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  • Re: Regional geopolitics

    Originally posted by Artashes View Post
    The post above by pj Crowley , former secretary of state for USA , is loaded with propaganda.///business.
    Propaganda, of course it is.
    The man is doing his job.
    Yet it is interesting, and deserves read.

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    • Re: Regional geopolitics

      Originally posted by Artashes View Post
      The post above by pj Crowley , former secretary of state for USA , is loaded with propaganda.
      USA & cohorts have instigated, exacerbated, fomented, & fueled this heartless distraction and accompanying mass murder & exodus of Syria.
      USA announces in last few days they have trained and armed 57 fighters in turcee and sent them across border into Syria with 12 four wheel drive vehicles that have machine guns mounted on them to fight Isis or isil or rag head fanatics or whatever scam etc.
      57 fighters ????????? That's gotta have the goat fkrs scared. Their probably throwing down their weapons now and running back to Pakistan in mass.
      The USA + Europe + Arab monarchs + Israel , can't beat Isis ??????
      ------- they created Isis --------
      Isis got out of hand and made things as they are, thanks to USA + cohorts destabilization program. Or is that pogram ?
      Looks to me, Russia is calling their fraud.
      I think the Russians are going to take care of business.
      Originally posted by Vrej1915 View Post
      Propaganda, of course it is.
      The man is doing his job.
      Yet it is interesting, and deserves read.
      Sorry but I disagree.
      Lies aren't interesting.
      If it deserves a read, it's only to ascertain that the truth has been grossly twisted to suit the west's destabilization pogram.
      Read that as murder pogram. All to accomplish west desire.
      No merit , no decency, no compassion.
      What part did you find that deserves to be read?
      HARK

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      • Re: Regional geopolitics

        Originally posted by Artashes View Post
        Sorry but I disagree.
        Lies aren't interesting.
        If it deserves a read, it's only to ascertain that the truth has been grossly twisted to suit the west's destabilization pogram.
        Read that as murder pogram. All to accomplish west desire.
        No merit , no decency, no compassion.
        What part did you find that deserves to be read?
        The part that was highlighted in red.

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        • Re: Regional geopolitics

          Originally posted by Vrej1915 View Post
          Propaganda, of course it is.
          You seem to have got that bit right.
          I hope you also understand why powers to be resort to propaganda.
          I will give you couple of hints,

          its directed to people who cannot think for themselves and

          who cannot distinguish between truth and falsehood.

          Originally posted by Vrej1915 View Post
          The man is doing his job.
          Its called bullsh.itting

          Originally posted by Vrej1915 View Post
          Yet it is interesting, and deserves read.
          Oh ye, is it to improve your bullshi.tting?

          .
          Politics is not about the pursuit of morality nor what's right or wrong
          Its about self interest at personal and national level often at odds with the above.
          Great politicians pursue the National interest and small politicians personal interests

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          • Re: Regional geopolitics

            I called bs regarding Vrej1915 long ago and people are finely realizing what he is. I am now noticing some telling changes in this character which lead me to believe that Vrej1915 is not one person. If you observe his earlier writings and compare them to what he writes now you will notice several drastic changes. His English has vastly improved, his eastern Armenian has also vastly improved. He has gone from mainly using the western dialect to mostly eastern dialect. He is also much more aware of Armenian life in Armenia then he was before. Generally this character just reposts bs propaganda heavily favoring western views and you would not notice his character nor the changes in it if people like me did not continually call him out on his brain washing and forced him to respond. I think that whoever is paying this guy would have achieved his/her goals better by sending aid to Syrian refugees in Armenia instead of this harmful spreading of lies. What a big waste of resources and time..so sad.
            Hayastan or Bust.

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            • Re: Regional geopolitics

              Russian build-up in Syria puts Israel on the back foot
              By M.K. Bhadrakumar
              September 22, 2015


              There is a saying, 'misfortunes never come singly'. That must have
              been the thought on Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netayahu's mind as
              he headed for Moscow Monday on what the Russians described as a 3-hour
              "short working visit"--a call on President Vladimir Putin at his
              residence in city suburbs for what a top Kremlin official forecast
              would be "a business and frank conversation" (read plain-speaking),
              and back to the airport on the return journey. We don't know whether
              Putin hosted a lunch for 'Bibi'.

              The Russian military build-up in Syria comes as a big setback to
              Netanyahu's regional policies. And it comes immediately after the
              spectacular defeat he suffered in the campaign to kill the Iran
              nuclear deal.

              In the normal course, the Syrian developments should have prompted
              Netanyahu to huddle together with the American president, but the
              White House has earmarked a slot for the Israeli leader in November.
              The Israel-US relations are in visible difficulty, and on top of it
              now, a cloud of uncertainty has appeared over Israel-Russia ties as
              well. It is a moment of reckoning for Israeli diplomacy.

              Netanyahu's office had said he would discuss with Putin "the
              stationing of Russian forces in Syria¦ (and) will present the threats
              posed to Israel as a result of the increased flow of advanced war
              material to the Syrian arena and the transfer of deadly weapons to
              Hezbollah and other terror organizations".

              But the Kremlin had entirely different ideas. A statement in Moscow
              said, "Urgent issues of bilateral cooperation and the international
              agenda are scheduled to be discussed. In particular, the sides are
              expected to exchange opinions on the issue of the Middle East peace
              process and the fight against the global terrorist threat."

              Surely, Russians knew Palestine issue was last thing on Netanyahu's
              order of priority, but they gently let it be known to the Israeli side
              beforehand that Moscow's military intervention in Syria to help the
              government fight the terrorist groups no matter what it takes is a
              well-thought out policy decision that was not open to negotiation.

              Curiously, on the eve of Netanyahu's departure for Moscow, Russian
              news agency carried a curtain raiser entitled What Does Netanyahu's
              Blitz Visit to Moscow Aim to Accomplish? And it said among other
              things that Moscow does not regard the Hezbollah as a terrorist
              organization but that the Lebanese militant group is "assisting the
              Syrian military in its war against terror groups¦ including Jabhat
              al-Nusra and ISIL".

              The commentary speculated that Netanyahu's real purpose would be: to
              fathom the Russian intentions in Syria; to find out additional details
              about the Russian deployment; to dissuade Russia from giving advanced
              weaponry such as S-300 and S-400 missiles to Syria; and, to
              "coordinate" with Moscow so that no military clashes took place
              between the two countries on Syrian soil. (Israeli chief of staff Gen.
              Gadi Eizenkot accompanied Netanyahu to Moscow).

              The Russian accounts of the conversation between Putin and Netanyahu
              on Monday freely acknowledged that the two countries disagreed on
              Syria. Netanyahu was quoted as saying to Putin that he had come to
              Moscow "to explain our position and do everything so there are no
              misunderstandings of our region or yours". It was a subtle reference
              to Israel's activities in Ukraine directed against Russian interests.

              But it is unlikely that Moscow is even remotely contemplating a
              trade-off with Israel over Ukraine, where tensions are easing, thanks
              to growing proximity between Russia and the West. Looking back, was it
              really necessary for Israel to have jumped into the Ukrainian cauldron
              and caused annoyance to Moscow, without due consideration of
              consequences?

              The impression conveyed by the Russian accounts is that Putin
              patiently heard out Netanyahu and showed "understanding" for Israel's
              security concerns, but did not make any promises--except of course
              that Russian actions in Syria will be "very responsible" (as they have
              always been) and that the Israeli fears of a "second front" in the
              Golan Heights are far-fetched, because the Syrian government forces
              have their hands full and have no intentions to start a war with
              Israel.

              Without doubt, Israel's dealings with the al-Qaeda affiliates
              operating in Syria are known to Moscow. In a series of reports to the
              UN Security Council, the United Nations Disengagement Observer Force
              documented numerous instances of Israeli military's dealings with the
              radical Islamist groups on the Israeli-Syrian border of the Golan
              Heights.

              Putin said last week, "We must put aside geopolitical ambitions,
              abandon the so-called double standards, the policy of direct or
              indirect use of certain terrorist groups for opportunistic purposes,
              including changes of government and regimes disliked by someone."

              The description fits Israel's role in Syria rather aptly, and it
              stands to reason that Israel's nexus with the radical Islamist groups
              in Syria will become--if it hasn't already--a major element in the
              Russian policy calculus in the coming period.

              No doubt, the Russian-Israeli relations are set to enter a complicated
              period. Russia, especially Putin, tried hard to keep the relations on
              an even keel, but the contradictions over Syria cannot be pushed under
              the carpet. In the final analysis, it all depends on what the scope of
              the Russian build-up in Syria is going to be in the coming weeks and
              months.

              Conceivably, Israel will have to take certain difficult decisions.
              Syria's open skies may not remain defenceless for much longer and the
              country may not present itself as a hunting ground for Israeli jets
              attacking targets with impunity. This is one thing.

              Second, if Russia puts 'boots on the ground' in Syria at some
              stage--something that cannot entirely be ruled out--Israel faces a
              power dynamic in its neighborhood that has no precedents in all of its
              history. Simply put, a far superior power has arrived in the immediate
              neighborhood and life cannot go on as before.

              Third, it cannot be ruled out that the Syrian government forces in
              coordination with the Hezbollah and other Shi'ite militia will make
              attempts at some point to reclaim the areas adjacent to the Golan
              Heights which have been under the control of the Israel-friendly
              al-Qaeda groups. If that happens, the security implications are going
              to be profound for Israel.

              But then, it all depends on the peace process in Syria that is set to
              begin and the sort of transition that may take place. Russia is
              neither likely to intervene with Iran or the Hezbollah as regards
              their activities in the Golan Heights area nor is it going to boost
              the Hezbollah's capabilities.

              But it stands to reason, though, that neither Iran nor Hezbollah is
              spoiling for a fight with Israel. On the other hand, Russia and Iran
              have coordinated their moves in Syria so far and Russia also has a
              line open to the Hezbollah. Therefore, taking into account the
              totality of the emergent Russian approach on Syria--and its dominant
              political and diplomatic thrust--Moscow can be expected to restrain
              the protagonists from exacerbating tensions with Israel.

              Fourth, the Russian presence in Syria and the Russian-Iranian axis
              virtually put a full stop to any Israeli dreams of having a voice at
              the high table as regards the future of Syria. A fragmentation of
              Syria might be in the Israeli interests but the Russian intervention
              aims at preserving Syria's unity and territorial integrity--and there
              is also an international consensus on that score. Put differently,
              Israel needs to learn to live with the Syrian neighbor it gets.
              Geography and politics cannot be wished away.

              Israel would have hoped that there will be a stand-off between the
              West and Russia over the latter's military build-up in Syria. But on
              the contrary, the West is pondering over the terms under which a
              constructive engagement with Russia becomes possible so as to bring
              about a transition in Syria very soon.

              Quite obviously, the West is no longer insisting on President Bashar
              al-Assad stepping down later today as a precondition for the
              transition. Equally, the West has welcomed the Russian intention to
              join the war against the Islamic State.

              What Israel probably overlooked in all this is that the Russian
              build-up in Syria has taken place against the backdrop of the massive
              refugee crisis that is threatening European security. Moscow correctly
              judged the shift in Europe's priorities today and in diplomacy timing
              is always the essence of the matter. In sum, Moscow resorted to
              coercive diplomacy and its military dimension should not be
              exaggerated out of proportions.

              Thus, Europe is nudging the US and Russia to strengthen the fight
              against the IS and on a parallel track to work together to kick-start
              a peace process in Syria. Clearly, the centrality of Russia (and Iran)
              has been conceded by the West--and openly acknowledged even by the
              US--in the search for a Syrian settlement.

              Over and above, Israel should expect that a US-Iranian dialogue on
              Syria will commence next week in New York on the sidelines of the UN
              General Assembly session as part of the intensifying efforts to bring
              about a transition in Syria.


              http://atimes.com/2015/09/russian-bu...the-back-foot/
              Hayastan or Bust.

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              • Re: Regional geopolitics

                Originally posted by londontsi View Post
                You seem to have got that bit right.
                I hope you also understand why pow
                Oh ye, is it to improve your bullshi.tting?

                .
                Sorry my dear,
                but for now you seem to me a pretty good brainwashed "bul. xxxx "retailer, quoting yourself.
                Remember your certitudes concerning arms supply to Israeli enemies by the US???
                Please have the kindness to accept your error, or else have the wiseness to think twice before giving lessons of brainwashed....

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                • Re: Regional geopolitics

                  Originally posted by Vrej1915 View Post
                  Sorry my dear,
                  but for now you seem to me a pretty good brainwashed "bul. xxxx "retailer, quoting yourself.
                  Remember your certitudes concerning arms supply to Israeli enemies by the US???
                  Please have the kindness to accept your error, or else have the wiseness to think twice before giving lessons of brainwashed....
                  If you go through my postings and read carefully you will find my OPINION.

                  The fact that you do not accept or understand, you will have to re-read them.

                  Hint when a "superpower" has two conflicting clients it will do everything to hold on to both by
                  Keep the tension high, arming them but do not allowing a war.

                  Precise amount of weapons is irrelevant.
                  Politics is not about the pursuit of morality nor what's right or wrong
                  Its about self interest at personal and national level often at odds with the above.
                  Great politicians pursue the National interest and small politicians personal interests

                  Comment


                  • Re: Regional geopolitics

                    Originally posted by Vrej1915 View Post
                    Propaganda, of course it is.
                    The man is doing his job.
                    Yet it is interesting, and deserves read.

                    Actually you yourself are doing your job by publishing western propaganda mr Vrej.
                    If not commented by Artashes, you'd probably think that one more hit the mark.
                    Last edited by Hakob; 09-23-2015, 10:54 AM.

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                    • Re: Regional geopolitics

                      Originally posted by londontsi View Post
                      If you go through my postings and read carefully you will find my OPINION.

                      The fact that you do not accept or understand, you will have to re-read them.

                      Hint when a "superpower" has two conflicting clients it will do everything to hold on to both by
                      Keep the tension high, arming them but do not allowing a war.

                      Precise amount of weapons is irrelevant.
                      My Dear,
                      Fist I did NOT ASK YOUR OPINION.
                      I asked you FACTS, proving your assertions.

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