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  • Re: Presidential elections 2008 in Armenia

    In fact, why don't we start a list of such people:
    Is anyone else interested in contributing to this list, or is playing music to the ears of our enemies by constantly stating that Armenia Armenians hate Artsakh Armenians all you people are good for?

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    • Re: Presidential elections 2008 in Armenia

      Federation if you look to the comment page of some newspapers you'll see that there are indeviduals out there that hate people from artsakh. they are a very small group of rodens who need to be killed but they exsit

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      • Re: Presidential elections 2008 in Armenia

        Originally posted by KarotheGreat View Post
        Federation if you look to the comment page of some newspapers you'll see that there are indeviduals out there that hate people from artsakh. they are a very small group of rodens who need to be killed but they exsit
        Name them.

        A comment I heard once from Aram Sargsyan, the brother of Vazgen, was directed at Kocharyan when he said "Let him go govern Karabakh." Even in this case, I do not interpret it as "hate." Similarily, I've heard a number of Americans calling on Bush to go back to Texas. Does that means those Americans hate all Americans from Texas?

        Hate would be if he said lets return Karabakh. To the contrary, this same individual-Aram Sargsyan-has made several public speeches with regards to Armenian heroism in Artsakh.
        Last edited by Federation; 05-03-2008, 07:25 PM.

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        • Re: Presidential elections 2008 in Armenia

          In a speech in Yerevan, Professor Suny remarked that he would like to see the Azerbaijani flag waving in Stepanakert. He barely escaped with his life from the angry crowd.
          I never heard that, do you know why he would say such a thing?
          For the first time in more than 600 years, Armenia is free and independent, and we are therefore obligated
          to place our national interests ahead of our personal gains or aspirations.



          http://www.armenianhighland.com/main.html

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          • Re: Presidential elections 2008 in Armenia

            Originally posted by Armanen View Post
            I never heard that, do you know why he would say such a thing?
            I don't know how any Armenian could say such a thing. Either he has a few screws loose, or he's employed by certain anti-Armenian forces. The looser nearly got his head cracked open. He should have been made an example of for the rest of his kind.
            Last edited by Federation; 05-03-2008, 07:29 PM.

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            • Re: Presidential elections 2008 in Armenia

              Originally posted by Federation View Post
              I don't know how many Armenian could say such a thing. Either he has a few screws loose, or he's employed by certain anti-Armenian forces. The looser nearly got his head cracked open. He should have been made an example of for the rest of his kind.

              Indeed! And this p.o.s. is allowed to teach at one of the best universities in the nation, he is part of the Armenian and oriental studies department at the university of chicago. He has also written several articles on Armenia and Armenians for various outlets, such as encarta encyclopedia.
              For the first time in more than 600 years, Armenia is free and independent, and we are therefore obligated
              to place our national interests ahead of our personal gains or aspirations.



              http://www.armenianhighland.com/main.html

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              • Re: Presidential elections 2008 in Armenia

                I keep hearing - "but Artsakh is seeking independence, that is treason."

                I also keep hearing - "why do we even need Artsakh?"
                Who do you keep on hearing this from? The only place I've heard that is from some dumbass on this forum. Name me any serious political party or political worker in Armenia who has made such a case.

                Citing material from Armenianow.com doesn't help your case either. Everyone knows full well what they're all about, and what they're doing isn't any worse than what you're doing.
                Last edited by Federation; 05-03-2008, 07:34 PM.

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                • Re: Presidential elections 2008 in Armenia

                  Federation, if you have not heared Armenians with statements like that, than I suppose you have few Armenian friends in Armenia. I have got lots of friends back in Armenia, and a good friend of mine says when he takes part in discussions at his university, there are lot of people who make anti-Artsakh statements. This problem definitely exists.

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                  • Re: Presidential elections 2008 in Armenia

                    Originally posted by Tigranakert View Post
                    Federation, if you have not heared Armenians with statements like that, than I suppose you have few Armenian friends in Armenia. I have got lots of friends back in Armenia, and a good friend of mine says when he takes part in discussions at his university, there are lot of people who make anti-Artsakh statements. This problem definitely exists.
                    With statements like what? What constitutes "anti-Artsakh"? Criticism of Kocharyan and Sargsyan is not the equavilent of being anti-Artsakh.

                    I have relatives there and know first hand what this "hayastancy-Artsakhcy" friction is all about. The reason for it is known, and I'm getting tired of repeating it over and over. Plus, it is nothing new. During the Soviet days the native Hayastancy's would refer to diasporan Armenians who returned to Armenia as "Axpar." I'm not justifying this divide, but such a phenomenon exists in all nations. But this guy is making a bigger deal out of it than it is. What he's doing isn't productive at all. He's telling the Turks that Armenians are a divided nation struggling against eachother and putting a smile on their face. Such an assertion couldn't be further from the truth, and I will not allow for it. What does he hope to accomplish by repeating this over and over?

                    Lets put a stop to this "he said she said." If you have names of people who made Anti-Armenian, Anti-Artsakh remarks, by all means disclose their identity.

                    But what do you hope to accomplish by constantly stating over and over that the population of Armenia hates Artsakh Armenians? What are you suggesting? Perhaps a genocide to exterminate the Armenians of Armenia? Armenia Armenian, Artsakh Armenian, Iranian Armenian, Georgian Armenian--We're all one and the same. I can assure you that the Turk sees no difference between us. Such talk is foolish, and we've got more important work to do.

                    Enjoy the videos and music you love, upload original content, and share it all with friends, family, and the world on YouTube.
                    Last edited by Federation; 05-06-2008, 08:25 AM.

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                    • Re: Presidential elections 2008 in Armenia

                      Originally posted by Federation View Post
                      With statements like what? What constitutes "anti-Artsakh"? Criticism of Kocharyan and Sargsyan is not the equavilent of being anti-Artsakh.
                      Enjoy the videos and music you love, upload original content, and share it all with friends, family, and the world on YouTube.


                      Watch the video..."yes asum em Kharabakh@ pti hanznenk azerbaidjancinerin"....is that anti-Artsakh enough for you? Do you see any negative reaction from the crowd when levon said such a thing?

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