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  • londontsi
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    Originally posted by Tigranakert View Post
    They are a disgrace for real human rights activists. It's easy to see who are the biased ones, just look as to who funds them, if it's a foreign source, mostly it is because of a reason.
    Never forget vermin thrive and multiply in the right (suitable ) environment.

    The best way to kill off the vermin is to deprive them of the environment.

    I think the way forward is,

    Fight corruption by the Government (from within),
    Dilute the role of the oligarchs in the economy,
    Strengthen the functioning of the legal system,
    Continuously develop and strengthen good governance,
    Introduce laws and taxation for a balanced economy,
    Encourage a significant layer of middle class,

    Allowing opportunities for the people to be rewarded, develop and participate in the strengthening of the economy.

    Otherwise not only the UK but also the US and the Turks even the Pakistanis will want to have a say in our affairs.

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  • arakeretzig
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    These CIA douches wont rule armenia again. Even if by some magical power they would, they'll be taken care of like in 1999. Armenia is not Georgia.

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  • Tigranakert
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    Very good find londontsi. They even openly state that one has to lobby for the United Kingdom. In every country, also in Armenia, dozens of people attracted by the money will accept to be brainwashed and to work against the interest of the Armenian state.

    They are a disgrace for real human rights activists. It's easy to see who are the biased ones, just look as to who funds them, if it's a foreign source, mostly it is because of a reason.

    We should not forget that there are thousands of human rights activists in Armenia not funded by foreign countries who really care about human rights, and not about attacking important Armenian institutions to weaken our society and unity.

    Just as democracy, the word "human rights" has been kidnapped by the West and used as a effective tool for leverage.

    Fighting Words: HCA files slander suit against former MOD deputy minister


    Artur Sakunts (left), Vladimir Gasparyan

    The war of words over the non-combat death cases in the Armenian army between NGOs and the Ministry of Defense has entered battle in court. Helsinki Citizens’ Assembly Vanadzor Office filed a law suit against former deputy defense minister, currently chief of police Vladimir Gasparyan, demanding compensation for “damage to honor, dignity and business reputation”.

    As opposed to a recent trend of authorities and businessmen demanding millions in drams against news outlets for “slander and insult”, human rights activist Artur Sakunts, leading Helsinki Citizens’ Assembly Vanadzor Office (HCA), demands only 20 drams (about 5 cents) from Gasparyan -10 drams for damage to the fame of his organization and another 10 to the mothers who have lost their sons in the army and protest in front the government building every Thursday.

    In October, when three soldiers died within five days in non-combat conditions, NGOs and “Army in Reality” initiative group, held a series of large-scale protests in front of the government building, the Prosecutor General’s office, and the presidential residence. The protests were followed by a report on Public TV disparaging Sakunts and Levon Baghdasaryan, president of Gyumri-based Asparez press club, and concluded by interviews with Gasparyan.

    Sakunts’s complaint is based on two Gasparyan interviews; one to Zinuzh (“military force”) TV program, the other to Hraparak daily, which HCA Vanadzor office found insulting and containing slander. In Hraparak daily’s October 17 article titled “Who guzzles blood, let it turn against his child” Gasparyan, referring to the wave of protests against the death cases in the army, said that he could see “impertinence” in the organizers.
    In the newspaper interview Gasparyan referred to the Helsinki Organization members as “wimpy brats”.

    In his interview to Zinuzh, Gasparyan said: “How can a person’s heart ache for his country when s/he receives funding and salary from other countries. How can a person’s heart ache when s/he thinks: the louder and the more controversial the case, the better, because in that case we can make even more money. Those doing it are some creatures with no motherland, no land, no grace, only wanting to be subservient to others, bondsmen, with no sense of dignity.”

    Sakunts told ArmeniaNow that the court has not yet processed the complaint and usually does that within three working days. To ArmeniaNow’s question whether the court might refuse to start judicial proceedings, considering the fact that Gasparyan in his interviews did not mention names, Sakunts said that the court only takes into account whether the suit is filed properly or not.

    Ashot Melikyan, chairing the Committee for Protection of Freedom of Speech, told ArmeniaNow that “it is obvious and quite clear” that Gasparyan’s words were addressed to Sakunts, especially that the interviews followed the Public TV’s ill-famed reportage by Haylur [news wire]”.

    Melikyan thinks positively of the lawsuit in a sense that media representatives are not involved in this case.

    “This suit seems quite normal to me, when two sides have private reckonings with each other related to slander or insult, and media is not drawn into it,” says Melikyan.

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  • retro
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    Originally posted by londontsi View Post
    And this is how you prepare them.


    Whilst the British Council clearly has an agenda and you have to wonder just how many "human rights activists". They churn out of this little quisling factory.

    I suppose a year abroad and a free masters degree isn't entirely to be sniffed at.

    Who should apply?

    chevening q and a session (Crown copyright)Chevening Scholarships are for high calibre graduates with the personal, intellectual and interpersonal qualities necessary for leadership. Applicants should be:
    • Motivated to make a career that will take them to positions of leadership in their own country within ten years of their scholarship
    • Able to use their studies and experience in the UK to benefit themselves, their countries and the UK
    • Natural influencers and talented communicators, with energy and ambition
    • People who value networking and who can demonstrate the value of networks to their studies, and to bringing about change on a global level
    • Intelligent, with demonstrable academic potential
    • Strong characters with integrity, drive, and the ability to self manage and work independently




    They seemingly even take online applications!
    Last edited by retro; 11-25-2011, 04:11 AM.

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  • londontsi
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    And this is how you prepare them.





    Opportunity of one-year free education in Great Britain for Armenian students


    24 November, 2011

    YEREVAN, NOVEMBER 24, ARMENPRESS:

    The British Embassy Yerevan is offering Chevening Scholarships, funded by the Foreign and Commonwealth Office and administered by the British Council. Press service of the British Council told Armenpress that these cover the costs of study (including living expenses and international flights) in the United Kingdom for 12 months. They are awarded on a competitive basis for Master's degree programme in the fields of: conflict prevention and resolution; development of the public sector to meet EU and other international standards; strengthening free/unbiased media.

    Applicants must have the potential to rise to positions of leadership and influence. They will need to demonstrate that they possess the personal, intellectual and interpersonal attributes reflecting this potential. Although the scholars must meet the academic requirements for their courses of study, academic excellence is not the determining selection criterion for the scholarship. The criteria for suitability are: applicants should ideally be aged 25-35 but applications from all ages are welcome, should already hold a higher education diploma, hold a higher education diploma, should have at least two years work experience in their selected field of study, have an adequate standard of English, and should be committed to return to Armenia and contribute to the development of the country. All applications must be made on-line. Deadline for submitting applications is 23 January 2

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  • TomServo
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    The country needs an Enlightenment thinker before a twenty-first century human rights activist.

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  • haysip
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    and there is a whole list of chmards who can easily be listed next to that fool
    ԱՅՍՏԵՂ ԵՆ ԲՈԼՈՐ ԱՅՆ ՏԱԿԱՆՔՆԵՐԸ, ՈՎՔԵՐ ԻՐԵՆՑ ԱՄԵՆՕՐՅԱ «ԱԶԳԱՆՎԵՐ» ԳՈՐԾՈՒՆԵՈՒԹՅԱՄԲ ՊԱՌԱԿՏՈՒՄ ԵՆ ԱԶԳԸ ՀԱՅԵՐԻ ԿԱՄ ՉՀԱՅԵՐԻ, ՂԱՐԱԲԱՂՑԻՆԵՐԻ ԿԱՄ ՀԱՅԱՍՏԱՆՑԻՆԵՐԻ: ՃԱՆԱՉԵՆՔ ՆՐԱՆՑ ԱՆՈՒՆ ԱՌ ԱՆՈՒՆ:

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  • bell-the-cat
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    Originally posted by Mos View Post
    On another note, interestingly enough, I have heard from some people who have served that Yerevancis don't like serving in Karabakh is that the Karabakhtsi soldiers there don't like the Yerevanci conscripts and there is often tension.
    Maybe the Karabakhtsi soldiers just think that it won't be Azeri bullets that will loose them NK, it will be the pen of a Yerevan politician elected by those Yerevan conscripts.
    Last edited by bell-the-cat; 11-23-2011, 09:20 AM.

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  • retro
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    Originally posted by Tigranakert View Post
    The Armenian army is a reflection of the Armenian society, does he think that putting together 18-20 year old Armenian boys, giving them weapons and learning them to kill, such accidents will not happen? Of course he understands this, but his mission is something different: he wants to blame the whole Armenian army, he wants to give the whole institution a bad name, and by this he undermines the security of Armenia itself.

    The dirty little pig has to thank the Armenian army for it's professionalism, reforms and effectiveness, which is one of the reasons Azerbaijan does not dare to attack today.
    Although conscript armies are always problematic and most of the casualties, at the border or resulting from bullying are young inexperienced troops. The present culture of bullying and corruption is clearly very bad for morale and it needs to be stamped out.

    Whilst it's really not my place to say. If I where Armenia's Defense minister. I'd fire the head of military police, haul in the military brass and give them some kind of a ultimatum. As the Armenian state has a mandate to uphold the rule of law and the military are not a body to be handled with kid gloves.

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  • Mos
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    Of course such accidents are bound to happen unfortunately, but there should be full transparency when it comes to such incidents for the sake of the grieving parents and family. And if there is a person responsible for the death they have to be brought to justice. We can always improve the army without attacking it or our country.

    On another note, interestingly enough, I have heard from some people who have served that Yerevancis don't like serving in Karabakh is that the Karabakhtsi soldiers there don't like the Yerevanci conscripts and there is often tension. I also have a Karabakhtsi friend that told me a lot about serving on the front line and the incidents that happened on the border.

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