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Armenian Officer Axed By Azeri Colleague

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  • #21
    Originally posted by Baron Dants Alright....my dream for Armenia is that the kids will have a chance to go to school, the parents will have a chance to go to work, and they can spend their evenings and weekends together, having fun, like a family....not training for an attack by the azeris. And you still don't say who would provide the tanks and planes and choppers that we would most definitely need...
    -Well look at any capitalist nation, and you will find not all kids go to school because of fees. Not the case in socialism where everyone has the right to free education.
    -People are denied work, because the system does not provide jobs. Instead, labour is a resource which is turned on and off by the capitalists. Not so in socialism where the workers organise jobs for themselves democratically, and the wage you get is that of what labour you put in minus what goes to the state which is democratically controlled by the workers
    - This weekend nonsence, this doesnt happen under capitalism due to more pressure from work, and capitalists squeezing the workers. There used to be a time when shops in Europe were closed on Sundays, but not now, and people are forced to work to make the capitalists more profit.

    -As for training to attack Azeris, this wouldnt be the case, beacuse a) its defencive, b) a revolutionary army would be used to smash the Azeri ruling class (along with agitation inside azeri workers by azeri communists) and unite both working classes

    You know, I want Armenia to develop and prosper, not become the only playing field in the world for some marxist fantasies. Sure our army isn't flawless...but crime rates in the army HAVE been going down. Our job is to make it clean and efficient, so cases of bribery and beatings won't take place. But not caring about one of our own men who just got brutally hacked by an azeri soldier baffles me...
    - i find it insulting that you find my ideas a fantasy, when your idea of a nice capitalism have and are being proven incorrect this very second.
    - Remind me which NGO gives you the statistics that crime rates in the army have decreased
    - Care for the officer, yes, hes a loss to humanity, as a human being, but thats it, i dont care any more than that. Please remind me which tool of the state was hacking down on Armenian protestors last year after the election?


    When the USSR was taking shape, Armenia had devoted communists like Shahumyan yevayln who (it seems) really did believe about this whole brotherhood of the workers, while Azerbaidjan's most outstanding communist was Narimanov, who was clearly anti-Armenian. And throughout USSR's history, even with all that brotherhood bull, Azerbaidjan was still clearly anti-Armenian. And idealist Armenians (or in this case, traitors) like Boris Kevorkov actually joined their side.
    - Is this why Azeri SSR GAVE Kharabagh to Armenia but Armenia refused?

    Give that dream up! Azerbaidjan has always been more attached to the idea of Pan-Turkism than to anything else. They don't like us, and never have. That doesn't mean that we should start a war with them, only that we shouldn't even THINK about forming some sort of happy wonderland of a country where we'll all live happy together.
    - Where is your evidence of the Azeri nation wanting pan-turkism?
    The only people who stir this xxxx up is the Azeri ruling class, you know why? so the armenian worker (people like you) and the azeri worker deecrease their class consiousness and see each other as the enemy instead of the ruling class which exploits them.

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    • #22
      oh God

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      • #23
        Originally posted by dstyle oh God
        brilliant analysis, you really do bring up the standard of thsi forum

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        • #24
          Shahumyan, when the time comes, thanks to the god awful transition to nation-states, when a Turk will stand for Turks, an Azeri stand for Azeris, where will you stand? For Armenia or for your idealistic crusade?
          Achkerov kute.

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          • #25
            isnt that the case now with large portion of both countries?

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            • #26
              its not worth arguing to me. you have what you believe, and i have what i believe, i dont want to get in to a flame war again, its very childish.

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              • #27
                you are a fool. nothing more to say. dont even argue with him. you cannot set his priorities straight. he has his priorities already set up it is he himself who has to realize that and change his ways. no matter how much you try to convince him of what we believe he wont agree because he does not have the same goals and ideals as most Armenians do

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                • #28
                  ya what tigran said. man dikrans are smart lol

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                  • #29
                    Tigran, just because he disagree doesn't mean there should be no room for discussions. That is highly limiting yourself.
                    Achkerov kute.

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                    • #30
                      Hmm,
                      Tigran and co, your argument and values are completely non logical.

                      If you were half turk-half armenian, what do you do? you shoot 1 armenian, but balance it and shoot 1 turk so its fair?

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