Western-financed Armenian "human rights activists" (and their anti-Armenian policy)

[Serjik]

Re: Western-financed Armenian "human rights activists" (and their anti-Armenian polic

Bro, this is the MOST powerful thing I saw anybody say. It makes total sense to me. I am tired of the constant badmouthing and the nasty gossip about Armenia, its as if its the worst place on earth but its not as you and I know it. I know people who dont even want to visit Armenia because they hear how bad it is there and these people go to Mexico because its so much safer than in Armenia LOL I am also tired of too much American style bullxxxx and English in Armenia. Armos need to concentrate on Russia, Iran and the Europe.

That's not the way forward. Those things are logical into state-building, and are happening now. The process of evolution in Armenia has been continuing on a steady pace, and Armenia is by far the most stable and democratic country with the largest opposition in the Caucasus. Taxes, governance, legal system, fight against corruption are being tackled.

The point is that easily more than half of the media in Armenia are sponsored by foreign countries, and their aim is to find everything that is a bit negative related to Armenia and the Armenian state, and exploit it to raise the pessimism and negativism in Armenia. Besides this, their aim is also to destroy everything that had a good reputation in Armenia, for example the Armenian army. The propaganda negative anti-Armenian pessimist waged against Armenians is immense, and a lot of Armenians contribute in this without their own knowledge.

They are being brainwashed into believing that Armenia can skip evolution, if Armenia cut's ties with Russia and orientate itself towards the West, Armenia will be a paradise within two days, and that the West will always help Armenia, economically, politically and military. It's a big lie, which the masses easily believe, as the propaganda has been going on for a decade now. This is one of the biggest dangers facing our country today.

Today, the biased media and NGO's have free play, they can do whatever they want. There aren't any other media or institutions to counter their propaganda and to counter the pessimistic flow of information to demoralize Armenians. They know Armenians are emotional and are not nationalistic, thus they can easily attack our whole army, with almost no resistence from the Armenian society, for they know, we are not Turks, and we will happily aid into destroying our own-country.

Today, most Armenians would happily contribute into the negative stream of information and pessimism, would rather talk bad about our country, than to say something good. This is the point we have reached. Collective destructionism.

The Turks, when Turkey was still a dictatorial desert, came to Europe, and never complained and said anything bad about their country. They did not assimilate, used Europe, and sent all their money to Turkey, built houses, made investments (even though there was MASSIVE corruption), and see what Turkey has become now. Armenians coming to Europe, hate Armenia, tell everyone how bad our country is, tell other Armenians especially not to go to Armenia, never to try anything in Armenia, and to spread the word to the whole world that Armenia sucks, is corrupt, etc.

And to their children growing up, they cut off their hopes, and also raise them into anti-Armenian Armenians, even though most Armenians have not been in Armenia, 90% of the youth hates it, without seeing it, because Armenians like to be negative and pessimist, and don't understand they actually destroy our future with this. All this also has to do with the massive, massive anti-Armenian propaganda of today. Hell, have you ever been on a table with Armenians in general? The only thing they are doing is trying to find everything that is a bit negative about Armenia and say how sh*t Armenia is, so they can feel good and justify why they are not living in Armenia and instead are living in a foreign country, and why their children are married to foreigners and have assimilated.

The little part of Armenia that is remaning today, is because of the extremely small minority of Armenians who did care about their country.

If we don't turn collective destructionism (xxxx Armenia, it's a sh*t country, corrupt, let's leave and spread the word how bad it is) into collective state-building (indeed, there are many problems in Armenia, but it's a new republic, it's our country and the little part that is left to Armenians, and it needs evolution, let's help to fight the corruption, let's help in the state-building, let's invest Armenia, how hard it may be, so we can create an Armenia all Armenians dream of), the future of Armenia will look very grim.

[Mos]

Re: Western-financed Armenian "human rights activists" (and their anti-Armenian polic

That's not the way forward. Those things are logical into state-building, and are happening now. The process of evolution in Armenia has been continuing on a steady pace, and Armenia is by far the most stable and democratic country with the largest opposition in the Caucasus. Taxes, governance, legal system, fight against corruption are being tackled.

The point is that easily more than half of the media in Armenia are sponsored by foreign countries, and their aim is to find everything that is a bit negative related to Armenia and the Armenian state, and exploit it to raise the pessimism and negativism in Armenia. Besides this, their aim is also to destroy everything that had a good reputation in Armenia, for example the Armenian army. The propaganda negative anti-Armenian pessimist waged against Armenians is immense, and a lot of Armenians contribute in this without their own knowledge.

They are being brainwashed into believing that Armenia can skip evolution, if Armenia cut's ties with Russia and orientate itself towards the West, Armenia will be a paradise within two days, and that the West will always help Armenia, economically, politically and military. It's a big lie, which the masses easily believe, as the propaganda has been going on for a decade now. This is one of the biggest dangers facing our country today.

Today, the biased media and NGO's have free play, they can do whatever they want. There aren't any other media or institutions to counter their propaganda and to counter the pessimistic flow of information to demoralize Armenians. They know Armenians are emotional and are not nationalistic, thus they can easily attack our whole army, with almost no resistence from the Armenian society, for they know, we are not Turks, and we will happily aid into destroying our own-country.

Today, most Armenians would happily contribute into the negative stream of information and pessimism, would rather talk bad about our country, than to say something good. This is the point we have reached. Collective destructionism.

The Turks, when Turkey was still a dictatorial desert, came to Europe, and never complained and said anything bad about their country. They did not assimilate, used Europe, and sent all their money to Turkey, built houses, made investments (even though there was MASSIVE corruption), and see what Turkey has become now. Armenians coming to Europe, hate Armenia, tell everyone how bad our country is, tell other Armenians especially not to go to Armenia, never to try anything in Armenia, and to spread the word to the whole world that Armenia sucks, is corrupt, etc.

And to their children growing up, they cut off their hopes, and also raise them into anti-Armenian Armenians, even though most Armenians have not been in Armenia, 90% of the youth hates it, without seeing it, because Armenians like to be negative and pessimist, and don't understand they actually destroy our future with this. All this also has to do with the massive, massive anti-Armenian propaganda of today. Hell, have you ever been on a table with Armenians in general? The only thing they are doing is trying to find everything that is a bit negative about Armenia and say how sh*t Armenia is, so they can feel good and justify why they are not living in Armenia and instead are living in a foreign country, and why their children are married to foreigners and have assimilated.

The little part of Armenia that is remaning today, is because of the extremely small minority of Armenians who did care about their country.

If we don't turn collective destructionism (xxxx Armenia, it's a sh*t country, corrupt, let's leave and spread the word how bad it is) into collective state-building (indeed, there are many problems in Armenia, but it's a new republic, it's our country and the little part that is left to Armenians, and it needs evolution, let's help to fight the corruption, let's help in the state-building, let's invest Armenia, how hard it may be, so we can create an Armenia all Armenians dream of), the future of Armenia will look very grim.

You make some good points. I think there is this habit of always saying how bad Armenia is and highlighting all its flaws, maybe it's a bit of a cultural thing, but we should, especially in foreign lands, emphasis the good points of our country not always degrade it. We need better image control of our country within our own people. Georgia had revolution, we have evolution. Indeed, under Sargsyan things have been improving, better governance, less corruption, more education and diaspora programs. It's going to right direction. In my view, government has to work on the demographic situation as well, which mean passing laws regarding abortion.

The Turks are much more valuable to Europe than us. They are much more valuable to any power, let's not fool ourselves. If the choice is between us and Turkey, it will be Turkey, because you can get more out of them then us.

[Mos]

Re: Western-financed Armenian "human rights activists" (and their anti-Armenian polic

These CIA douches wont rule armenia again. Even if by some magical power they would, they'll be taken care of like in 1999. Armenia is not Georgia.

I wouldn't say CIA ever ruled Armenia. Even during Levon, Armenia was a under the Russian sphere, just not as much as under Kocharyan/Sargsyan.

[londontsi]

Re: Western-financed Armenian "human rights activists" (and their anti-Armenian polic

Never forget vermin thrive and multiply in the right (suitable ) environment.

The best way to kill off the vermin is to deprive them of the environment.

I think the way forward is,

Fight corruption by the Government (from within),
Dilute the role of the oligarchs in the economy,
Strengthen the functioning of the legal system,
Continuously develop and strengthen good governance,
Introduce laws and taxation for a balanced economy,
Encourage a significant layer of middle class,

Allowing opportunities for the people to be rewarded, develop and participate in the strengthening of the economy.

This would kill off opportunities of the blood suckers of the nation.

Pseudo patriots get very touchy when they hear stuff like that.

[londontsi]

Re: Western-financed Armenian "human rights activists" (and their anti-Armenian polic

x2..

That is the way of the monkey, imitate the guy opposite you.

... shows the level of your intellect.

....

[Lernakan]

Re: Western-financed Armenian "human rights activists" (and their anti-Armenian polic

and londontsi u can fuk off. None of your comments is logical. And great responses from tigranakert as always.

x2..

[londontsi]

Re: Western-financed Armenian "human rights activists" (and their anti-Armenian polic

londontsi ...... none of your comments is logical.

If that is the case then you should have had many points that you disagree with me.
That is fine by me.


Considering that only comment you could come up with is .....

..... and londontsi u can fuk off.

........ shows the level of your intellect.

[retro]

Re: Western-financed Armenian "human rights activists" (and their anti-Armenian polic

Haysip

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Venezuela bringing reserves of gold home

President Hugo Chavez's Government began repatriating Venezuela's gold reserves from European banks yesterday as the first shipment arrived on a flight from Paris.

Troops guarded the shipment in a caravan of at least five armoured vehicles that carried the gold to the Central Bank in Caracas.

A group of government supporters cheered and waved flags as the caravan passed. Soldiers held their rifles at the ready as the vehicles sped past. Two light tanks escorted the shipment. Chavez announced in August that his Government would retrieve more than 211 tonnes of gold held in US and European banks.

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/news...ectid=10768969

[haysip]

Re: Western-financed Armenian "human rights activists" (and their anti-Armenian polic

just look at what Chavezof Venezuela is doing today. he is nationalizing all the country's media today. at the same time nationalizing all the foreign interests...
wtf r we doing? singing english songs on Armenia TV and Shant? why do they even think singing in English is cool?
and londontsi u can fuk off. none of your comments is logical. And great responses from Tigranakert as always.

[Mos]

Re: Western-financed Armenian "human rights activists" (and their anti-Armenian polic

Everybody's out for their own interests. Let's not fool ourselves. In today's world there's little room for idealogical considerations, Realpolitik is the main method in use. Ideology is only used to soften and mask the Realpolitik and to grab emotional support of peoples. That is why we should always question all our relationships and approach all our relationships in this manner. We have to be critical thinkers and also put our selves in the shoes of our allies, friends, and enemies.