Prospects of a Kurdish state and what it means for Armenia

[Artashes]

Re: Prospects of a Kurdish state and what it means for Armenia

LOL you think I'm being absurd and fraudulent. Fine by me. You can back track all you want.

No backtracking at all. None.
You insert your meaning of my words fraudulently which is absurd.
You take no explanation of my words by me but rather continue to insist you get to decide the meaning of my words.
Nothing but absurdity and fraud, by you .

[gokorik]

Re: Prospects of a Kurdish state and what it means for Armenia

LOL you think I'm being absurd and fraudulent. Fine by me. You can back track all you want.

[Artashes]

Re: Prospects of a Kurdish state and what it means for Armenia

Yes you specifically fasioned those words to meant that killing an kurd is not genocide and calling it a genocided was a poor choce of words rater it shood be looked at as justified revenge. Who the hell do you think you're kidding?

Again you are telling me what I mean even after I've told you that's not what I mean.
I was clear, but you in above post have changed both hye and my words and inserted your meaning.
Your insistence on telling me what I meant is absurd and fraudulent

[londontsi]

Re: Prospects of a Kurdish state and what it means for Armenia

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There seem to be a lot of hot air in this forum about Armenian lands , north Kurdistan etc.
These may be relevant but they need a lot of cooking time.
Let me highlight a far more serious scenario which is so close to our nose we cannot see it.

There has be quite a bit of publicity of “hidden” Armenians who are coming back to the fold. Also adopting the nation's faith.

As we know there is huge pressure on turkey to return Armenian churches and lands of the church which were appropriated.

The way things stand only Turkish citizens and through the Constantinople patriarchy can these lands returned to the church and the people.

It seems there is a huge loophole whereby any group of Turks can claim to be Armenian, adopt the religion and as community claim church and associated lands.
Turkey would love this fiasco to take place.

The question has to be can the patriarchy control events to avoid this sham.

[gokorik]

Re: Prospects of a Kurdish state and what it means for Armenia

Everyone can make a judgement on what I said ?
A judgement of hat I said does not include changing the meaning of what I said.
I fashioned those words to mean specifically what I meant. That's not open to reinterpret.
If you didn't understand you could ask, but you didn't. Rather instead you inserted your meaning and then accuse me of what you said.
The reason I said pull my & hyes post up was because you selectively change my words by taking them out of context.
The jerk comments emmediately follow your total fabrication to depict what I wrote as advocating child murder and genocide etc. again you take my comments out of context to further your meritless and fraudulent tact.

Yes you specifically fasioned those words to meant that killing any kurd is not genocide and calling it a genocided was a poor choce of words rater it shood be looked at as justified revenge. Who the hell do you think you're kidding?

[gokorik]

Re: Prospects of a Kurdish state and what it means for Armenia

Why are there still some graves that were abused? Why werent they destroyed? If every Kurds a genocide compeled animal why are there still khatchkars left in some places? Again things arent as black and white as you're trying to paint it.

[Artashes]

Re: Prospects of a Kurdish state and what it means for Armenia

Whatever you say bro. Everyone can make a judgment on what you meant for themselves. It really seems like you saying what i think. You can post hyefighter2 posts yourself. Who am i your secretary? Im sure if anyone really wanted to they would be capable of looking it up themselves.

Everyone can make a judgement on what I said ?
A judgement of hat I said does not include changing the meaning of what I said.
I fashioned those words to mean specifically what I meant. That's not open to reinterpret.
If you didn't understand you could ask, but you didn't. Rather instead you inserted your meaning and then accuse me of what you said.
The reason I said pull my & hyes post up was because you selectively change my words by taking them out of context.
The jerk comments emmediately follow your total fabrication to depict what I wrote as advocating child murder and genocide etc. again you take my comments out of context to further your meritless and fraudulent tact.

[gokorik]

Re: Prospects of a Kurdish state and what it means for Armenia

Again you use same argument that not all kurds but only some. The destruction of graveyards by some kurds is supported by community ... The destructors come from those communities, the same as the kurd fighter in west Armenia is really supported by those communities or they could not operate.

We have no clue how those attrocites actually took place. Was it a few kurds was it many, did people protest? Were there fights between those that were desecrating graves and others that disagreed? Were the people that disagreed to scared to do something about it because it would put their family in danger. Were these events in the 20's? Or were they yesterday?

You're trying to paint things black and white im trying to tell you real life has many shades of grey. Thing are rarely ever so simple.

[gokorik]

Re: Prospects of a Kurdish state and what it means for Armenia

You have taken my post and misrepresented what I said.
In hyefighters post, I respond by saying ..… no Armenian seeks genocide and I tell him his choice of words is bad.
You then take one of my last sentences as if I responded with that sentence in the beginning of post.
My sentence of ... If we go in there and kill any ... Is not genocide but justice , has nothing to do with advocating genocide.
You clearly are not understanding my post or refuse to understand.
Again you use same argument that not all kurds but only some. The destruction of graveyards by some kurds is supported by community ... The destructors come from those communities, the same as the kurd fighter in west Armenia is really supported by those communities or they could not operate.
You still rearainge my words to suit your argument and distort what I said.
Pull my post and hyefighters post up so everyone can see.
You are clearly not comprehending what I wrote but rather continue your meritless accusations.
Pull up the post and show everyone.

Whatever you say bro. Everyone can make a judgment on what you meant for themselves. It really seems like you saying what i think. You can post hyefighter2 posts yourself. Who am i your secretary? Im sure if anyone really wanted to they would be capable of looking it up themselves.

[Artashes]

Re: Prospects of a Kurdish state and what it means for Armenia

Here bud, let me put it into context for you since you're having a hard time.

Hyefighter2 posts #20779


And you follow up that post with post #20787

You talk about all the crimes the Kurds commited and then you end off your post with


Again you are deffending hyefighter2 post #20779 which is reffering to our artillery creating a Kurdish genocide, and you go on to say in essence our artillery creating a Kurdish genocide isn't genocide but justice... LOL! Im not putting words in your mouth you are. Proofs in the pudding. However you'd like to justify it a genocide is a genocide.

Jerk jerk jerk jerk LOL please.

The destying of the graves is some f'ed up stuff but again can you show me how it works in your head that all the kurds have to be punished for the crimes of some. How manny people dose it take to destroy however many cemeteries they have? 5 million? 10 million 20 million? Are they all guilty of the crime? All 20 million? Its disgusting dont get me wrong but im not gona look at an entire race all crooked because there are f'ed up people amidts them. So your saying every cemetery has been destroyed?

You have taken my post and misrepresented what I said.
In hyefighters post, I respond by saying ..… no Armenian seeks genocide and I tell him his choice of words is bad.
You then take one of my last sentences as if I responded with that sentence in the beginning of post.
My sentence of ... If we go in there and kill any ... Is not genocide but justice , has nothing to do with advocating genocide.
You clearly are not understanding my post or refuse to understand.
Again you use same argument that not all kurds but only some. The destruction of graveyards by some kurds is supported by community ... The destructors come from those communities, the same as the kurd fighter in west Armenia is really supported by those communities or they could not operate.
You still rearainge my words to suit your argument and distort what I said.
Pull my post and hyefighters post up so everyone can see.
You are clearly not comprehending what I wrote but rather continue your meritless accusations.
Pull up the post and show everyone.