Are Armenian women handicapped because of their upbringing?

[bell-the-cat]

Re: Are Armenian women handicapped because of their upbringing?

I'm not familiar with the culture of this forum, but I have noticed that issues of importance to Armenian women are seldom discussed.

I think that Armenian women are "handicapped" when compared to women of other cultures, not all cultures. For instance, Armenian women are forced to kill the little charmer in them and end up unlearning how to seduce and/or feel guilty about it. A form of excision? Sadly, some compensate for the loss use their body and/or a behavior with sexual connotations to charm and seduce, as I see it charm has nothing to do with body or sex. Others become easy victims of the first boy who does the clown and promises them the moon.

There's also domestic violence and/or its milder form i.e. "silencing" in one way or another those who dare to stand up for themselves.

The worse part is that I don't think that the situation changed much, and many young girls are still victim of the same oppressive values.
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Would you go to a virulent pro-Islamic forum and expect to get a realistic reply about the position of women in Islamic society. Probably not. So be equally realistic about the chances of getting a realistic reply here.

Within families, sections of diaspora societies tend to be even stricter in their social taboos than in their homelands - some people seem to get more fanatical the more distant they are from the source of their fanaticism - whereas other sections of the very same diaspora will tend to go out of their way to loose the more negative aspects of their culture, while still retaining and cherishing the best bits. In this forum, it is mostly the former type.

Nor are there many Armenians from Armenia here, and I don't recall ever seeing any female Armenians from ROA on this forum. But there is plenty of data online about the oppressed status of many women in Armenia (along with plenty about the oppressed status of many Armenians in ROA regardless of their sex).

BTW, I think it was this forum, but I remember one Armenian male poster who got really rabidly angry when he found out that his (Armenian) girlfriend was also posting in the same forum. She was told by her boyfrend not to post any more, and left a message to that effect (or he left it). Anyone remember that incident?

[Sako]

Re: Are Armenian women handicapped because of their upbringing?

I am Armenian and your assumptions are wrong, and I'm not basing my views on a handful of cases. I understand why it may offend you, but that's how it appears to me and that's what I think.
Armenian woman do not "sweep a man off his feet" as easily and as often as you seem to think, they simply have an advantage when it comes to Armenian men, but that should not be attributed to their charms.

I think it's time I step in. Listen Kattie, first off, I'm a pure Armenian brother born here in Armenia. I've lived in India for ten years, in America for five, and another five here in Armenia so I've met almost every type of person in my life and I understand your confusion and/or way of thinking. I've answered these types of questions on more occasions then I can remember but I'll try to keep this short.

I don't know where you get your views from but their wrong mostly. In certain respects, your right, Armenian women aren't American girls (thank God) but they aren't what you think they are either. They aren't oppressed. They simply have boundaries. They don't get down with every guy around the block, they don't have hundreds of "boyfriends", they don't dis their families, etc. In America, girls go with the "I'm free, I can do whatever the xxxx I want" way of life and that's why, you can see ten year olds having sex around the corner and then going to school and letting their classmates know how "cool" it felt. Armenian girls have standards. Armenian girls have boundaries. That doesn't make them oppressed. That makes them more appealing, more respectful, and more of a women then a xxxxx. I'm not saying all our girls are perfect, there are women that feel down and are disrespected or don't act right at times but you can see this in every country.

In general though, Armenian girls are very serious, study very hard (something American girls need to learn how to do), go to parties, and do stuff girls normally do. They don't live in the dark ages. People from abroad come to Yerevan, get married, and leave for crying out loud. Why? Because Hay akhchiku ... AKHCHIKA ... vochte kats.

And regarding whether or not Armenian girls are attractive or not. Haha, honey, let me put it this way. Armenian girls were PRIZED in the past and are still very respected (and still prized, believe it or not). They can make any man turn around with one look and I wouldn't trade them for any lass in the world. They are hard working, have great taste when it comes to fashion, keep a family together, set an example for their children, are simply gorgeous, are very loving and emotional, and have very high standards. What's missing??? I can keep goin on and on. Western girls are just ... CHICK's ... compared to our girls.

Are you talking about women in Armenia or Armenian women everywhere? Armenian women in the US enjoy a number of the freedoms and powers offered to them thanks to the womens movement in general (in the west). Of course there are still those who may still be handicapped by traditional mindsets in their households, but that is very quickly evaporating away. In Armenia itself, I don't know.

The reason America is xxxxed today is because it doesn't have any mindsets at all except FREEDOM. What the xxxx is that? I don't appreciate how people look down at our traditions and/or way of living. What's wrong with them?!?!?

[KanadaHye]

Re: Are Armenian women handicapped because of their upbringing?

Are you talking about women in Armenia or Armenian women everywhere? Armenian women in the US enjoy a number of the freedoms and powers offered to them thanks to the womens movement in general (in the west). Of course there are still those who may still be handicapped by traditional mindsets in their households, but that is very quickly evaporating away. In Armenia itself, I don't know.

What are you talking about? The women's movement has further enslaved women... before their responsibilities were mainly taking care of the household and children during their child rearing years. Now they have to juggle work, daycare, household, run errands, etc. The women's movement was a clever way for society to disregard the work that goes into raising children by not associating a monetary value to it. I see this especially in the US where women don't even have the right for extended maternity leave and have to return to work in a short period of time.

[Pedro Xaramillo]

Re: Are Armenian women handicapped because of their upbringing?

If she thinks for one moment Armenian women are docile, she has not encountered iFemale and alot of the girls here, they don't take crap from anyone, especially Mindfreak
The charmer in her definitely is not gone and she most of the girls here wont stand for any silencing on charms (whether they be inner charm or Lucky Charms tm)

But this is generalization, you cannot base an entire opinion of an ethnicity on one or two people, in addition I know Kattie says she is Armenian, but what she must remember is that in very religious (traditionally) societies, patriarchy is often at the forefront of the day, I can compare Arabs, Japanese, hell even us as many men subscribe to the machismo bs, I know a dude who is Mexican himself and he refuses to let his wife work, as it will "femize" him, he is against abortion, hell even masturbation, in traditionally strictly religious cultures and even in non strictly religious ones, there will always be socially conservative people

I have never seen this docileness that Kattie claims, granted I have never met many Armenians in real life, but from those I know, none of them seem to be timid or scared litle things

I promise you, got to a Anglo Saxon baptist meeting, a strictly Protestant black family, a strictly Irish Catholic family or a traditional Japanese family and you will see all the same things, domestic abuse and silencing happens in every race and culture

The point is to be aware of it, even in liberal trendy bohemian society, there is abuse I can promise you that, do a scan and see for yourself

[KanadaHye]

Re: Are Armenian women handicapped because of their upbringing?

I am Armenian and your assumptions are wrong, and I'm not basing my views on a handful of cases. I understand why it may offend you, but that's how it appears to me and that's what I think.
Armenian woman do not "sweep a man off his feet" as easily and as often as you seem to think, they simply have an advantage when it comes to Armenian men, but that should not be attributed to their charms.

I need to go now, more later.

Since when do women "sweep a man off his feet"? If you're talking about attracting the pu$$y whipped westernized man then this whole post is useless, lol.

[iFemale]

Re: Are Armenian women handicapped because of their upbringing?

I am Armenian and your assumptions are wrong, and I'm not basing my views on a handful of cases. I understand why it may offend you, but that's how it appears to me and that's what I think.
Armenian woman do not "sweep a man off his feet" as easily and as often as you seem to think, they simply have an advantage when it comes to Armenian men, but that should not be attributed to their charms.

I need to go now, more later.

Offend? Haha! I do not position my intensity at a state of mind that is blinded to perceive the ethics of humanity as a whole, rather just pinning down the Armenian woman. Just because your genes have failed to detain such a fortune, that doesn’t mean an actual Armenian woman isn’t able to grasp the psyche of a man by her exquisite trail of charisma.

[Gavur]

Re: Are Armenian women handicapped because of their upbringing?

I'm not basing my views on a handful of cases.
I need to go now, more later.

When you come back, please tell us exactly why you are handicapped, or feel you're in danger of being, especially in US.

[Sip]

Re: Are Armenian women handicapped because of their upbringing?

Are you talking about women in Armenia or Armenian women everywhere? Armenian women in the US enjoy a number of the freedoms and powers offered to them thanks to the womens movement in general (in the west). Of course there are still those who may still be handicapped by traditional mindsets in their households, but that is very quickly evaporating away. In Armenia itself, I don't know.

[Kattie]

Re: Are Armenian women handicapped because of their upbringing?

'Kattie' - Now, I'm going to suggest you're white (a pure American breed) , based on your name. First off, since when did this "importance" become an "issue?"..according to who? You?


The only thing "handicapped" here is your mind failing to absorb the actual essence of the Armenian woman's aura.




Are you an Armenian woman? Even if you were, I am positive you're basing your entire judgment on one or two Armenian women, which is merely misguided. Truly, I don't know where to begin when it comes to an Armenian womans art of seduction. I am an Armenian woman with a valid Armenian heritage, therefore I can display my range of view. When it comes to charm and seduction, an Armenian woman can sweep a man off his feet by doing the most simplest daily things that which a pure American white-breed mind will probably fail to identify. As an Armenian woman, the magic begins with the way she carries herself toward the Armenian man. Once she exposes her delicacy and alluring shine, you'll melt like a snowcone in a freezer (which is hard to imagine).



Every culture, every race, every background has it's "domestic violence" and it's form of "silencing." You are basing this entirely on Armenian women who cannot speak up for themselves? Newsflash: Women in general fail to possess self-respect and then tend to bury themselves into that state of mind.




Just hope that one day you will be reincarnated as an Armenian woman. Only then, you shall pinpoint her boundless treasure.

I am Armenian and your assumptions are wrong, and I'm not basing my views on a handful of cases. I understand why it may offend you, but that's how it appears to me and that's what I think.
Armenian woman do not "sweep a man off his feet" as easily and as often as you seem to think, they simply have an advantage when it comes to Armenian men, but that should not be attributed to their charms.

I need to go now, more later.

[Gavur]

Re: Are Armenian women handicapped because of their upbringing?

I attest.