Armenia's skies in exchange for empty promises from the EU!

This is why Armenia must be ruled by a strong force. Why do people make so many stupid idiotic statements, it is in your blood to be biased towards Russians?

Russians seeing no difference between Armenians and Chechens? One thing I can tell you, I have lived a long time in my life in The Netherlands and I can easily state I have faced more racism during my stay in The Netherlands than when I was in Russia.

''Intellectuel'' Dutch people do not know a single thing about Armenians, they see us as Turks and prevent foreigners into getting high ranks in businesses, whereas Russians damn well know who Armenians are and where we come from. It is much easier to get well-paid and high-ranking jobs in Russia as they do not look at your ethnicity (and ofcourse a lot of businesses are owned by non-ethnic Russians).

When, when can you people stop being biased about Russians? I think you have watched to much media. I will suggest you to think for once.

[Tigranakert]

Re: Long live the Russian Federation!

The days of potential Turkish aggression against us are over. not because they like us or something, but because they are trying to get into the EU and gain more legitimacy with the international community.

yes but world is a different place now, wars are becoming more and more outdated. That's why turkey joining the EU actually may be a good thing for us, as they will have to behave themselves no matter what.

You are one scary person. It's a shame you call yourself an Armenian. How can an Armenian state he is anti-Dashnak, be a fierce racist against Iranians (who are important allies) but believe in the ''goodness'' of Turks, ''as the days of aggression of these angels are over, and the islamic Erdogan wants to join the EU to have ''peace in the world'' and give hugs and kisses to everyone''.

Joining or not joingen the EU, the world is ruled by evil and the EU itself is one big source of injustice.

[Mos]

Re: Long live the Russian Federation!

You are one scary person. It's a shame you call yourself an Armenian. How can an Armenian state he is anti-Dashnak, be a fierce racist against Iranians (who are important allies) but believe in the ''goodness'' of Turks, ''as the days of aggression of these angels are over, and the islamic Erdogan wants to join the EU to have ''peace in the world'' and give hugs and kisses to everyone''.

Joining or not joingen the EU, the world is ruled by evil and the EU itself is one big source of injustice.

So in order to be an Armenian you have to be pro-Dashnak? Where did you get that BS from? There are plenty of patriotic Armenians that don't agree with the politics of the Dashnaks, many in Armenia. Second, I'm not a racist against Iranians, and I really don't know where you got that from. I have many Iranian friends, and actually some of my closest friends are Iranian, and I find our partnership with them very valuable. I only disagree when people say Armenians and Iranians are "brothers" which is not accurate. And yes I don't like the Iranian hooligans who conduct drug trade in Armenia or steal our women and force them to convert to Islam. This doesn't mean I'm "racist" against Iranians, so please chose your words carefully.

Third, I never said anything about the "goodness" of the Turks, I said that's it's unrealistic that they will consider attacking us by force given the circumstances, especially if they are in the EU. You really think Turkey would want to risk WW3 with Russia just to attack us? They may be dumb, but they are not that dumb.

[KarotheGreat]

Re: Long live the Russian Federation!

Russia is a military ally and most of Armenia's weapons come from Russia. I don't see NATO members offering weapons to Armenia. Armenia must deepen her ties with the EU, US as well as Iran, Arab states, India etc, but while NATO is on the side of Armenia's opponents, the current policy is the only one available.

As we know most ordinary Russians and Ukrainians don't know the difference between Armenian, Georgian, Abkhaz, 'Azerbaijani', Chechen, Daghestani, even Turkish,Kazakh, Uzbek, Kirghiz, Tatar etc. So Armenians can suffer racial harassment. That is very unpleasant for Armenians. But Russia will remain an ally as long as Turkey and Azerbaijan remain threats. If in 25-30 years these threats disappear, then it's a different matter. I don't want Turkish aircraft over Armenia's skies in exchange for empty promises from the EU!

Every Russian I've ever met knew very well who Armenians were and were very friendly towards Armenia. You've got racists everywhere and Russia is not an exception. The point is like Tigranakert has said that Armenians are treated like xxxx when they are in the West and almost no one knows who Armenians are and very few care.

yes but world is a different place now, wars are becoming more and more outdated. That's why turkey joining the EU actually may be a good thing for us, as they will have to behave themselves no matter what.

Do you actually believe this BS. The Eu stood by and looked how they took over half of Cyprus and are still doing nothing, even with Cyprus being a member. Now look at Armenia not a member, tell me how much would they care if Turkey attacked Armenia? No one there would give a damn about Armenia.

[Tigranakert]

Re: Long live the Russian Federation!

So in order to be an Armenian you have to be pro-Dashnak? Where did you get that BS from? There are plenty of patriotic Armenians that don't agree with the politics of the Dashnaks, many in Armenia. Second, I'm not a racist against Iranians, and I really don't know where you got that from. I have many Iranian friends, and actually some of my closest friends are Iranian, and I find our partnership with them very valuable. I only disagree when people say Armenians and Iranians are "brothers" which is not accurate. And yes I don't like the Iranian hooligans who conduct drug trade in Armenia or steal our women and force them to convert to Islam. This doesn't mean I'm "racist" against Iranians, so please chose your words carefully.

Third, I never said anything about the "goodness" of the Turks, I said that's it's unrealistic that they will consider attacking us by force given the circumstances, especially if they are in the EU. You really think Turkey would want to risk WW3 with Russia just to attack us? They may be dumb, but they are not that dumb.

You made one good point.

You really think Turkey would want to risk WW3 with Russia just to attack us?

No, because of the Russian Federation they won't, whether Turkey is in the European Union or not.

[Mos]

Re: Long live the Russian Federation!

You think a EU member country can just attack when they feel like? Rules are different when you're part of the EU, and Turkey won't risk their partnership (or membership) in the EU just to attack Armenia. In the early 90s of course Russia was the big deterrent for Turkey not joining.

[Mos]

Re: Long live the Russian Federation!

Every Russian I've ever met knew very well who Armenians were and were very friendly towards Armenia. You've got racists everywhere and Russia is not an exception. The point is like Tigranakert has said that Armenians are treated like xxxx when they are in the West and almost no one knows who Armenians are and very few care.

Obviously any post-Soviet person will know Armenians. We were in the same country for 100 years!!! Plus you go to countries with a sizable Armenian diaspora (France) and many will know what Armenia is.

I would argue Armenians are treated better in Europe than in Russia. I know many Armenians who been physically abused and killed by Russian skinheads, and some of the discrimination is blatantly racist. I actually have relatives living in Russia who've been targeted many times. I too fear ever stepping foot in Russia as I don't want to be targeted by skin heads, as I look like someone from the Caucasus or even middle east.

Do you actually believe this BS. The Eu stood by and looked how they took over half of Cyprus and are still doing nothing, even with Cyprus being a member. Now look at Armenia not a member, tell me how much would they care if Turkey attacked Armenia? No one there would give a damn about Armenia.

EU back then was a much, much weaker power and influence there was little it could do. However, in the present day, at least EU has the balls to criticize Turkey for its human rights, genocide denial, etc. Russia has been getting cozy with Turkey on the other hand, and with their sub-par human rights history and interest in solid relations with Turkey I doubt they will criticize Turkey like that.