Elections in Armenia

[Virgil]

Re: Presidential elections 2008 in Armenia

Freaky idiot, I want you to assemble a few thousand people without notifying your local city hall, without getting a permit, and march on Main street. See what will happen...

Seriously, xxxxing imbicles, I only cringe, I only cringe Armenian, you and I know where this bullxxxx is going and I guess we know what is going to happen, Armenian authonomy goes to xxxx, Artsahk back to Azerbaijan, and etc ... all a downward spiral because a few idiots think armed revolution is the answer, when in fact, you need to build on the strong economic push regardless of the corruption, the image of growth brings money, whether a certain percent lose the money due to corruption or their own inexperience, the point is, when economic confidence is shaken, a nation under a free market system loses investors. Lets ask the "opposition pundits", what did this acheive? What have you gained except make a ass of the Armenian government, a government, irrespective of corruption, elected officials have to wake up a day, a week, a month, or a year after this, go to the international body and ask for support, a international body that by that time only looks down on the government because, essentially, a government that can not control its own citizens, is not a government at all. What are you going to tell Azerbaijan during the next Artsahk/Karabagh negotiations? Absolutly nothing, even though it is undemocratic, its international image has not been tarnished at this level (Essentially, the demostrations in Azerbaijan are blacked out in western media, hmm, .... makes you wonder, does it not? Who actually is pulling the strings? xxxxing connect the dots you idiots).

Azerbaijani officials will just tell Armenian deligates, "to go xxxx themselves, your government's legitimacy is in question", have you thought about that one? No, what about the repurcussion on Russia and Iran, our only trading partners? How will they even count on Armenia? No, I don't think you have, xxxxing christ, I just cry sometimes at the level of idiocy of the Armenian people, and then you wonder how Romans and Persians were able to subdue Armenia for two thousand years? You people make me sick, I am very disappointed, I am very disappointed at the level of stupid, to blindly give a xxxx up like Levon a political handgun, how much of a idiot do you have to be?

[Virgil]

Re: Presidential elections 2008 in Armenia

By the way, if anyone wants to get rid of corruptoin, you have to go to Armenia, build on the people, eventually, get your name up there, become a politicized family, and then go on a "which hunt". You idiots don't realize that no one today, knows exactly who is corrupt and who is not, do you realize that in the United States, the dealings of senetors are so convuluted that no one really knows, who is on what side of the issue and, furthermore, nobody xxxxing knows or is certain on the level legitimacy of each and every candidate. Under a democracy, everyone is dirty, get that through your thick heads, you want to live in a utopia, you go to Armenia, you put each and every politician to the sword, then you will have a just society (granted the person is not corrupt himself, then you will have a dictatorship). If you can not do this and Armenia is not in a state that will give it the cusion for such instability, you need to shut the xxxx up and be content with the status quo.

[Fedayeen]

Re: Presidential elections 2008 in Armenia

FEDAYEEN you said that Levon was set free, but Anahit from Los Angeles, the lady that talked during the demonstrations in LA said that he is still under house arrest

That was during the day. My news came at night.

[Fedayeen]

Re: Presidential elections 2008 in Armenia

Somebody is pissed because they can't get more than 10 people together to go protest

[Armenian]

Re: Presidential elections 2008 in Armenia

I am reposting this following article from Pravda, it should be read by as many people as possible.

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Armenia Assaulted by Orange Agents

Perhaps the empire just doesn’t get it. They need to re-examine their despicable, foolish and devious scheme to bring an orange scenario to an embattled, besieged Armenia. Under blockade by neighboring Turkey and Azerbaijan, Armenia continues to prosper despite some instances of corruption and economic isolation. Armenia is not fertile ground for any sort of orange scenario. Armenians are generally politically astute, pro-Russian and not easily swayed. They are also acutely aware of the fact that there is no future for them as vassals of the empire.

Armenian history is said to be 12,000 years old, and Mt. Ararat is the historic scene where Noah‘s Ark is said to have rested, a revered and treasured Armenian landmark. An archeologist’s dream come true, Armenia is a land of quaint churches and elaborately and meticulously carved khatchkars (Orthodox crosses). Constant and reliable, the centuries old friendship and alliance with Russia is unshakable. Most Armenians are aware of the fact that there probably would be no Armenia if not for Russia. No plots or schemes by the empire are going to change that reality.

The empire also wins no friends among Armenians for its consistent policy of Genocide denial. These policies go beyond the geo-political considerations given as an excuse, such as the US base in occupied Western Armenia, under control of Turkey and their alliances with Armenian enemies Turkey, Israel and Azerbaijan. And then there are the oil pipelines…constructed to bypass Armenia, a country in a strategic position between east and west, a crossroads as it were. As a result of the Armenian Genocide of 1894-1923, Armenians lost most of their homeland and over 1.5 million Armenians were murdered in the most horrendous and brutal fashion imaginable and unimaginable. To this day, no Nuremberg trials, no compensation or apology have occurred. Therefore, the memory of this tragedy in an ongoing issue of importance to Armenians.

In Armenia, Levon Ter-Petrosian is generally despised for his corrupt ruinous policies while President of Armenia. He is also despised for proffering the notion that the recently liberated Armenian land of Artsakh (Nagorno-Karabakh) should be returned to Azerbaijan. Artsakh is now an independent country. The US regime is financially backing Ter-Petrosian and causing trouble in the background. Ter-Petrosian had the strange idea that he had a snowball’s chance in hell of winning an election to be President. Fat chance. Now he sends agitators to do his bidding, a la Soros funding, all the best agitators money and the empire can buy.

On Public Armenian Television, Armenian Parliament Speaker Tigran Torosian told the following of his knowledge of events: “These people decided who the winner is five minutes after the election. This is their characteristic feature. I learned about my alleged resignation from journalists. Levon Ter-Petrosian and his team-mates have exhausted the sources of lies which exceed all possible borders,” the speaker said. “They spread lies about all and offense all those who are not with them. They are filled with hatred and revenge,” he said. "OK, let's say all the grenades, pistols and automatics were planted by the regime, what do you have to say about all those hooligans with rods and sticks, beating the police, throwing bricks and stones, burning cars including busses and an ambulance, looting shops and supermarkets?"

According to various local reports, 8 persons were killed in orange demonstrations as the Army was called in to restore the peace. They also report that Opera and Republican Square are swarming with army troops and military police armed to the teeth with AK-47s, belt-fed battle rifles and there are dozens of light tanks in both locations. In addition to that, there are troops scattered in posts all over the city and on all the roads into the city. One hundred and thirty-one persons were reported injured in the March 1 disturbances. An on the scene observer sent this report: "Hi, this morning I walked from the Opera House until Mashtoz Underpass. Everything was just fine. Police closed the underpass toward city hall and near the French embassy where they made a mess. My friend 8:30 at night went everywhere with the exception of closed areas and found calm...all shops are open and traffic is normal, 8 people got killed and about 30 people got arrested for looting, all young guys."

Interior troops and police officers suffered bullet wounds and injuries in the March 1 clashes with rioters in Yerevan. On his visit to the hospital, President Kocharian was accompanied by police chief Hayk Harutyunian and other officials. Kocharian went from one hospital ward to another and spoke to officers and servicemen. Hospital chief, Arthur Petrosian, said they admitted 33 wounded officers and servicemen on March 1 until 8.30 pm and 27 others after 9 pm. He said 11 received bullet wounds, eight were hospitalized with heavy symptoms of gas poisoning, 2 received knife wounds. Seven servicemen went to their quarters after receiving first aid and 11 others were operated on. The chief of the hospital said their condition is satisfactory now.

At the end of February, prior to the breakout of violence, a vehicle was apprehended trying to enter the country loaded with weapons and ammunition. On March 1, 2008, Armenia’s President Robert Kocharian declared a 2-day state of emergency in compliance of article 55.6 of the RA (Republic of Armenia) Constitution (threat to state and population security). Fortunately, anti-terrorist, anti-orange scenario joint exercises were held by Armenia and Russia in anticipation of such occurrences. Meanwhile the empire is mouthing duplicitous, hypocritical words about “excessive use of force.”

Secretary General of the Council of Europe, Terry Davis said, “The state of emergency suspends the application of several rights and freedoms protected by the European Convention on Human Rights. Under Article 15 of the Convention the Armenian Government must inform me of the measures which it has taken and the reasons therefore. I expect that they will do so without any delay,” the Council of Europe press division reports. The recent presidential elections in Armenia saw Serzh Sarksyan, Kocharian’s number two man, elected as President of Armenia. The voting result was unmistakable: Serzh Sarkisyan - 862,369 (52,82%) votes, Levon Ter-Petrosian – 351,222 (21,5%).votes.

The February 19th presidential elections were not only characterized as `free and fair' by the CIS observers, but also received the positive assessments of the Western observation missions. The observation mission of the OSCE Parliamentary Assembly, which stands out in terms of its strict and meticulous attitude towards the electoral processes held in former USSR territories, clearly recorded that, `The presidential elections held in Armenia on February 19 were mostly in line with the commitments to the OSCE and the Council of Europe.” But this didn’t satisfy the orange agitators. Kocharian, throughout his term as President, has had a warm, brotherly relationship with his counterpart in Russia, Vladimir Putin. Like the outgoing president, Robert Kocharian, Mr. Sarkisyan is from Artsakh (Nagorno-Karabakh). Both men were commanders in the war.

The newly elected Armenian President released this message to the people:

“Dear Compatriots, In consequence of the recent events, our people suffered great losses. There are casualties among policemen, who performed their duty, and among protesters, who fell under the influence of a group of people. Hundreds of civilians suffered from illegal acts of the radical opposition. Leaders of the co-called ‘movement’ made targets of their own supporters and policemen to suit their own ends. The initiators of disorders must answer for their deeds before the law, history and generations. With pain, I conceive that our compatriots fell victim to blind hatred of some individuals. I share your grief and wish you courage and strength to overcome this tragedy…”

As the cleanup crew mitigates the after effects of the recent lawlessness, one can only hope that the street sweepers will also sweep away the trash known as orange agent provocateurs and leave this proud, struggling nation in peace.

Source: http://english.pravda.ru/opinion/col...rmeniaorange-0

[freakyfreaky]

Re: Presidential elections 2008 in Armenia

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2006/02/14/BAGIAH8L5D5.DTL

http://laughingsquid.com/pillow-figh...-photos-video/ (2008)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YwWPywVlpug (2006)

Something tells me they didn't get a permit. The right of assembly does not require a permit.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vdhoBgEb5Os

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jwMj3PJDxuo

http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/news/article-23391632-details/4,000+flash+mob+dancers+startle+commuters+at+Victoria/article.do

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jn2QEpFZYuA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0SZQt...eature=related (same mob of 4000, different feed)

http://www.cnn.com/2003/TECH/internet/08/04/flash.mob/

(probably no permits here either at these train stations)

Hmm, did they get a permit to rally in Turkey after Hrant Dink's murder? Probably not.

Or, when Armenians marched in Los Angeles on Sunday, February 24, and March 2, 2008. Probably not.

Armenian, goes to great lengths to prove his knowledge. The Axis of Stupidity strikes again.

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http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...arch&plindex=1 (Cream Puff War: The Golden Road to Devotion)

No, no! she cant take your mind and leave
I know its just another trick shes got up her sleeve
I cant believe that she really wants you to die
After all its more than enough to pay for your lie

Wait a minute, watch what youre doin with your time
All the endless ruins of the past must stay behind, yeah

Well, cant you see that youre killing each others soul
Well, youre both out in the streets and you got no place to go
Your constant battes are getting to be a bore
So go somewhere else and continue your cream puff war

[Virgil]

Re: Presidential elections 2008 in Armenia

Armenian, goes to great lengths to prove his knowledge. The Axis of Stupidity strikes again.

I am sure you will be the first person on the plane to Armenia when the government fails and Armenian, men, women, and children, are caught in the instability, right? xxxxing idiot, your limited and narrow minded comments make me sick. No one is arguing the fact that corruption exists, no one is arguing the fact that there exists problem, however, you are talking about turning the entire nation upside down for questionable entities and a questionable solution, there is no gurantee with rebellion, you are basically shutting down government. And a state where two borders are blocked, where one front is still in a active state of war, how can a non functional government provide military defense of its territorial integrity? xxxxing dumbass, you need to stop with your antics.

[HayotzAmrotz]

Re: Presidential elections 2008 in Armenia

HayotzAmrotz, it's no use talking to these turks.

You are right, you are absolutely right, brother.

Forget California Armenians they are mostly petty street xxxxxs. And low lives like board members Artsakh, Fedayeen, Freaky are the off-springs of these petty street xxxxxs. Forget about listening to their petty BS, all of their information is based on gossip and hearsay. Screw these people and have no regret doing so because they are an embarrassment for us all. They are a longterm threat to the security of the Armenian nation.

I use to be a lot more tolerant before but now after what I saw, after what I heard and after what I know - I have absolutely no regrets to fuk them all and fuk them so hard they’ll forget their own fuken names. So, fuk anyone who a) wholeheartedly supports LTP and his team of traitors, b) anyone who even indirectly advocates for a violent overthrow of our government, c) anyone who fired shots at our solders in Yerevan… …people like that are the enemies of Hayastani Hanrapetutiun and should not be spared!

Not even a million LTP's could manage to do anything if the people did not allow it. And this ordeal reinforces my conviction that most Armenians alive today are garbage. Just take a close look around you in California... virtually all of them, from Lebanon, from Iran, from Armenia, from Turkey, from Syria... They are all garbage...

It’s a very sad situation. But unfortunately it’s 100 per cent true. They are all garbage, they are all filth. But guess what? We’ve got the fuken hose and we are going wash this garbage from our streets. Let these filthy rats to run to their master’s den - to Southern California.

[Tigranakert]

Re: Presidential elections 2008 in Armenia

//www.panARMENIAN.net// Azerbaijan made an attempt to make use of the domestic tension in Armenia to provoke a ceasefire violation in Mardakert direction, RA Foreign Minister Vartan Oskanian told reporters in Yerevan.

“The Azeri units tried to advance through the Armenian territory and seize a post but were rebuffed. Several Armenian servicemen were injured, 2 Azeri soldiers were killed. The skirmish is going on but not so violently. We have already sent a notice to OSCE CiO’s special representative Andrzej Kasprzyk and hope that the situation will settle down soon,” he said.

“If someone in Baku hopes to gain psychological dividends, thinking that we are too concentrated on our internal affairs, he is deeply mistaken,” the Armenian Minister emphasized.

[Artandsky]

Re: Presidential elections 2008 in Armenia

Absolutely agree with Virgil and Armenian

Armenia is country in a siege, basically in a state of frozen war. In this condition normal functioning democracy is impossible until siege is lifted, at this point it is about our nations survival.

It is either to hold the line or to open the gates and let the enemy in.

This is as simple is that!