Prospects of a Kurdish state and what it means for Armenia

[Vrej1915]

Re: Prospects of a Kurdish state and what it means for Armenia

http://www.iranpoliticsclub.net/maps/maps12/index.htm

Stan is an indo european suffix, we use it as well, as do indians, etc...
It means country of...

Hayastan, Barsgastan, Russastan...

In Hindi
Pakistan...

By contamination from farsi, turkic languages of central asia did adopt it, since under farsi influence or farsi components like:
Turkestan, Turkmenstan, Uzbekstan, Tajikistan (essentially persian ethnos, non turkic)...

So, no need to change what is a largely used suffix in the larger region.
Now what Iran does or not is an other affair...

Part of the answer is in the farsi identity and hegemenic perseption.
For Persians, Kurds are just part of them, and are supposed to remain so. Factually it is true, that the kurds are more related to persians, than any other....

[Eddo211]

Re: Prospects of a Kurdish state and what it means for Armenia

Iran giving no land to Kurds.......they called it Kurdistan just means the Iranian Kurds live there.

"stan" after a name means Provence of Iran.

[Vrej1915]

Re: Prospects of a Kurdish state and what it means for Armenia

They also claim parts of Iran, lol.

Untill the creation of Iraki kurdish entity after 2003, the Iranian provinces were the only ones named Kurdistan...

If we exept the infamous "red kurdistan" of the 1920-s...

[Eddo211]

Re: Prospects of a Kurdish state and what it means for Armenia

They also claim parts of Iran, lol.

[Vrej1915]

Re: Prospects of a Kurdish state and what it means for Armenia

Maps:

http://www.edmaps.com/html/kurdistan_in_seven_maps.html

[Artashes]

Re: Prospects of a Kurdish state and what it means for Armenia

If this is same as English article I read saying killed Kurd lawyer has went to Armenian genocide every April 24 and asked turcs to come clean, then I have something to say ... You need to examine that closer.
Him (slain lawyer) , mayor & governor of Diarbakar , mayor of Van, and (each) and every Kurd that has spoken of the need for -- turc -- to come clean.
I need to make several points here, I hope I can stay focused.
I have not been able to find one (1) written statement by ANY Kurd that admitted complicity in the genocide that was not *** EMMEDIATELY *** followed by this (exact ) exact phrase quote ... The turc inticed us.
Ya folks the Kurd needed heavy inticement to move into every single Armenian dwelling. Ya that's right, the Kurd women really needed inticement to steal the shoes off of DEAD (murdered) Armenian women and exceptional inticement to search the dead bodies of murdered Armenian women for any valuables that the woman with her skull crushed may have had on her lifeless body.
Can you imagine how much inticement it took to get the Kurds to dig holes all around the Armenian churches looking for buried Armenian treasure. Turc probable damn near had to beg the Kurd to do that.
Think of all the inticement the Kurd needed to destroy the Armenian GRAVE YARDS and destroy the katchkars .
On the subject of saving someone ... Find an Armenian that was saved by a Kurd. If it was a women or girl, I guess if you call being raped the same as being saved then yes the Kurds are saviors.
Look at what experience the saved j-ew went through or the black men and women and children went through when they were smuggled to freedom. COMPARE.
Those Kurds who speak of even a modicum of repentance --- DO NOT --- actually represent the general or overwhelming Kurd population. Not even remotely.
However those few who speak out at all in fact are bequeathing to the entire Kurd community in the eyes of the world the title of " compassionate" people.
Also, this ?concern? Shown or spoken of by the Kurd gives to Kurd publicity on the world stage. But not for the shame of their actions , but for the plight of the suffering Kurd. And that via the Armenian genocide.
Let me ask you what kind of inticement I need to offer you to go kill someone and steal all their belongings including their land, and property.
Oh the plight of the compassionate Kurd. I think I'm going to cry.
No, that's not true. I have no tears for the Kurd.
What I have is the genocide of my family.

If you look at the speeches made by the Kurd every April 24th, you will see them exhorting the turc to admit they committed a genocide against the Armenian people. What you won't find is the Kurd telling the Kurd population of their collective shame and --- thievery ---. You will find they do nt mention once that helped murder and expell the Armenians and others so *** they , the Kurd *** could occupy the land and steal any and all valuables.
The Kurd uses the Armenian genocide to strongly accuse the turc of intrangence but only weakly mentions Kurd invovement.
The "PR" stunt the Kurd uses on the genocide of Armenians is a form f intrangence , a subtle but intrangence all the same..
The Kurd still claims the Armenian land for themselves.
Talk is cheap when it's comming from the mouth of Kurds.
3,200 Armenian villages are now occupied by Kurds.
Does anyone think they are ashamed of that?

[Eddo211]

Re: Prospects of a Kurdish state and what it means for Armenia

I want Vengeance...........Turks have to pay. and I don't mean AG recognition. too late for that.

[Artashes]

Re: Prospects of a Kurdish state and what it means for Armenia

Man take it easy, you gonno have heart attack.

We know whats happen......look into the future my friend instead of the past.
We will never forget the past and must one day honor/revenge the genocide victims.

---- vengeance is mine sayeth the Lord ----
I'm not seek revenge. And niether am I going to die via heart attack.
As the saying goes ... Dead men don't lie, so it is , I have told the truth.

[Eddo211]

Re: Prospects of a Kurdish state and what it means for Armenia

Man take it easy, you gonno have heart attack.

We know whats happen......look into the future my friend instead of the past.
We will never forget the past and must one day honor/revenge the genocide victims.

[Artashes]

Re: Prospects of a Kurdish state and what it means for Armenia

Սպանված հայտնի քուրդ փաստաբանը Թուրքիային կոչ էր անում ճանաչել Հայոց ցեղասպանությունը

Դիարբեքիրի Սուրի շրջանում նոյեմբեxրի 28-ին մամուլի ասուլիսի ավարտին լրագրողների աչքի առաջ սպանված Դիարբեքիրի փաստաբանների պալատի նա�xագահ Թահիր Էլչին ամեն տարի ապրիլի 24-ին մասնակցել է Հայոց ցեղասպանության զոxհերի հիշատակի միջոցառումներին։

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Վերջին 2 տարվա մեջ ապրիլի 24-ին Թահիր Էլչին Դիարբեքիրում է մասնակցել Հայոց ցեղասպանության զոհերի հիշատակման միջոցառումներին։ Իսկ 2013-ին մասնակցել Դիարբեքիրում կոտորված հայերի հիշատակին նվիրված հուշարձանի բացմանը։
http://news.am/arm/news/299161.html

If this is same as English article I read saying killed Kurd lawyer has went to Armenian genocide every April 24 and asked turcs to come clean, then I have something to say ... You need to examine that closer.
Him (slain lawyer) , mayor & governor of Diarbakar , mayor of Van, and (each) and every Kurd that has spoken of the need for -- turc -- to come clean.
I need to make several points here, I hope I can stay focused.
I have not been able to find one (1) written statement by ANY Kurd that admitted complicity in the genocide that was not *** EMMEDIATELY *** followed by this (exact ) exact phrase quote ... The turc inticed us.
Ya folks the Kurd needed heavy inticement to move into every single Armenian dwelling. Ya that's right, the Kurd women really needed inticement to steal the shoes off of DEAD (murdered) Armenian women and exceptional inticement to search the dead bodies of murdered Armenian women for any valuables that the woman with her skull crushed may have had on her lifeless body.
Can you imagine how much inticement it took to get the Kurds to dig holes all around the Armenian churches looking for buried Armenian treasure. Turc probable damn near had to beg the Kurd to do that.
Think of all the inticement the Kurd needed to destroy the Armenian GRAVE YARDS and destroy the katchkars .
On the subject of saving someone ... Find an Armenian that was saved by a Kurd. If it was a women or girl, I guess if you call being raped the same as being saved then yes the Kurds are saviors.
Look at what experience the saved j-ew went through or the black men and women and children went through when they were smuggled to freedom. COMPARE.
Those Kurds who speak of even a modicum of repentance --- DO NOT --- actually represent the general or overwhelming Kurd population. Not even remotely.
However those few who speak out at all in fact are bequeathing to the entire Kurd community in the eyes of the world the title of " compassionate" people.
Also, this ?concern? Shown or spoken of by the Kurd gives to Kurd publicity on the world stage. But not for the shame of their actions , but for the plight of the suffering Kurd. And that via the Armenian genocide.
Let me ask you what kind of inticement I need to offer you to go kill someone and steal all their belongings including their land, and property.
Oh the plight of the compassionate Kurd. I think I'm going to cry.
No, that's not true. I have no tears for the Kurd.
What I have is the genocide of my family.