Add the kardashians to the famous Armenian section's description

[Tali]

Re: Add the kardashians to the famous Armenian section's description

Wrong, blacks in America have absolutely NO CONNECTION to their African roots emotionally or culturally. The majority don't even know what part of Africa they are from.

not always true.
but let's pretend for a moment that it is 100% true.
there are many people that say they're black. some of them don't look black. some of them i'm pretty sure aren't even black. but they swear somewhere in their family there is a black person, and they go and try to find who it is -so they can keep saying they're black.

They feel so Armenian that they feel the need to insult the culture repeatedly. They are beyond trash and an embarrassment to any society let alone Armenian. They are NOT ARMENIAN.

Mexicans do that all the time.

They're famous models is all. No one takes them very seriously unless to discuss their body.

[Mos]

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#2) The Kardashians at the most basic definition are Armenian. When it comes to blood, they are (to be more technical) "part Armenian." Now, whether they have Armenian SELF-IDENTITY is another matter. Though the Kardashians are famous for their bodies instead of their culture, there is no real way of knowing how "Armenian" they feel they are.

How the hell are they Armenian? Please tell me a people who have grown up in a American household, with American values, with no knowledge of Armenia, Armenian culture, or language, how the hell are they Armenian!!! They are American wh*res, end of story! They are as much Armenian as I am Japanese. I wonder if their last name was Smith, would there be the same talk.

[Armanen]

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not always true.
but let's pretend for a moment that it is 100% true.
there are many people that say they're black. some of them don't look black. some of them i'm pretty sure aren't even black. but they swear somewhere in their family there is a black person, and they go and try to find who it is -so they can keep saying they're black.



Mexicans do that all the time.

They're famous models is all. No one takes them very seriously unless to discuss their body.

Not really fair or accurate to compare Armenian assimilation with Mexican similation. Armenia is a small nation, which less than 100 years ago suffered a genocide; 1/3 of world's Armenian population gone in a matter of 3-4 years. Furthermore, as I have often said, there is no culture which Armenia comes really close to, the closest are some of the fellow Cacausian peoples, and the Persians. However, Mexicans are part of a larger Latin culture which streches from the Rio Grande to Patagonia. I know there are differences between the various nations of Spanish Latin America, however, in comparison to Armenia and its neighborhood, they are close.

[KanadaHye]

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not always true.
but let's pretend for a moment that it is 100% true.
there are many people that say they're black. some of them don't look black. some of them i'm pretty sure aren't even black. but they swear somewhere in their family there is a black person, and they go and try to find who it is -so they can keep saying they're black.

Perhaps they they want to take advantage of affirmative action. Black is a colour, there are extremely dark skinned people from India. Just because they are black doesn't mean they are African. Haitians are also from Africa but they've been in Haiti for so many generations that they have no attachment to Africa. There are Indians in South Africa that have been there for 6 or 7 generations. A lot of people have been transferred against their will for slavery purposes. There are Indians in the West Indies, same thing.

To be Armenian requires a sense of being and attachment that comes from being raised by Armenians, observing their mannerisms and adopting the identity.

[Armanen]

Re: Add the kardashians to the famous Armenian section's description

Blood is important, but culture supercedes it.

[Mos]

Re: Add the kardashians to the famous Armenian section's description

Blood is important, but culture supercedes it.

Well how often you have a person with no Armenian blood being raised as an Armenian or having Armenian culture? If you have Armenian culture, there's 99.5% chance you have Armenian blood (and it being significant so >25%)

[KanadaHye]

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True story... I got a call from this girl from New York that was looking for her real mother. All she had to go by was her birth surname which was the same last name from my mom's side of the family. So she had looked up her last name and found my number. Anyways, this girl was abandoned at birth and adopted by an American couple. She also had a non related sister that was also adopted by the same couple so she grew up entirely American. Her mother was an Armenian immigrant from Turkey that migrated to America in the 70's, she was never married and gave birth to this girl as a single mother then gave her up for adoption. Throughout this young girl's life, she tried to find out about her past and who she was. What she ended up doing is researching middle eastern culture and she was actually belly dancing in New York apart from working other odd jobs. She was most likely 50% Armenian by blood but had no exposure to Armenian parents. Is identity carried by blood and genes? If she didn't have an Armenian last name and knew nothing about her birth mother, would she have any clue as to her Armenian ancestry? Of course not.

[Federate]

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Kanada did you keep in touch with her? You could help her exposure to Armenian culture.

[KanadaHye]

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Kanada did you keep in touch with her? You could help her exposure to Armenian culture.

No, she thought she had found relatives thinking I was one of them but I confirmed there was no relation and helped track down a couple other leads with the same last name living in the U.S..... one seemed like it could be her birth mother. She was the right age and had a former New York address which by then was shown to be living in Florida. I lost contact with her and I'm not sure if she pursued it or not.

[Mos]

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Is identity carried by blood and genes? If she didn't have an Armenian last name and knew nothing about her birth mother, would she have any clue as to her Armenian ancestry? Of course not.

How is identity carried by blood and genes? If an Armenian that was full blooded was born to Italian parents and never told about his "genes", you really think he would one day feel that he was Armenian? No he would always regard himself as Italian, never question, and right to do so, as he would be only Italian.

Tell me are Americans that have German blood but are 3rd or 4th generation, Germans?

A full blooded Armenian who knows nothing about armenian culture, doesn't have armenian mindset, etc if dropped in yerevan he will feel like a foreigner, he's not going to feel "at home" because of his DNA.