The sad state of affairs of the forum

[Anonymouse]

Re: Is Anonymouse a new Hitler?

Oh, who would think so? But it certainly seems that way, doesn't it? From a historical perspective....

Surely, I will be banned for this. However, having watched your posts over time, you are a little Hitler, Anonymouse. Nationalism, when taken to an extreme, becomes fascism. This is what you are - a fascist. Enough said.

I don't know where you have gotten around to knowing me to claim I am Hitler. However, I must say a few things.

(1) I am very Armenian-conscious and pro-Armenian.

(2) I have had my fair share of discussions about Israeli, Zionism, Joos (and yes I agree with Sip, sometimes it does get a little too much in here, but I also agree to disagree with Sip on many things and we are still cool - I think).

(3) If you know anything about me, you will know I am the last person to call myself a fascist. Because you don't know me you are being an idiot.

(4) Since when has love of ones own people and history become tantamount to fascism? I deplore fascism in all its manifestations.

(5) Your inability to distinguish the nuances between all these "isms" that you proclaim to know and label me with is the sad state of affairs of most Armenians who confound love of ones own as unhealthy fascism.

(6) You're an idiot.

[Sip]

Re: Why the hell is the armenian club chatroom a ghost town

On the other hand, I really can't understand those Armos who get hurt and go ballistic as soon as someone pronounces the 'J' word or attempts to criticize them, those who themselves happen to be the biggest AG deniers (besides Turks). Why?? They don't even give a damn about anti-Armenian remarks or actions, Sip. So Why do some Armenians' eyes water every time someone criticizes them? Why should we as Armenians get upset about the smallest 'anti-hrya' comments? And why just an image is so disturbing to you?

Lucin, there is criticizing Israel and jews and then there is glorifying Hitler. Do you really think the two are the same?

Another example is criticizing US policy in regards to Iran and glorifying fundamental Islam upon which the current Iranian administration is based on .. do you really think those two are also the same?

For a while Armenian was going around babbling about how he loves Islam and long live Islam and stuff like that. Fortunately he stopped doing it after we had a little chat. It is one thing to hate the US but you can't let that hate translate to an immediate love for fundamental Islam (as if that is somehow what Iran is all about?).

Similarly, you can hate Israel all you want (I can guaranty you I am NOT a fan of Israel by ANY means) but you can't let that hate manifest itself as somehow trying to glorify Hitler just because he hated the same thing.

Am I making sense? You see Virgil and Armenian are the only ones bleeding from their eyes here ... I have NEVER indicated anything that says I think what the xxxs have done, are doing, or will do as somehow being justified but I am at the same time NOT going to start spewing oh the Holocaust is a lie or that Hitler was awesome. That is what I mean by Nazis pretending to care about Armenian stuff as they show up under the umbrella of "Armenian nationalism" and about 99.9% of their agenda revolves around the Hrya state.

[Armenian]

Re: Is Anonymouse a new Hitler?

Hitler was as crazy like hell, he was brilliant but crazy like hell. If he was a little bit normal than maybe people could think of him like alexander. But now he is a evil himself.

Had he won the war he would have been considered to be a savior. The reason why he is "evil" is primarily because he 'lost' the war and he had the nerve to stand up to international Communism, Jewry and the world's financial elite.

Nazis maybe were good in the past. But now the only nazis I see are crazy kids or real retards who don't even know what Htiler stood for and what he wanted to accomplish. So because of those people nazis has become a xxxxed up thing.

A very correct statement. Generally speaking, modern day wannabe "Nazis" are nothing but a bunch of mentally retarded, emotionally scarred street punks. Nothing good can come out of associating with them. Let's not confuse what they do in the streets to what National Socialism was able to accomplish in Germany during the 1930s.

The only su leader that opresed Armenians was stallin after stallin was dead Armenians lived their lives in peace and harmony,

Correct. So why do you think these pathetic individuals get bent out of shape over Nazis and not Stalin - not even Young Turks, as a matter of fact?

Who knows what could have happened if Hitler won the WWII, would he have given dro the power to go and conquer our lands back. Or given Turkey the permission to invade and destroy evreything we had. I gues we'll never know what would have happened.

This is a guessing game. However, I am sure the Germans would 'not' have given anything to Turks, especially a strategically important area like the Caucasus. In my opinion, they would have either administered the Caucasus themselves or prop up regional nations allied to Germany. This is where the great Armenian heroes Drastamat and Njhteh would have played a monumental role.

Two notes:

There has been some talk recently about a German war plan at the time to invade Turkey from the Caucasus.

Also, the talk about Germans allowing the Turks to invade Armenia to finish off what they didn't in 1915 was nothing but Bolshevik propaganda meant to encourage Armenians to fight Germans.

The worst thing that came out of WWII was the American atomic bomb, without that our lands would e free now.

The worst thing that came out of the Second World War was the superpowers of the Soviet Union, the United States and the Zionist State.

The aforementioned are the roots of all the problems on earth today and the deaths of tens of millions of people across the world.

[Armenian]

Re: Is Anonymouse a new Hitler?

Hey Anon new forum rule?? No obnoxiously large linked images of hitler mmmkay?

How about these mass-murdering characters?

Genghis Khan and George Bush

Can we post images of them without your type foaming at the mouth?

How about these mass murdering characters?

Enver Pasha

Talaat Pasha

Joseph Stalin

For the sake of your intellectual integrity are you willing to put a ban on their images as well? I seriously doubt it.


So, why single out Adolph Hitler for persecution? A person who incidentally did not harm a single Armenian living in the German occupied territories.

Adolph Hiler

I think you people are brainless robots, and sad victims of mass societal manipulation.

[Armenian]

Re: Why the hell is the armenian club chatroom a ghost town

Perhaps the wisest commentary here. This matter is not about "Nazis," it is not even about Jews as a matter of fact. This whole ordeal is primarily about objectivity, logic, our national priorities and a healthy political perspective amongst us Armenians. Sadly, the "Sip" types make up the majority of the American-Armenian community today. No one will be able to change that. They are the sad by-products of American "pop" culture. This is the sad reality. The least these people think the happier they are. These sad folk are programmed robots, and they will remain so until their eventual demise.

So? Your analogy doesn't make sense to me. When have Nazis showed up here? Maybe before?? In any case, I am for anything that would be beneficial to Armenian people and Armenia. Obviously, today this Nazi thing, 'white' supremacy and other 'white' nationalist movements run by some troubled individuals, with no precise objective/ goal, are not being taken seriously these days and cannot contribute in any way to Armenian affaires in my opinion. So, I see no reason why Armos should be involved in such lines if it is of no use to Armenians, today. On the other hand, I really can't understand those Armos who get hurt and go ballistic as soon as someone pronounces the 'J' word or attempts to criticize them, those who themselves happen to be the biggest AG deniers (besides Turks). Why?? They don't even give a damn about anti-Armenian remarks or actions, Sip. So Why do some Armenians' eyes water every time someone criticizes them? why should we as Armenians get upset about the smallest 'anti-hrya' comments? And why an image is so disturbing to you?

[KarotheGreat]

Re: Is Anonymouse a new Hitler?

No Annon is not a new hitler.

Hitler was as crazy like hell, he was brilliant but crazy like hell. If he was a little bit normal than maybe people could think of him like alexander. But now he is a evil himself. Nazis maybe were good in the past. But now the only nazis I see are crazy kids or real retards who don't even know what Htiler stood for and what he wanted to accomplish. So because of those people nazis has become a xxxxed up thing.

The only su leader that opresed Armenians was stallin after stallin was dead Armenians lived their lives in peace and harmony, They even became one of the richest parts of the SU in the 80. So the bolshiveks were not that really bad for Armenian in the long run.

Who knows what could have happened if Hitler won the WWII, would he have given dro the power to go and conquer our lands back. Or given Turkey the permission to invade and destroy evreything we had. I gues we'll never know what would have happened.

The worst thing that came out of WWII was the American atomic bomb, without that our lands would e free now.

[Lucin]

Re: Why the hell is the armenian club chatroom a ghost town

I have said this before and will say it again: I don't know which one is worse ... Turks that show up openly denying the Genocide or the Nazis that show up and pretending they give a damn about Armenians.

So? Your analogy doesn't make sense to me. When have Nazis showed up here? Maybe before??

In any case, I am for anything that would be beneficial to Armenian people and Armenia.
Obviously, today this Nazi thing, 'white' supremacy and other 'white' nationalist movements run by some troubled individuals, with no precise objective/ goal, are not being taken seriously these days and cannot contribute in any way to Armenian affaires in my opinion. So, I see no reason why Armos should be involved in such lines if it is of no use to Armenians, today.

On the other hand, I really can't understand those Armos who get hurt and go ballistic as soon as someone pronounces the 'J' word or attempts to criticize them, those who themselves happen to be the biggest AG deniers (besides Turks). Why?? They don't even give a damn about anti-Armenian remarks or actions, Sip. So Why do some Armenians' eyes water every time someone criticizes them? Why should we as Armenians get upset about the smallest 'anti-hrya' comments? And why just an image is so disturbing to you?

[Lamb Boy]

Re: Is Anonymouse a new Hitler?

It's not just this thread Crusader ...

Normally Armenian is relatively cool but it seems your catalyst for everything you say here now stems from the "awesome and great" Virgil. I truly mean that too ... ARMO.

Oh by the way you can't shut me up or tell me what to say in case you are wondering, in the future Virgil ...

Just as general advice I wouldn't go around calling people names just as you two did to Sip. Especially if you enjoy having a place to share your lame thoughts.

Both of you look like you went to Communists-R-Us and got a lifetime supply of red ...

I've never met two Armenians so into fighting with other Armenians. If this is your strategy to make a " New Great and Powerful Armenian Nation" you've already lost.

Anyone here agree with me? Who would want to join the Virgil and Armenian Club? Anyone? Quick show of hands ...

Let's see how many people respond and then maybe you two can gauge how much Armenians here care about what you have to say! Get ready to suck down some pride ... lmao

Extremism never will attract the majority ... meaning you will never win this "cultural war" you are battling by behaving the way you are. …

[crusader1492]

Re: Is Anonymouse a new Hitler?

What the hell happened to this forum? Really sad to see such a once great forum having turned into such a rediculous dump. I poop on this thread (I hope the REAL anonymouse reads the last sentence).

Note that I am by no means blaming moderators or admins. A forum is only a reflection of its users and right now, I much rather poop on it than read it.

We get it, you don't like xxx talk...can we move on now?

[Virgil]

Re: Why the hell is the armenian club chatroom a ghost town

As demonstrated over and over and over, people very soon get sick of spam. A forum full of spam will INEVITABLY lose all its valuable members. Recently, all you see here is jew this and jew that and Israel this and Israel that. Most people who visit such forums are either interested in connecting with fellow Armenians or trying to learn about relevant Armenian issues. The jew talk, although interesting and relevant at times, gets VERY boring after a while ... especially when you show up and there are like 10 threads on the same nonsense over and over and over.

Worst of all it's always the same few that just go on defending each other and after a while get the feeling that their own poop don't stink.

And there is NOTHING wrong with attracting young and fresh members with car talk, rap, and humor and hoping they will stick around and occasionally read the more "intellectual" (note this is not equivalent to "jew bashing") threads. I really despise the "snobish" attitudes of those who somehow consider themselves superior to everyone else and almost immediately alienate anyone who might not be deemed as intellectually superior as they are. We need to retain new members (not the obvious Turkish trolls of course) and telling them "car talk" and "humor" is not welcome is not a good way to do it IMO.

There is an appropriate section for everything and everything has it's time and place.

Wow, talk about the teapot calling the kettle black? Every post anyone has made with regards to the events you are refering to has been in the appropriate sections, don't accuse people of imaginary violations, you post a opinion, people respond or they don't, you don't have to read my comments, you don't have to respond to them.

But you know what ticks me off though is when you write, "A forum full of spam will INEVITABLY lose all its valuable members", xxxx you, your ideas are as much of a "spam" as mine or anyone elses and I am as valuable as your degenerate ass is, the only differences is that because you are getting crushed under the intellectual weight of certain comments you are now acting like I or any like minded individuals are the "big bad wolf" and you are "little red riding hood", however, 9 times out of 10 you are the one that verbally attacks members with one liners.

Understand, I did not violate you and if you have read my posts not once have I insulted anyone including you. If I were to post somthing along the lines, "Yeah, I am dating a Alien and having threesome with a Zebra", you would be a the first one to compliment on my post and it would not be considered "spam", but because I talk about somthing beyond your sphere of understanding you try to ostersize me and likeminded individuals because our ideas don't sit well in your head, which is fine, but don't accuse me of spamming the board with "reduncy". If it was "reduncy" I would not have to post them on the board, now would I? No I wounld not.

On the other hand, you are the one that continually camp posts and insult every idea that is not part of mainstream liberal ideology, if even that, at least liberals defend some values. You don't even contribute to any discussion, all you do is write some "one line" just to derail the thread because it does not fall in, for a lack of a better description, the "liberal mainstream". IF anyone contributes to derailing threads its you and your little mafioso members that try to attack moderators and conservative members for their views, I am not stupid I know you send comments to the moderators instead of having the decency to comment with sound intellectual ideas.

The bottomline is you can post in what ever section you want to post in, we live in a United States and this is a American forum based on American values, this includes freedomw of speech. Furthermore, anybody that wants to "connect" with one another can connect, you are older enough to avoid political discussion if you don't have the intellectual capacity to participate in them. I don't have a gun to your head forcing you to read my posts.


Spam my ass, half the time the topic gets derailed because you derail it and spew out the same garbage some jackass like Bill O'Rielly or Bill Muer would say, by the way, you don't have tolerate the truth for much longer, I just came here to raz some members and be a counterweight to degenerate ideas because no one is saying anything either because they are afraid of you or people like or they are shy.

Its funny, after reading your comments its no suprise to find Armenians in this state, after 90 years we still have are heads in our asses and on the base level can not even adhere to a single value that are forefathers passed on to us, is it suprising that our state and people is in shambles? Turks put people like Ataturk on pedistal, they worship them and in the process develop a nation into one of the most successful nations of the 21th century and one grounded in a sollid vision of the respective leader (one vision fueled by nationalism), however, Armenians take their nationalist and leaders, put them in boxes, silencing them in the process, and worship false idols with the same mindset as Siphan, which essentially is the mindset of a nillist that defends no core Armenian and or human values, there is not one post where you have ever defended a traditional Armenian values, instead, you replace culture and traditional values with emptyness.

Admit it Siphan, you value nothing, at least I value somthing and am willing to defend these values, enough said, no more replies.

However, I agree with you that anyone should be able to post anything and anywhere, I don't care what you post, but as long as I post my opinions in politics section, you have the option of joining the discussion or you can just avoid it or sit at the sidelines, but don't accuse of being "fascist" or some ridiculous nonsense like that. Likewise, no one has a right to limit the posting, I think Armenian is motivated by the intolerant views with regards serious discussion, we can post about meaningless reduncies like "Britney Spears" and the rest of half wits in Hollywood, but we get crusified for talking about meaningful events and view points, face it, even here a double standard is placed on views.