Add the kardashians to the famous Armenian section's description

[KanadaHye]

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and lastly about the bishi

I guess "bishi" is just a generic term used by Armenians for some kind of fried dough pastry in a sugar syrup. The only one I've known is the one my mom makes which is a ball of fried dough in a sugar syrup w/o any cinnamon, I think there's also some rose water in the syrup. I don't know where the word bishi comes from though, it doesn't seem to be Turkish or Arabic from what I gather, but if it's Armenians it's strange that many Armenians haven't heard of it or use some other word to describe the same thing.

I think the term "bishi" comes from India. I know Indians also call cheese "paneer".

Only other thing that would make sense is Mitsu-Bishi. Bishi means "water chestnut" and I suppose fried dough balls would look like water chestnuts but how would Armenians have come to use that term....

I was reading the Kardashian sisters were making an Armenian pancake.They called it BeeShee. Here is what Kourtney wrote maybe you can find and post the recipe as I have googled beeshee to no avail and she says she will not share the recipe as it's a family secret.

" 'making my famous Armenian breakfast called Beeshee. My grandmother on my dad’s side taught me how to make it and I am the only person in our family who knows how. You have to make it the night before, let the dough rise, and then prepare it in the morning, which Khloe always does. So we do it together as a team effort haha. Because it is a bit of a process, we only make it on special occasions, and every year for Father’s Day, my dad would ask us to make him Beeshee…and of course we always did. It is so delicious and fattening! It’s basically like a thin, crispy fried pancake that you pour tons of sugar on.’
Thanks”

http://www.thearmeniankitchen.com/20...-armenian.html

[Siggie]

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@ Siggie,

I'm not saying that we shouldn only associate ourselves with the Kardashian clan, by all means we will stil mention Cher and Aznavour and whoever else, I'm just saying that along with those famous Armenians we should also mention the Kardashians.

No one under the age of 30 cares about Cher, and most people in the English speaking world don't know or care about Aznavour. Even most sports fans don't care about Agassi, and with him you have Iranians and Assyrians saying he's their nationality too, and with Kirkorian, it's only us armos and business people who know or care about him. We need people to reach all demographics, and the Kardashian's certainly can reach people that other notable Armenians can't. The purpose of this site isn't just for Armenians to come talk, it's a public forum, everyone can read anything posted here without registering, and the site turns up in google searches so it's not just Armenians and the random middle easterner on here,

So maybe when a Kim fan who's googling "Kim Kardashian Armenia" or "Where is Armenia" or "Is Kris Jenner Armenian?" will accidentally come across this site, see the Kardashian name and be curious enough to wander through the forums pages, maybe even to the AG boards. This same reason applies on why I want "System of A Down" to be in the famous Armo section as opposed to Andre Agassi or Kirk Krikorian.

They'll get hits anyway from content. It's not going to add any to have them in the subforum description, but whatever... Create a poll with the most popular people (w/ multiple responses) and put it to a vote. I'll put like the top 4 or 5 in the subforum description.

[KanadaHye]

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Kim's Grandmother?

[Mos]

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As far as her being the only thing people will think of when they hear "Armenian" it's better her than nothing.

So you rather Armenians be associated with a dumb wh*re than not be known? Why make things worse when it can be neutral?.

Also I said I know she and her family are using their roots just to sell themselves, but it can be a symbiotic relationship as opposed to a parasitic one if we allow it to.

It is parasitic because they are exploiting a Armenian identity they have no right to.

As far as her actually stop using the name as a gimmick idk if that day will ever come, but I do agree that she'll eventually try to reinvent herself as time goes on by becoming more Armenian. She always says that she wants to do an Armenia trip with all her siblings, mom, etc, but things keep getting in the way (like Khloe and Lamar getting their own show that will air later this year), with all their different schedules but she hopes that they eventually can all do it.

I hope Armenian Government is smart enough to deny those idiots visas. I had read something years ago that said show producers wanted to film their trip to Armenia as they believe it would be like "Borat 2". So really their trip to Armenia would be so that they could mock Armenia and our people, in order for some cash. F*ck them - the only place they deserve to be is in the black ghettos of America.

[Armanen]

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Kim's Grandmother?

Scary!

[freakyfreaky]

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She met a primate of the Western Diocese of the Armenian Church and claimed she met the prime minister. Come on. If she saw Bako Sahakian she'd probably say see met Bean who forgot his toupe.

I mean she met Archbishop Hovnan Derderian and she represented that she met the prime minister of Armenia. She doesn't even know the identity of local Armenian demagogues. Its obvious that before 2009 she had never met or seen the primate as she could not properly identify him after having her photo taken with her. She's a vapid tool.

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_tAHE3je2P-4/SYWm2YttxlI/AAAAAAAAJ7Q/YeWnfmxb9vM/s400/Kim+Kardashian+and+Armenian+church+charity+event_Armenian+Reporter_31Jan09.jpg

[ara87]

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Kim's Grandmother?

That's her father's mother, Kim says she's full Armenian, which is not improbable for one we don't know if that's her actual hair color and even if it is, she could still be Armenian. There is a small percentage of fairer skinned, lighter hair and eye colored Armenians, who were born in an all Armenian family. There probably was a non Armenian in the mix generations back. But all Armenians probably have some odar in there family tree somewhere down the line.

So you rather Armenians be associated with a dumb wh*re than not be known? Why make things worse when it can be neutral?.

Yes, it's better to be known for something than nothing at all, even if that something is deemed bad. And while by Armenian standards kim might be a wh0re, but by American/European standards, she's just a celebrity socialite, and behaves like most other female celebrity socialites do. Remember her purpose is to bring attention to us in America and any other country she's famous in, not to be an actual celebrity in Armenia or anything.

Also Kim posts about other notable Armenian Celebs like "Cher" and "Mark Geragos" too, making a younger generation that's unaware that these people have Armenian backgrounds aware. So it's not like she's trying to be steal the spotlight from other Armenian celebrities

She met a primate of the Western Diocese of the Armenian Church and claimed she met the prime minister. Come on. If she saw Bako Sahakian she'd probably say see met Bean who forgot his toupe.

I mean she met Archbishop Hovnan Derderian and she represented that she met the prime minister of Armenia. She doesn't even know the identity of local Armenian demagogues. Its obvious that before 2009 she had never met or seen the primate as she could not properly identify him after having her photo taken with her. She's a vapid tool.

by "Bean" do you mean "Mr.Bean?" Also I had no idea what Bako Sahakian looked like until I just googled him and I doubt most Armenians in the diaspora even know who he is let alone what he looks like.


As for her saying Hovan Derderian was the prime minister, this is the quote from the official blog for that event. It's dated Jan 28, 2009

"Khloe, Rob and I went to meet Archbishop Hovnan Derderian of Armenia!

There was a charity event for the orphanages in Armenia and we went to support. We were taught how to greet the prime minister and also met Mark Geragos (he is a famous attorney who was friends with my dad)!

Anything we can do to lend our support to our heritage we gladly do!

We are dying to go to Armenia! Hopefully this year we will go! No one in my family has been back, and it’s really important to me that we go!

She has this posted with pictures of the event. I think maybe she just had a blond moment, and typed "learned to greet prime minister" instead of "learned to greet the primate," b/c for anyone who isn't an orthodox or catholic christian the only time the word primate is used is in biology to describe humans and monkeys. And even if she or any other Armenian went to an Armenian Orthodox church at all growing up, it's not like the word "primate" isn't exactly used at all, unless there's official church business being done in English.

And she clearly stated in the first sentence though that he was the archbishop.

Probably some other bloggers just misconstrued that second part and said she had met the prime minister when they reblogged it.
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Another reason to add the Kardashians to the description is that besides their show on E, and the new "Khloe & Lamar" show that will air this year,

Kourtney Kardashian will be guest staring on the ABC daytime soap opera, "One Life To Live." For at least one episode in march, they said she will not be representing herself, but will be playing a character, which always mean if she is received well she could be cast in more episodes and become a recurring character, or maybe even use this gig to land other acting roles. Her role on the show will bring her and her sisters more attention with women in the 18-49 demographic who are at home in the day

[gegev]

She is celebrity of the prostitutes/sinners.

For sure God would ask her/it following questions:

1. How many times did you rent your body to the black?
2. Does any customer violate your body parts usage terms, agreed upon in advance, and what was your reaction in that case & did you dare to reprimand the client?
3. How did you disinfect your parts after the intensive and violent usage, did you use chemical laundry services?
4. What part of your body proved to be most profitable and did you calculate the profit margins for each?
5. How many new clients did you get through your sex videos spread in the Internet?
6. How many male prostitutes you raped violently as a “revenge”, against those, who abused your body; while rented.

What’s the total amount you made in the business? It would be direct proportional to the sins you carried out ... alas ... my dirty lamb.

[freakyfreaky]

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Umm, Abp. Derderian is not from ARMENIA!!! And, he's not the prime minister.

Duh, any diaspora in the Los Angeles area could tell you that. He was born in Lebanon and lives in Southern California. She obviously never met or saw him before 2009 although she has lived in California all of her life.

[cmariee]

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I wonder if she has any actual knowledge of Armenian culture, or if she brings up her roots in order to sound different, exotic, and/or rare, since Armenian is not one of the more commonly encountered ethnicities in the United States. Either way, as much as some people here probably wouldn't want to admit it, for better or worse, the younger generation does often think of the Kardashians when they think of Armenians.