Re: Sarkozy - Friend or Foe?
Funny how you are making imaginary coclusions and interpretations. For the record I knew exactly you were playing with words by 'we'll see for the rest'...
This is exactly what he meant. We will discuss the possibilities of its full membership later. And it means that he has softened, toned down and moderated his stance considering what he had preached a few months ago.
However it seems that you have no or little knowledge of Sarkozy's electoral campaign and what he preached exactly at the time and what he is saying now; the following article reflects- more or less- how he softened his stance:
It is clear enough that from now on, Sarkozy would not veto the reopening of negotioations; he would not block the resumtion of negotiations which could lead to either full or associate ( looser) membership and all the aforementioned mean a considerable weakening of his previous stance which was the absolute opposition to Turkish membership of the European Union.
It was as 'relevant' as when you mentioned the irrelevant sentence about The Russians, Iranians and Arabs...
So what? what is the relevance between real History and some personal, individual preferences??
Nevertheless, my talk was- more or less- referred to pre-Islam Persia; thus Zoroastrianism era where the two peoples shared a common history, culture, religion, etc. If you haven't read Avesta, I strongly recommend you read the Holy book of Zoroastrians, you'll be amazed by many things in that book and understand more what I mean.
(And for the record, the Persian empire, for instance; The Achaemenids ruled over a large territory, from the Caucasus region - which it included - in the north, down to the Sea of Oman in the south, and from India in the east to the Adriatic Sea in the west.)
Even though I have been exposed to different peoples with different cultures I will travel more in the future; I'm still in my twenties and have a lot of time to do so... But in all seriousness, I suggest you stop being so ill-tempered.
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Originally posted by Siamanto
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Funny how you are making imaginary coclusions and interpretations. For the record I knew exactly you were playing with words by 'we'll see for the rest'...
Originally posted by Siamanto
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However it seems that you have no or little knowledge of Sarkozy's electoral campaign and what he preached exactly at the time and what he is saying now; the following article reflects- more or less- how he softened his stance:
France will not oppose EU talks with Turkey: Sarkozy
French president Nicolas Sarkozy on Monday softened his opposition to Turkey joining the European Union, saying France would not block negotiations on this issue.
In his first major foreign policy since taking office, Sarkozy stressed he remained against the majority-Muslim country's full-adhesion to the EU, but had left the door open to its possible future membership unlike before.
He conditioned his stance on the EU's launch before the end of the year of a committee of high-level experts to examine questions concerning the bloc's future.
"If that vital reflection on the future of our union is launched... France will not oppose new chapters of negotiations between the union and Turkey being opened in the months and years to come," Sarkozy said in an address to French ambassodors from 180 countries.
Sarkozy said one condition was that "those chapters be compatible with the two possible visions" of relations betweenn Turkey and the EU: complete membership or a more narrowly defined association.
"I'm not going to be a hypocrite. Everyone knows that I'm only in favor of an association... I think that the idea of an association will one day be recognised by everyone as being the most reasonable," he said.
Sarkozy avoided the tough talk he has used in the past when addressing the issue, previously declaring that Turkey did not have a place in the 27-nation bloc.
He also did not use the term "privileged partner" to describe Turkey's relationship with the EU. Ankara has viewd that description as relagating Turkey to second-tier status.
Sarkozy said his new stance was a workable compromise, and he warned Turkey against taking too rigid a stance on its potential membership since France could still oppose discussions.
"It is obvious that if this compromise formula were to be refused, I simply want to issue a reminder unanimity is required for discussions to continue," he said.
In response to the remarks, the European Comission saluted Sarkozy's "contribution to the debate in progress", spokesman Amadeu Altafaj said.
[...]
Source: http://www.eubusiness.com/Turkey/1188210721.96
French president Nicolas Sarkozy on Monday softened his opposition to Turkey joining the European Union, saying France would not block negotiations on this issue.
In his first major foreign policy since taking office, Sarkozy stressed he remained against the majority-Muslim country's full-adhesion to the EU, but had left the door open to its possible future membership unlike before.
He conditioned his stance on the EU's launch before the end of the year of a committee of high-level experts to examine questions concerning the bloc's future.
"If that vital reflection on the future of our union is launched... France will not oppose new chapters of negotiations between the union and Turkey being opened in the months and years to come," Sarkozy said in an address to French ambassodors from 180 countries.
Sarkozy said one condition was that "those chapters be compatible with the two possible visions" of relations betweenn Turkey and the EU: complete membership or a more narrowly defined association.
"I'm not going to be a hypocrite. Everyone knows that I'm only in favor of an association... I think that the idea of an association will one day be recognised by everyone as being the most reasonable," he said.
Sarkozy avoided the tough talk he has used in the past when addressing the issue, previously declaring that Turkey did not have a place in the 27-nation bloc.
He also did not use the term "privileged partner" to describe Turkey's relationship with the EU. Ankara has viewd that description as relagating Turkey to second-tier status.
Sarkozy said his new stance was a workable compromise, and he warned Turkey against taking too rigid a stance on its potential membership since France could still oppose discussions.
"It is obvious that if this compromise formula were to be refused, I simply want to issue a reminder unanimity is required for discussions to continue," he said.
In response to the remarks, the European Comission saluted Sarkozy's "contribution to the debate in progress", spokesman Amadeu Altafaj said.
[...]
Source: http://www.eubusiness.com/Turkey/1188210721.96
It is clear enough that from now on, Sarkozy would not veto the reopening of negotioations; he would not block the resumtion of negotiations which could lead to either full or associate ( looser) membership and all the aforementioned mean a considerable weakening of his previous stance which was the absolute opposition to Turkish membership of the European Union.
Originally posted by Siamanto
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Originally posted by Siamanto
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Nevertheless, my talk was- more or less- referred to pre-Islam Persia; thus Zoroastrianism era where the two peoples shared a common history, culture, religion, etc. If you haven't read Avesta, I strongly recommend you read the Holy book of Zoroastrians, you'll be amazed by many things in that book and understand more what I mean.
(And for the record, the Persian empire, for instance; The Achaemenids ruled over a large territory, from the Caucasus region - which it included - in the north, down to the Sea of Oman in the south, and from India in the east to the Adriatic Sea in the west.)
Originally posted by Siamanto
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Even though I have been exposed to different peoples with different cultures I will travel more in the future; I'm still in my twenties and have a lot of time to do so... But in all seriousness, I suggest you stop being so ill-tempered.
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