Armenian Georgian Relations

[georgia]

Re: Armenian Georgian Relations

turk is not my friend and turks never will be friends for georgians. we are using them because we need coridor in the Mediterranean sea and corridor in europa also there are 2 million muslim geogians in turkey and we want relationships with them.
so in 1991 in south ossetia were living 53 thousand ossetians buT in 2010 where were living only 13 thousand ossetians
and in abkhazeTi in 1991 were living 60 thousand apkhazians buT now where are living only 27 thousand abkhazians so the both territory soon will be under our jurisdiction
now in tbilisi are living also armenians and they love georgia and us georgians because we are generous people
so javakheti are living armenians but they want live in georgia and soon they will be speaking only on geogrian language and i know that now the armenian children in javakheti are speaking only in georgian lenguage, soon georgia will be very storng in economic.
so my hearty wishes from tbilisi, georgians and armenins are freands for ever!! xxxx russia

[Joseph]

Re: Armenian Georgian Relations

turk is not my friend and turks never will be friends for georgians. we are using them because we need coridor in the Mediterranean sea and corridor in europa also there are 2 million muslim geogians in turkey and we want relationships with them.
so in 1991 in south ossetia were living 53 thousand ossetians buT in 2010 where were living only 13 thousand ossetians
and in abkhazeTi in 1991 were living 60 thousand apkhazians buT now where are living only 27 thousand abkhazians so the both territory soon will be under our jurisdiction
now in tbilisi are living also armenians and they love georgia and us georgians because we are generous people
so javakheti are living armenians but they want live in georgia and soon they will be speaking only on geogrian language and i know that now the armenian children in javakheti are speaking only in georgian lenguage, soon georgia will be very storng in economic.
so my hearty wishes from tbilisi, georgians and armenins are freands for ever!! xxxx russia

Wrong. Those 2 million Muslim Georgians are now Turks. They are aligned with Turks first and foremost. You're either foolish or insane to think they are on your side, if they were, they would still be Christians and still speak Georgian. They by and large, do not.

Regarding Ossetia and Abkhazia, now that they are under very direct Russian supervision they are long gone. Too bad you guys originally elected a fascist like Gamsakhurdia after independence, things might have turned out differently.

Armenians in Georgia are routinely harassed in Tbilisi and elsewhere. Yes, I have been to Georgia and have experienced it and heard about it from my Armenian compatriots. The Armenians in Javakh are not being Georgianized although there are attempts from Georgian authorities. See you cannot make people like you when you are treating them with disdain. People are funny that way. I am part of a church charity and we have done some work for Armenians in Javakh. Georgian authorities have routinely tried to steal and confiscate money and supplies from us. Nice folks, those Georgians.

[Mos]

Re: Armenian Georgian Relations

Well Russia is our good friend, they have always been our protectors from the Turks, and the Armenia-Russia military alliance is very strong. We have good relations with Georgians of course because most of our trade comes through your lands. Saakashvili was in Armenia recently and talked about the Georgian-Armenian friendship and often there are state visits. However, despite all that, Georgia is very close to Azerbaijan and in my eyes closer to them than us which is of course a big problem.

Plus how you country kissed the ass of the most hated and stupid person throughout the world (George W Bush) and kissed NATO and US's ass so much, but then when there was the war with Russia they didn't help at all because they didn't want to anger Russia was pretty embarrassing and shows your government is really bad at foreign policy.

And also you call yourselves faithful Christians but your biggest allies and friends have been Muslims (especially Turks and Azeris), probably that's why so many georgians converted to Islam.

[georgia]

Re: Armenian Georgian Relations

Joseph- this two million muslim georgians are georgians... the premier of turkey muslim georgian but it doesnt mean... in georgia there is region adjaria and there are muslims so what? they are ordinary georgians so i am from gakheti and my grandfathers mom was armenian and i have question... mamulashvili, aivazashvili, afriashvili, shatirishvili, tumanishvili, meliqishvili this surnames have armenian roots?

[gegev]

Re: Armenian Georgian Relations

turk is not my friend and turks never will be friends for georgians. we are using them because we need coridor in the Mediterranean sea and corridor in europa also there are 2 million muslim geogians in turkey and we want relationships with them.
so in 1991 in south ossetia were living 53 thousand ossetians buT in 2010 where were living only 13 thousand ossetians
and in abkhazeTi in 1991 were living 60 thousand apkhazians buT now where are living only 27 thousand abkhazians so the both territory soon will be under our jurisdiction
now in tbilisi are living also armenians and they love georgia and us georgians because we are generous people
so javakheti are living armenians but they want live in georgia and soon they will be speaking only on geogrian language and i know that now the armenian children in javakheti are speaking only in georgian lenguage, soon georgia will be very storng in economic.
so my hearty wishes from tbilisi, georgians and armenins are freands for ever!! xxxx Russia :

Don’t worry much, there are a lot of people in the world, Russia who would dream to live in such beautiful places, like Abkhazia and Osetia. Your post will be very helpful for them at making choices, thanks. You are great politician!!! There are ants that would like act as Bears do.

And don’t forget that the other parts of Georgia populated by other nationalities will face the same faith if you don’t change your interracial policies radically.

I see there are a lot of questions asked in our posts that you can’t answer. I guess, learning would be the first priority for you in coming decades. By the way do you know who created your language alphabet? Do you want to use the language as a weapon against the Creator?

....i have question... mamulashvili, aivazashvili, afriashvili, shatirishvili, tumanishvili, meliqishvili this surnames have armenian roots?

Oh ... no the only root is shvili!!!!!!!!!
Melik, tuman, aivaz, etc. are not.

[georgia]

Re: Armenian Georgian Relations

oh i know this tale as though mesrop mashtots creaTed georgian alphabet (not language ) this is false, our alphabeT created the first king of georgia parnavaz in 4 century before Christ.
so if one day russia leave armenia one, what armenia will doing against turks and azers...? nothing because armenia is small country and armenia needs friends and if you will say again what georgia is enemy for armenia soon armenia will be alone against the muslim empire and this is bad because if armenia fell down for geogria this will be very bad...
so we need each other this is what i think...
gegev- what questions you have what i could not answer? i think what i have enough education for your questions

[Eddo211]

Re: Armenian Georgian Relations

turk is not my friend and turks never will be friends for georgians. we are using them because we need coridor in the Mediterranean sea and corridor in europa also there are 2 million muslim geogians in turkey and we want relationships with them.

Are you guys that naive or all of you are born just like your leader.....one of the reasons Turkey is getting closer to Russia is for the things you just mentioned. You think you are using the Turks? I don't think you understand how Turkish foreign policies work.

You say we friends? With friends like you guys who needs enemies. dumasses

[Yedtarts]

Re: Armenian Georgian Relations

Georgians are the biggest backstabbers ever and they can’t be trusted, before shaking hands with them you have to check your rearview mirrors, and after shaking hands you should count your fingers then check your watch and rings if there’re still there. But they are so stupid they think no one know for who they are.
And the biggest dumass is their president the western “Puppetshvili” or “Lapdogshvili”

[georgia]

Re: Armenian Georgian Relations

Eddo211- oh we are enemies? we must close the borders with armenia? dumass
so we are using usa and turkey and you are using russia there is no difference
and you eddo your hope is that if turkey get closer with russians they will be love armenians? i dont think so...

[Joseph]

Re: Armenian Georgian Relations

Eddo211- oh we are enemies? we must close the borders with armenia? dumass
so we are using usa and turkey and you are using russia there is no difference
and you eddo your hope is that if turkey get closer with russians they will be love armenians? i dont think so...

Georgians threw in their lot with the Turks long ago and they've had it out for Armenians for centuries due to petty jealousies. Many of the reasons why Armenians are aligned with Russians have to do with the fact that the Georgians left Armenians with no choice. Instead of being magnanimous they continue to act on behalf of the Turks and Azeris and use their geographical position to pressure Armenia. Christian brotherhood is wasted on them. They forget that the US will be gone from the region soon and the Turks will show their true intentions as well.

Here's what Georgia should do if their smart:

1) Provide official language status to Armenian within Javakhk.

2) Provide legal status to the Armenian Apostolic Church of Georgia and return Armenian churches confiscated during the Soviet era.

3) End the political persecution of Armenian community activists and leaders and release Vahagn Chakhalyan from prison.

4) End the prohibition on Armenian language books, newspapers and publications entering Javakhk by border officials.

5) End the ban on entry into Georgia of groups of Armenians who work on Javakhk-related matters.

6) Reinstate Armenian language classes in Javakhk schools, which have been curtailed by the government.

7) Stop periodic blockades of Armenia and stealing goods coming from Armenia or going to Armenia.

Otherwise Javakh will be the next region to secede. It will not be good for anybody in the short-term but how long can people be expected to live in a dire situation that is thrust upon them by Tbilisi.