Are Armenian women handicapped because of their upbringing?

[meline]

Re: Are Armenian women handicapped because of their upbringing?

I am an old woman, born in France in1925, from armenian parents. We lived in a house of refugees
60 families, all survivors of genocide. All Armenians. When we were children we used to play together,
boys and girls, in the garden behind the house, we were not allowed to go in the street.
But when I was 12, my mother said to me : now you cannot play with boys.
I went to French school. I worked very well at school. As my father died young , I was the eldest and had to work. My aunt did not want her daughters work outside, they had to work at home. I found jobs in offices.
All the Armenian young men of the house married French girls, because they thought we were old minded.
We were half old minded, and half influenced by our French education at school.
One of my French colleague’s was delighted to meet me, as I was serious.
His parents first were disappointed, as they wanted a French daughter –in-law from their town. But they changed quickly their mind when they knew me and my family. My husband always loved me.

I guess you are the same Kiffer I know from the French forums, so chapeau!!! (bows) !!! And thanks for the post! Like everything else you have written it's clear, unambiguous and sincere! Really happy that you are here!

[bell-the-cat]

Re: Are Armenian women handicapped because of their upbringing?

I am an old woman, born in France in1925, from armenian parents. We lived in a house of refugees
60 families, all survivors of genocide. All Armenians. When we were children we used to play together,
boys and girls, in the garden behind the house, we were not allowed to go in the street.
But when I was 12, my mother said to me : now you cannot play with boys.
I went to French school. I worked very well at school. As my father died young , I was the eldest and had to work. My aunt did not want her daughters work outside, they had to work at home. I found jobs in offices.
All the Armenian young men of the house married French girls, because they thought we were old minded.
We were half old minded, and half influenced by our French education at school.
One of my French colleague’s was delighted to meet me, as I was serious.
His parents first were disappointed, as they wanted a French daughter –in-law from their town. But they changed quickly their mind when they knew me and my family. My husband always loved me.

"The past is a foreign country: they do things differently there."

Though it used to be that the past was 50 years ago. Now the past becomes "foreign" in less that 20 years.

[Anoush]

Re: Are Armenian women handicapped because of their upbringing?

Thanks Anoush jan!

Vochinch Saco jan!

[Sako]

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Saco, are you kidding me? I mean seriously, what has it got to do with the government??

*sigh* Please don't ask me to answer that, Lucin jan. I've answered it like 8 times already in two days, lol. When you come here, you'll understand. I don't say anything without knowing what I'm talking about. I'm not saying we should COMPLETELY blame the gov. but they have a big share of blame on their shoulders. A very big share.

Briefly said, they don't allow the Armenian people to BREATHE properly. The gov. emotionally breaks our people down in many ways so the drinking naturally increases.

...Our people have lost their patience and think about only one thing most of the time...how to find food so that their families can survive. They don't have time to think about anything else and get angry very easily. It's a very difficult situation and I blame the gov. mostly. I have my reasons and I've lived here for many years so you can more or less trust me...

You have to go deep into our current situation to understand why so many things happen every day so don't look at what I say in such a primitive way.

[Lucin]

Re: Are Armenian women handicapped because of their upbringing?

And the main reason men drink and all is because of the gov.

What your saying is right when your talking about a small minority and IF there are any problems you mentioned, it's because of the gov.

Saco, are you kidding me? I mean seriously, what has it got to do with the government??

[Sako]

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Thanks Anoush jan!

[Anoush]

Re: Are Armenian women handicapped because of their upbringing?

Regarding being "old minded", could someone please tell me what that means? If someone has boundaries, respects tradition, and lives like a normal person rather then a fool, why is he/she "old minded"? I get so pissed when I hear this. Who the hell came up with that phrase anyways?I'd rather be "old minded" then "DEAD minded" like most in the US!

You are dead right!

[Anoush]

Re: Are Armenian women handicapped because of their upbringing?

Kiffer it's so nice to hear your life story. We love you to have you hear and thank you for this story.

[Sako]

Re: Are Armenian women handicapped because of their upbringing?

[quote]I am an old woman, born in France in1925, from armenian parents. We lived in a house of refugees 60 families, all survivors of genocide. All Armenians. When we were children we used to play together, boys and girls, in the garden behind the house, we were not allowed to go in the street. But when I was 12, my mother said to me : now you cannot play with boys. I went to French school. I worked very well at school. As my father died young , I was the eldest and had to work. My aunt did not want her daughters work outside, they had to work at home. I found jobs in offices. All the Armenian young men of the house married French girls, because they thought we were old minded. We were half old minded, and half influenced by our French education at school. One of my French colleague’s was delighted to meet me, as I was serious.
His parents first were disappointed, as they wanted a French daughter –in-law from their town. But they changed quickly their mind when they knew me and my family. My husband always loved me.[quote/]

Madam, it is nothing more or less then an honor to have you with us here. Thank you for your post .

Regarding being "old minded", could someone please tell me what that means? If someone has boundaries, respects tradition, and lives like a normal person rather then a fool, why is he/she "old minded"? I get so pissed when I hear this. Who the hell came up with that phrase anyways? I'd rather be "old minded" then "DEAD minded" like most in the US!

[Anush]

Re: Are Armenian women handicapped because of their upbringing?

Wow I am not sure if I should even start to respond to one of these thread topics again...remembers last year and the muffin postings...BUT man do I want to.