Why Turkey will never be admitted into the European Union

[Lucin]

Re: Why Turkey will never be admitted into the European Union

Maybe the only good point about Sarkozy is that he is a nightmare for Turks but on the other hand, he needs to moderate his anti-Putin and anti-Iran stance.

[exfo]

Re: Why Turkey will never be admitted into the European Union

Maybe the only good point about Sarkozy is that he is a nightmare for Turks but on the other hand, he needs to moderate his anti-Putin and anti-Iran stance.

Lucin, you still could not get the point. WE DONT CARE SARKOZY OR EU, Capish? You can not feed at Iran good? Do you want me to send you some vitamins?

[exfo]

Re: Why Turkey will never be admitted into the European Union

Who's "we"? You are speaking on behalf of every single person in Turkey?

This is the last EU survey. %70 of Turkey population do not want to enter EU and %85 do not care about EU.

[Armenian]

Re: Why Turkey will never be admitted into the European Union

Maybe the only good point about Sarkozy is that he is a nightmare for Turks but on the other hand, he needs to moderate his anti-Putin and anti-Iran stance.

Bravo Lucin. In my opinion, those Armenians who are applauding Sarkozy's win in France are being somewhat shortsighted and naive.

Sarkozy's J-e-w-ish roots shape his outlook on life and his approach to politics. His seems to be very fond of the criminal "Neoconservative" Kabal running the show in Washington DC. His anti-Russian anti-Iranian sentiments are quite pronounced. There is also a danger that he might drag France into the bogus "War on Terror" as well. As a result, his political rhetoric and his foreign policy formulations may in the longterm be harmful to Armenia's interests.

So, don't be surprised if in the future Sarkozy "moderates" his anti-Turkish stance instead. Sarkozy or no Sarkozy, Turks would have never been admitted into Europe. Thus, in the big picture, Sarkoz'y win is a potential setback for European politics, not to mention Russian-Iranian-Armenian interests.

I hope I'm wrong. I guess only time will tell.

[Lucin]

Re: Why Turkey will never be admitted into the European Union

Bravo Lucin. In my opinion, those Armenians who are applauding Sarkozy's win in France are being somewhat shortsighted and naive.

Sarkozy's J-e-w-ish roots shape his outlook on life and his approach to politics. His seems to be very fond of the criminal "Neoconservative" Kabal running the show in Washington DC. His anti-Russian anti-Iranian sentiments are quite pronounced. There is also a danger that he might drag France into the bogus "War on Terror" as well. As a result, his political rhetoric and his foreign policy formulations may in the longterm be harmful to Armenia's interests.

So, don't be surprised if in the future Sarkozy "moderates" his anti-Turkish stance instead. Sarkozy or no Sarkozy, Turks would have never been admitted into Europe. Thus, in the big picture, Sarkoz'y win is a potential setback for European politics, not to mention Russian-Iranian-Armenian interests.

I hope I'm wrong. I guess only time will tell.

Chem Kartsum s’khalves, herates, havasarakhrvats motetsum unes. ( nakhagahakan teknatsu lines kez em @ntrelu, paymanov vor nakharar linem ) kani vor yerek nayum ei ir hartsazruyst@ anmijabes
nakhagah haytararveluts heto, arajin khntirnerits mek@ vor knnarkets franco-amerikyan harberutyunneri barelavumn er, vor@ hakasakan e tvum ( im achkis) ir ujegh haka-trkakan dirkoroshumneri het. Havanakan e vor da chezokatsvi apagayum (inchpes n’shetsir).
Franciakan kaghakakanutyun@ hatkapas verjin tarinerin, vorosh havsarakshrutyun er steghtsel, 'chezokatsnelov' anglo-hrya azdararutynner@...

Bayts,havastiatsats em vor Sarkozy-in nerkin bart khntirneri e handipelu, hatkapes 5 million arabneri het bakhumner teghi kunena ( inchpes antsyalum vor nerkin gortseri nakharar er)…

Ankakh ir dirkoroshumnerits, Sarkozy-in nakhagahi dirk u shnork chuni (artakin@, khosalu voj@ yev sharjumner@ nkati unem), yerkrort bush e darnalu...

[garod]

Re: Why Turkey will never be admitted into the European Union

I think Sarkozy will try to remove 68s spirit with neo liberal politics and face off big protests.Try to restrict strikes and solve the immigrant problems with tough politics and laws will cause big protests and he will have to be calm.On the other hand his views regarding Turkey brang warnings as of today for example Jose Manuel Barroso declared.There are lots of French company in Turkey and they will take his fever according to liberal ecenomy's necessities (For example Renault who will produce a new model in the factory which is located in Turkey and export the nearly 150 countries in the world.)

I am sure his chauvinist attitudes will force Turkey in good way.People will make most of things in the short time for shutting up his mouth so welcome to the Pyscho.

The comment that I read yesterday is so nice "A man who cannot manage his wife how can manage France". Ahahahah

[Siamanto]

Re: Why Turkey will never be admitted into the European Union

Մի՛ մտահոգուիք: Բնաւ կարելիութիւն չի կայ՝ Թուրքիոյ ընդունելութեան Եւրոպայի մէջ: Ինչպէ՞ս կ'ընդունուի Թուրքիան եթէ իր «ըսուած ազգը» գոյութիւն չ'ունի: Ի՞նչ թուրքեր: Իրականութիւնը՝ ամէն «թուրքերը» խառնուած են յոյներու, պարսիկներու, եւ ուրիշ արեւմտեան ասիական ազգերու հետ:

I never thought that TEMPORARILY SO CALLED Turkey would be part of the EU; but, in politics, there is no "Բնաւ."

It is true that I did not make it explicit enough, but it was less about their chances - i.e. reality and/or EU perspective - and more about their hopes - the *urkish perspective. Will Sarkozy make a blunt statement -and he's capable - soon enough to have a relative impact on the anticipated elections in TEMPORARILY SO CALLED Turkey - i.e. more *urks will throw the sponge - after fuming, as they usually do - and vote for the AKP?
I'd rather see that artificially created country shift towards Islam than Europe. It is true that it may, for some time, adversely affect the already precarious stability of the region but it seems as a precondition for the implosion - and dismantlement - of TEMPORARILY SO CALLED Turkey.



Note: I have chosen to auto censor the words "*urk," "*urkish" or *urkic" because it is commonly perceived as unpleasant and offending, evokes unpleasant emotions and imagery and is pregnant with immoral and evil connotations

[Siamanto]

Re: Why Turkey will never be admitted into the European Union

Siamanotthing, unlike you, we do not consider ourselves as European and %70 of Turkey do not want to your racist Europe anymore. You can keep continue to flatter Europeans to have their symphaty, but this is not valid for us. It is very simple for us.

The above sounds, at best, laughable considering that TEMPORARILY SO CALLED Turkey has been desperately begging for some recognition as a nation belonging to Europe - as if in need for affection, as if it translates a deep insecurity - while Europe constantly humiliated you, rejected you, ignored you, did "spit on your face" and consoled you with crumbs that helped you survive. But beggars like you are not proud.
I wonder why you did your best to look like docile and good students, during the last years? I wonder why Erdogan already expressed his concern today??? Of course, It's probably you don't care???
It's not that you don't care, it's that you don't have the choice.

It is very simple for us. If EU will give us money then I welcome EU, if no money no EU.

Of course, you are a nation of thieves, parasites and beggars.

You may have some emotional problems about your identity. When you look to a mirror you may see an Armenian, a Turk, a European, an Asian or only a middle eastern face girl or whatever, but, nobody care with you or Deveciyan or Sarkozy or any other racist. Just try to understand this. Actually my idea, do not care with Turks that much. Relax, take it easy. Take your pills.

Shouldn't you always "edulcorate" a post with jurkish cacophony?

This is the last EU survey. %70 of Turkey population do not want to enter EU and %85 do not care about EU.

Yet you continue to beg for an identity and the crumbs thrown at you. Yet you continue to dance to Europe's' tune and play the docile and good pupil. I guess that's the Central Asian beggar instinct!!!

[Էլիա]

Re: Why Turkey will never be admitted into the European Union

Either way, the EU wouldn't accept Turkey because of its bad government and atrocities. :P

[Siamanto]

Re: Why Turkey will never be admitted into the European Union

Maybe the only good point about Sarkozy is that he is a nightmare for Turks but on the other hand, he needs to moderate his anti-Putin and anti-Iran stance.

LOL Most of all, he needs to moderate his anti-humanity stance. He scares me, he scares a lot of people. He belongs to the Berlusconi, Blair, Bush family but, I hope that his new role will calm him down. For the record, Chirac - his mentor - who also scared us, calmed down after he became president. Also, his career is quite similar to that of Chirac.
I think that Sarkozy may make a lot of stupid - and "dangerous" - decisions unless the Socialists and the to-be-formed??? party of Bayrou do well enough during the coming legislative elections to contain Sarkozy.
Also, keep in mind that there will be a lot of constraints that may temper or contain him.

kani vor yerek nayum ei ir hartsazruyst@ anmijabes
nakhagah haytararveluts heto, arajin khntirnerits mek@ vor knnarkets franco-amerikyan harberutyunneri barelavumn er, vor@ hakasakan e tvum ( im achkis) ir ujegh haka-trkakan dirkoroshumneri het. Havanakan e vor da chezokatsvi apagayum (inchpes n’shetsir).

He's not know to be pro-Anglo-Saxon and did not wait to win the elections. In fact, not long ago, while officially visiting the White House, he criticized the French foreign policy in Iraq when only the French president is supposed make a public statement on the subject.
However, I don't think that it will have a noticeable impact - if any - on his anti-*urkish stance; let's keep in mind that he will have to take into consideration internal politics and the US have more important priorities and bigger fish to fry than *urks and will probably avoid any friction on the subject. This is politics and let's be realistic.

Franciakan kaghakakanutyun@ hatkapas verjin tarinerin, vorosh havsarakshrutyun er steghtsel, 'chezokatsnelov' anglo-hrya azdararutynner@...

That's my biggest fear. Again, let's keep in mind that he will not be operating in a vacuum and any abrupt discontinuity in French foreign policy may cause him a lot of headache. He will have to respect certain constraints and limits.

Bayts,havastiatsats em vor Sarkozy-in nerkin bart khntirneri e handipelu, hatkapes 5 million arabneri het bakhumner teghi kunena ( inchpes antsyalum vor nerkin gortseri nakharar er)…

Many may go to the streets protesting....not only the Arabs. He scares a lot of people. Let's hope that he will be contained.

By the way, there has already been two street protests - yesterday night and tonight - and clashes with the police.

Ankakh ir dirkoroshumnerits, Sarkozy-in nakhagahi dirk u shnork chuni (artakin@, khosalu voj@ yev sharjumner@ nkati unem), yerkrort bush e darnalu...

Yes, he is quite vulgar and ungraceful and many compared him to Bush....But he may not be allowed to turn into Bush because he will be operating in a different society - French - and within different structures - France/Europe - and different political partners.
Furthermore, the times are changing and the Berlusconi, Blair, Bush legacy is fading away.




Note: I have chosen to auto censor the words "*urk," "*urkish" or *urkic" because it is commonly perceived as unpleasant and offending, evokes unpleasant emotions and imagery and is pregnant with immoral and evil connotations