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  • haysip
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    From today's viewpoint, IMO Singapore has the best Economic Political system. Its a semi-capitalistic system thats working great for them so far. They have no natural resources so they are concentrating their economy on chemicals and electronics. Their corruption is N/A and their unemployment is only 2.2%. Adding to that their GDP is always rising. Their only difference to us is that they have sea access and the port that supports them but if we follow their ideology, I think we can grow a lot faster than them.

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  • londontsi
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    I have no doubt foreign paid activists play a negative role in society because they serve foreign interests.

    I think they should not only be registered but also there should be transparency about how much funding they
    are receiving and from what “international organisations” or foreign governments .

    There should also be limitations of funding they receive so as not to dominate civil society activism allowing room
    for local “forces” to be established representing and fighting for the people.

    Democracy should be given space to develop at its own pace rather than “imposed” which could serve ulterior motives.

    Limitation on the number of such organisation should also exist within the country.



    This would only have any meaningful purpose if in parallel action is taken to apply rules and standards of civil society within the country.

    The law should be applied to all layers of society. Democracy cannot function without it.
    This is paramount, without this there will always be “room and need” for external forces and interests, allowing them to gain a foothold.

    In “civilised“ countries criminal records register is available to the public for general vetting purposes.
    Why not also have a similar record for public officials who have broken the law or abused public trust.

    An individual with criminal record would not be able to work in a bank or many other organisations.
    Why shouldn't a government official who has a record of abusing his power/position not be treated similarly.

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  • Tigranakert
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    I have been doing some research and have found some useful things we can learn from Western countries. Myself being a staunch supporter of “freedom” and “democracy” as one reads in theory, I am still aware that the US and other Western countries massively violate the things they presumably stand for, such as freedom of assembly, freedom of speech, freedom of movement, and democratic elections. The West has hijacked the democratic movement for their own personal benefit and interests. Therefore, we should be very cautious of movements funded by foreign countries (largely by the West) as they are serving a special purpose, and can even work against Armenian interests, which should be countered effectively by our side.

    One such legislation Armenia has to introduce (which is also being applied in Western countries, so all the brainwashed pro-Western people will surely approve it) is one that will require people and organizations that are under foreign control to register with the Department of Justice as they are acting on behalf of foreign interests. For example, NGO’s that receive funding from a “foreign political entity” would have to register with the Political Party Register and declare in all public appearances that they represent an organization that receives funding from such an entity. This will increase the transparency regarding possible funding from foreign states for different kinds of organizations. No organization in Armenia should be allowed to receive money from a foreign political entity unless it registers with the Political Party Register and each time the organization receives funding from a foreign country, it would inform the Department of Justice and provide details regarding the identity of the donor, the sum donated, its purpose, and the commitments made by the recipients to the donors.

    (We should model it after the U.S. Foreign Agent Registration Act).

    We should build an Armenia all Armenians dream of, and not a fake-defective copy of a "Western" model as we see in Georgia today, which only serves the interests of the US and not of the Georgian people. We should support Armenian civil rights movements not funded by foreign countries (who are hijacking their true aims and misusing it to cause harm to Armenia) and effectively counter the propaganda and information warfare being waged against our own people.
    Last edited by Tigranakert; 11-29-2011, 01:02 PM.

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  • londontsi
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    Maybe this where we get our lessons in democracy.




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  • bell-the-cat
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    Originally posted by londontsi View Post
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    The peoples representatives expressing the wishes of the people.

    Are they so blatant about it because they are too stupid to know they are being filmed? Or do they just not care, because they know nobody will ever do anything about it (i.e. they are expressing the wishes of the people, the people who want to continue to live as powerless slaves).
    Last edited by bell-the-cat; 11-29-2011, 09:23 AM.

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  • londontsi
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    The peoples representatives expressing the wishes of the people.



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  • Mos
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    Originally posted by londontsi View Post
    I am referring to laws that are in the statute book.
    Laws of the Country, laws which are in “force” but which are not applied because some elements of society think they are above the law..

    Examples,

    Anti-monopolistic laws,
    Laws the members of Parliament must meet to be elected, (conflict of interest etc)
    Parliament attendance rules,
    Foreign language advertisements on TV

    etc etc

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    A major problem lies in the applying of such laws to the big businessmen/oligarchs who are able to use their resources to go above the law. Breaking some of the oligarchic atmosphere is a must for Armenian success. We need more power to the people!

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  • londontsi
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    Originally posted by Mos View Post
    Which laws in particular are you referring to? Governance in Armenia is not flawless, obviously, we are a young and growing republic, even in established Western European republics you will see shortfalls in governance. We must look at everything in context, of course it doesn't give us an excuse not to improve such governance.
    I am referring to laws that are in the statute book.
    Laws of the Country, laws which are in “force” but which are not applied because some elements of society think they are above the law..

    Examples,

    Anti-monopolistic laws,
    Laws the members of Parliament must meet to be elected, (conflict of interest etc)
    Parliament attendance rules,
    Foreign language advertisements on TV

    etc etc

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  • Mos
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    Originally posted by londontsi View Post
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    Before looking for ideas from the West or East or wherever ... or getting bogged down with words like democracy etc.

    How about applying OUR own laws which OUR Parliament made into law.
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    How about applying OUR Constitution which the founding fathers of the Republic wrote by those who are or aspire to be in power.

    If we did that as a nation we would be half ways there.


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    Which laws in particular are you referring to? Governance in Armenia is not flawless, obviously, we are a young and growing republic, even in established Western European republics you will see shortfalls in governance. We must look at everything in context, of course it doesn't give us an excuse not to improve such governance.

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  • londontsi
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    Before looking for ideas from the West or East or wherever ... or getting bogged down with words like democracy etc.

    How about applying OUR own laws which OUR Parliament made into law.
    and
    How about applying OUR Constitution which the founding fathers of the Republic wrote by those who are or aspire to be in power.

    If we did that as a nation we would be half ways there.


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