Armenians and Nazi Germany

[levon]

Re: The Nazi-Armenian Genocide

Are you kidding dude? I have already posted picture of Germans with Armenians... stop trying to be ignorant... yeah the Germans were really motivated to wipe out all Armenians they saw during WW2...

In the post that I quoted, you stated the following "in fact it is stated that Germans did not kill Armenians during WW2 when they saw them". Now, I'm asking you again, where is the peer reviewed article with historical facts where it is stated that "Germans did not kill Armenians during WW2 when they saw them"

[Catharsis]

Re: The Nazi-Armenian Genocide

There was 700,000 Georgian Soldiers in the Red Army... and 20,000 Soldiers in the Polish Army...

by the way you are right that there was J ews in the Wehrmacht..

Inflated number which is closer to 500,000 (about the same as Armenians) Georgians in the Red Army during WWII.

[KingOfYoz]

Re: The Nazi-Armenian Genocide

"Germans did not kill Armenians during WW2 when they saw them"

My friends father was in the German Army during WW2, he had talked with Germans in fighting with them.

you're propaganda will not fool me sir... Germans were not motivated to wipe out Armenians..

think about the 18 million Russians who died during WW2... In fact Germans killed more Russians and Georgians during WW2 then they did to Armenians.. because of the WW1 situation.

[levon]

Re: The Nazi-Armenian Genocide

My friends father was in the German Army during WW2, he had talked with Germans in fighting with them.

you're propaganda will not fool me sir... Germans were not motivated to wipe out Armenians..

think about the 18 million Russians who died during WW2... In fact Germans killed more Russians and Georgians during WW2 then they did to Armenians.. because of the WW1 situation.

If you're going to quote me, at least quote the part that I actually wrote. When you quote me by quoting a part of my post that I quoted from you, it just makes you look like a jackass.

I don't think you're old enough for your friend's father to have fought in WWII. My grampa and great-uncle both fought in WWII, and neither one said he felt safe because the Germans "didn't kill Armenians"

The only one spreading propaganda is you. But it's expected from a piece of turkish/azeri garbage such as yourself.

[KingOfYoz]

Re: The Nazi-Armenian Genocide

Inflated number which is closer to 500,000 (about the same as Armenians) Georgians in the Red Army during WWII

Yes, I mean think about it... Milton Kantaria was one of the heroes of the Soviet union who put the Soviet flag in Reichstag and he was Georgian..

[KingOfYoz]

Re: The Nazi-Armenian Genocide

I don't think you're old enough for your friend's father to have fought in WWII. My grampa and great-uncle both fought in WWII, and neither one said he felt safe because the Germans "didn't kill Armenians"

Exactly... they FOUGHT.. which is a big difference because the guy actually wanted to fight for the Germans unlike you're grandpa.. by the way learn how to spell.

If you think Germans wanted to kill Armenians during WW2 then you have absolutely no clue about the situation. I know many friends who said that there fathers did not receive any threats from Germans during WW2...

[Catharsis]

Re: The Nazi-Armenian Genocide

Yes, I mean think about it... Milton Kantaria was one of the heroes of the Soviet union who put the Soviet flag in Reichstag and he was Georgian..

Yeah, perhaps symbolically standing for Stalin, but who knows why he was chosen to do so. Armenians still had more generals and marshals, and as I said received highest awards - considerably more than the Georgians, Azeris or many nationalities of the USSR for that matter (proportion wise even higher than that of Russians, who fought bravely in their own right). But this is not a "pis*ing contest" between Armenians and Georgians or others, and is not my intent to turn it into such. I am just pointing out Armenian contribution to the victory in World War II and the liberation of Europe which you very insubstantially try to undermine.

[KingOfYoz]

Re: The Nazi-Armenian Genocide

Yeah, perhaps symbolically standing for Stalin, but who knows why he was chosen to do so. Armenians still had more generals and marshals, and as I said received highest awards - considerably more than the Georgians, Azeris or many nationalities of the USSR for that matter (proportion wise even higher than that of Russians, who fought bravely in their own right). But this is not a "pis*ing contest" between Armenians and Georgians or others, and is not my intent to turn it into such. I am just pointing out Armenian contribution to the victory in World War II and the liberation of Europe which you very insubstantially try to undermine.

Problem is I don't believe what you write of course after 60 years.. it's easy to say Generals/ Marshals yadda yadda.. don't try to fool me..

You said over a million and a half Armenians fought not to mention ( we were still recovering from the ( Genocide ) you really think I believe this baloney?

If anything we probably had the lowest number of soldiers in the Red Army probably 200,000 because of our population problem.

[Catharsis]

Re: The Nazi-Armenian Genocide

[QUOTE=KingOfYoz;286131]Problem is I don't believe what you write of course after 60 years.. it's easy to say Generals/ Marshals yadda yadda.. don't try to fool me..[quote]

You said over a million and a half Armenians fought not to mention ( we were still recovering from the ( Genocide ) you really think I believe this baloney?

You know what, it is really secondary what you "believe" you can even believe in flying spaghetti monsters. This will NOT change history though (luckily).

If anything we probably had the lowest number of soldiers in the Red Army probably 200,000 because of our population problem.

[hipeter924]

Re: The Nazi-Armenian Genocide

Let me give a list of places at the time that deliberately denied xxxs entry to their countries knowing full well that xxxs were being persecuted and killed:

North America
- Canada and the United States
South America
Britain
The Pacific
- Australia
- New Zealand

Yet all these places are not accused of being perpetrators of the Nazi Holocaust (even though they refused xxxs entry throughout the war and did nothing to help the xxxs in the war).

As for Occupied Europe they didn't have a choice, the government was conquered or a puppet ally of Nazi Germany, if they refused the order to send the xxxs to death it would be mean death for that puppet government, but saying that some government leaders did help xxxs in occupied Europe especially in Norway, Sweden, Denmark,Netherlands,etc despite this.

Finally Switzerland, and a few other nations (that were lucky enough not to be invaded by the Nazi's)...so if you ask is it possible some xxxs were sent to the Nazi death camps to stop their country being invaded perhaps. But I am very sceptical of these genocide accusations against Armenia, especially since it comes from Turkey and Azerbaijan.

But as for the Turkish Government they were delighted to help the Nazi's kill the xxxs, it meant getting rid of some the "enemies of Turkey" that they missed the chance of committed genocide against in the Armenian Genocide period.

Both Turkey and Israel deny this because if Israeli public knew the truth, the Israeli govt might find itself forced (by angry Israeli voters) to cut diplomatic relations with Turkey.

Edit: My error....if you see Catharsis post later on