Dashnaktsutyun - Armenian Revolutionary Federation

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Plot to Assassinate ARF Members Entering Turkey Exposed


Armenian Parliamentarian Ara Nranian was Possible Target

ANKARA, Turkey (A.W.)—Turkish security forces provided details of plots by a Turkish terrorist group planning to assassinate members of the Armenian Revolutionary Federation visiting Turkey and attack Kurdish targets, reported the Turkish daily newspaper Zaman.

According to the police report, one such plot dated back to March 22, 2009, when members of the Turkish Revenge Brigades (Türk İntikam Birliği Teşkilatı) Mutlu Erdogan and Onur [full name not provided] discussed over the phone the entry of an ARF member into Turkey and his acquisition of a cell phone number. Responding to the information provided by Onur, Erdogan advises him to lay low for a few months, because he suspects that security forces are following them. “Let a few months pass and we will slowly begin conducting operations; we won’t stand by idly,” he adds.

According to the Armenian Weekly, the identity of the ARF member mentioned in the March 22 conversation could not be independently confirmed. In the phone conversation log, he is referred to as the head of the Tashnak Party’s (ARF) political committee (Taşnak Partisi’nin Siyasi Komite Başkanı).

No one in the organization’s leadership holds such a title, and no member of the ARF’s top leadership has entered Turkey in recent years. It is likely that the target in March was a member of the ARF parliamentary bloc in the Armenian National Assembly, Ara Nranian, who was in Turkey for a meeting of the Black Sea Economic Cooperation (BSEC) meeting.

The only ARF “heads” visiting Turkey are editors/directors of ARF media, as well as journalists of the Yerevan-based Yerkir Media, who visit Turkey several times a year to conduct interviews and prepare special reports and documentaries.

The police report notes the connection between Ergenekon and the Brigates, and also cites planned attacks against Kurdish and Christian targets.

http://asbarez.com/89560/plot-to-assassinate-arf-members-entering-turkey-exposed/

[Federate]

Re: Dashnaktsutyun - Armenian Revolutionary Federation

Thanks bell, everything works fine and dandy!

[bell-the-cat]

Re: Dashnaktsutyun - Armenian Revolutionary Federation

It is on this file storage server. You can download it using their free option, without actually taking out a subscription for the website. Just choose "regular download", wait a minute, and then click the "create download link" button.

http://oron.com/1m7e1n7uindv/armenia...songs.pdf.html

I was just now testing the link, and for some reason the letter code you need to enter to get the download link is not loading. Don't know if it is a temporary site problem or what. If someone manages to get it downloaded, and wishes to post it somewhere more easily accessible, then that's fine by me.

[bell-the-cat]

Re: Dashnaktsutyun - Armenian Revolutionary Federation

I have scanned the book and put it on a file sharer as a pdf file, and will post a url here once I hear from Christina that she has been able to download it (have given her the url first, via a pm).

It is on this file storage server. You can download it using their free option, without actually taking out a subscription for the website. Just choose "regular download", wait a minute, and then click the "create download link" button.

http://oron.com/1m7e1n7uindv/armenian_revolutionary_songs.pdf.html

[Federate]

Re: ARF has a remarkable history in the life of our nation.

Well, file this one under we are all related to someone heroic. Just found out that Simon "Ded" Achikgezyan, commander of "Arabo" detachment in the Karabagh war was my blood relative. God rest his soul!!!

What an honour!

I have scanned the book and put it on a file sharer as a pdf file, and will post a url here once I hear from Christina that she has been able to download it (have given her the url first, via a pm).

Don't make us wait too long, bell

Some people blame ARF for small mistakes done in past. And support those parties that did nothing, except paying out the election bribes of about $15 per vote. ARF took active part in heroic actions of our nation in past and recently, don't forget it.

Their small sins doesn't make the other "powerful" corrupt political parties better.

Blame it on 70 years of anti-ARF and anti-nationalist Soviet propaganda.

[gegev]

Re: ARF has a remarkable history in the life of our nation.

Some people blame ARF for small mistakes done in past. And support those parties that did nothing, except paying out the election bribes of about $15 per vote. ARF took active part in heroic actions of our nation in past and recently, don't forget it.

Their small sins doesn't make the other "powerful" corrupt political parties better.

[bell-the-cat]

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Christina - I'll scan and post here a few of the pages from the book.

I have scanned the book and put it on a file sharer as a pdf file, and will post a url here once I hear from Christina that she has been able to download it (have given her the url first, via a pm).

[freakyfreaky]

Re: Dashnaktsutyun - Armenian Revolutionary Federation

Well, file this one under we are all related to someone heroic. Just found out that Simon "Ded" Achikgezyan, commander of "Arabo" detachment in the Karabagh war was my blood relative. God rest his soul!!!

On April 23 a special session of the Parliament was convened by the Presidium of the Supreme Council of the Republic of Azerbaijan in connection with the aggravation of the situation in the villages of Getashen, Martunashen, as well as Shahumyan Region. On April 23 Getashen and Martunashen were entirely surrounded by the Russian army. "The detachments of "Arabo" led by Simon Achikgezyan (alias "Ded", died on 30.04.1991, battling alone against a tank) in Martunashen, the Hrazdan detachment commanded by Zarzand Danielyan (alias "Hrach"), the detachment "Malatia-Sebastia" with the commander Vahan Zatikyan and Dashnaks with the legendary commander Tatul Krpeyan defended the village". (From the recollections of home-guard Simon Tatalyan from Getashen).
On April 28 three Russian officers came to Getashen for negotiations and told that the Azeris were ready to pay for the land. They received a flat refusal.
On April 29 the fire continued along the whole Armenian-Azerbaijani border.
On April 30 the session of the Security Council was held chaired by Gorbachov. A division of the Baku regiment of the Interior Armed Forces of the Ministry of the Interior of the USSR under the command of Colonel Mashkov occupied the ridges surrounding Getashen and a fire was opened on the village. The transmission from Getashen sent from an amateur radio station said, "The troops are attacking the village and peaceful people are being massacred. At nine o'clock more than 10 people had been killed. Many of the villagers are heavily wounded or taken hostage… "
"At 4.30 AM" of April 30 the armed units of the internal troops of the USSR Ministry of the Interior intruded into Getashen and Martunashen in tanks and armed carriers. They attacked the villages concurrently from several points. We were trapped in a tight circle. 207 tanks and armed carriers, 6 "Crocodile" and "Cobra" helicopters charged against 14497 households. In the outlying areas of the village 27 houses were burnt immediately and there were the first victims. The people moved towards the center of the village, organizing a circle of self-defense." (From the recollections of G. Gyurdjyan)
The helicopters charges the first, then the tanks bombed, followed by around 28.000 Russian soldiers who screened the Azerbaijani OMON, representatives of the People's Front and marauders. Their number reached around 13.000. The faces of the soldiers were by whatever reasons covered with brilliant ethyl green...".

http://www.karabagh.am/eng/GlavTem/110Kolco.htm

[Joseph]

Re: Armenian Revolutionary Fed. - A Nuisance?

I will be upfront, I've never been a fan of the ARF and their policies. Their ways of threatening and blackmailing politicians, and at times interfering with the interests of the Republic of Armenia. Though they have done some good over time, I believe they've also done much harm and that harm has been done in the name of the Armenian nation, which is inaccurate since they do not represent the Armenian Republic!! But are mostly comprised of Western Armenian Diasporans who see issues in a more fanatical and heavily nationalistic way.

The moderate Armenian politicians see the same issues in a more practical and realistic way. The ARF sometimes fails to bring in the people and the local economy of Armenia into the picture, and focus on more nationalistic issues rather than focus on the welfare and well being of the real Armenian people in Armenia. A rather egotistical side I see.

Should it be made more clear to the international community that the ARF doesn't reflect the interests of Armenia? And the fact that most of them, being Western Armenians, many times solely seek justice and revenge for historical issues rather than focus on the issues affecting Armenian people now? Maybe a better idea would be to form a counter group to ARF that represents the interests of the Republic, and lobbies not against the government but with the government of Armenia.

Many people in Armenia are disillusioned with the ARF, and I having a relative in the National Assembly know first-hand that many politicians in the government are sick with the ARF branch in Armenia and find the whole organisation a nuisance in the state affairs and interests of Armenia. I hope Armenian government can properly distance itself from ARF, and additionally form a group to represent the real Armenian issues of Armenia.

I agree with some of what you wrote. I think some of the ARG goals are not realistic and that leads to them being counterproductive at times. But at the same time, the current non-ARF leaders and politicians in Armenian are an absolute joke. They are more often than not working on behalf of wanna be oligarchs, they are completely unsophisticated, have very little knowledge of realpolitic or the outside world for that matter. If Armenia was without the ARF and diaspora political support, Artsakh would now be in Azeri hands, there would be no alliance with Russia, and perhaps Armenia would now be province of Turkey and I'll bet they would still face the same geo-political problems they face today. After having witness the work (of shall I say laziness?) of Armenian diplomats here in the U.S., without diaspora support Armenia would in danger.

[levon]

Re: Armenian Revolutionary Fed. - A Nuisance?

I will be upfront, I've never been a fan of the ARF and their policies. Their ways of threatening and blackmailing politicians, and at times interfering with the interests of the Republic of Armenia. Though they have done some good over time, I believe they've also done much harm and that harm has been done in the name of the Armenian nation, which is inaccurate since they do not represent the Armenian Republic!! But are mostly comprised of Western Armenian Diasporans who see issues in a more fanatical and heavily nationalistic way.

The moderate Armenian politicians see the same issues in a more practical and realistic way. The ARF sometimes fails to bring in the people and the local economy of Armenia into the picture, and focus on more nationalistic issues rather than focus on the welfare and well being of the real Armenian people in Armenia. A rather egotistical side I see.

Should it be made more clear to the international community that the ARF doesn't reflect the interests of Armenia? And the fact that most of them, being Western Armenians, many times solely seek justice and revenge for historical issues rather than focus on the issues affecting Armenian people now? Maybe a better idea would be to form a counter group to ARF that represents the interests of the Republic, and lobbies not against the government but with the government of Armenia.

Many people in Armenia are disillusioned with the ARF, and I having a relative in the National Assembly know first-hand that many politicians in the government are sick with the ARF branch in Armenia and find the whole organisation a nuisance in the state affairs and interests of Armenia. I hope Armenian government can properly distance itself from ARF, and additionally form a group to represent the real Armenian issues of Armenia.

Armenia, more than ever, needs a political party that is fanatical about Armenian statehood. This indirectly makes sure that retarded actions that provide quick profit for politicians but harm the nation in the long run are kept in check.

Furthermore, please do a bit more research on the activities of ARF, before you blindly throw hate at them. They may be fanatical at times, and their ideals have somewhat changed over the years, but they provide a much needed wake-up call for all those Armenians who have grown naive by thinking that Turks may be trusted, or that the west cares about Armenia.