What profit you expect?

[levon]

Re: What profit you expect?

Quoting from your post again.

All I got a say is that almost every Armenian I've encountered online has either been a delusional cu*nt, or one of those "hidden" tough guys who only acts "tough" when with 6 of his buddies, and only then it only lasts a few minutes. Though, that said, I've met some pretty decent people that happened to be Armenian.

Delusional cu*nts or internet tough guys don't recognise sources, even when they are give them.

Well, I'm glad you see things that way. Makes it easier for me to just always call you a fake. And, very nice, indirectly calling me a delusional cu*nt. Your discreetness baffles my existence.

[arakeretzig]

Re: What profit you expect?

I disagree, pride is not the same thing as honor and Muslims are NOT honourable people. The Muslims lack of empathy or social conscience is if anything a form of Narcissism.

Islam's core is built on racism and intolerance. It reminds me of fascism if anything.
If Armenia's government ever opens the border with Turkey and makes diplomatic relations with Turkey , It means the _ultimate_ treachery to our forefathers. By then, we might as well forget about the genocide..

[retro]

Re: What profit you expect?

Quite the contrary, It could be argued that Muslim societies have too much "honor". Although this a relative concept, consider for example the notion of 'honor killings' and any insult or suspected act burning of the Q'uran and how that manifests itself with the reactions of the poor masses.

But I would have agreed with you if you had substituted the word "honor" with "conscience". I believe a fundamental characteristic deficient in many muslim societies (but not just confined to muslims ones) is the presence of a strong social conscience.

I disagree, pride is not the same thing as honor and Muslims are NOT honourable people. The Muslims lack of empathy or social conscience is if anything a form of Narcissism.

[bell-the-cat]

Re: What profit you expect?

Please refrain from quoting my posts until you make it a habit to respond to my requests for sources. You have so far responded to zero of my requests, and so if you won't respond to my requests, please, don't respond to my posts that aren't even directed at you.

Quoting from your post again.

All I got a say is that almost every Armenian I've encountered online has either been a delusional cu*nt, or one of those "hidden" tough guys who only acts "tough" when with 6 of his buddies, and only then it only lasts a few minutes. Though, that said, I've met some pretty decent people that happened to be Armenian.

Delusional cu*nts or internet tough guys don't recognise sources, even when they are give them.

[levon]

Re: What profit you expect?

And, in the world of the internet, exactly the same is true of Armenians.

Please refrain from quoting my posts until you make it a habit to respond to my requests for sources. You have so far responded to zero of my requests, and so if you won't respond to my requests, please, don't respond to my posts that aren't even directed at you.

[Jos]

Re: What profit you expect?

I was told once that Islamic societies don't have the same concepts of personal honor / dishonor that Western societies have. A Muslim feels no moral need to apologise for whatever dishonorable crimes his father or grandfather did, or for what crimes other Muslims have done, or to make amends to the victims of those crimes. And if the victims of those crimes were not Muslim, then there was nothing particularly dishonorable there anyway.

Quite the contrary, It could be argued that Muslim societies have too much "honor". Although this a relative concept, consider for example the notion of 'honor killings' and any insult or suspected act burning of the Q'uran and how that manifests itself with the reactions of the poor masses.

But I would have agreed with you if you had substituted the word "honor" with "conscience". I believe a fundamental characteristic deficient in many muslim societies (but not just confined to muslims ones) is the presence of a strong social conscience. The unstated and intimate bond between individuals that may not be related to you, speak your language or be of the religion etc. Hence, the anger and exasperation of Armenians to Turkish denials are often seen as insensitivity and lack of honor. But in my opinion this is probably more due to a weak social conscience. As a party that had no personal involvement with the events, they feel no reason for any personal guilt and therefore any burdens on their conscience. It follows that they should now not be castigated for having a difference of opinion.

[Eddo211]

Re: What profit you expect?

^^^^you guys are right, Sunnies cannot grasp the concept of what it means to live with honor........however most Shiites do. For me this is one of their important differences.

[hrai]

Re: What profit you expect?

I was told once that Islamic societies don't have the same concepts of personal honor / dishonor that Western societies have. A Muslim feels no moral need to apologise for whatever dishonorable crimes his father or grandfather did, or for what crimes other Muslims have done, or to make amends to the victims of those crimes. And if the victims of those crimes were not Muslim, then there was nothing particularly dishonorable there anyway.

I read this same thing somewhere, Bell, though some people still try to deal with them as they would non-muslims.

[ArmSurvival]

Re: What profit you expect?

Turks killed the Armenians just like Armenains killed Turks.

So why is Anatolia 99.9% Muslim right now? Christians once made the majority of that region. If Armenians killed Turks in any significant capacity you would have some Christian regions in Turkey. The fact is you don't, so what you're saying is nothing but BS.

You also spoke a lot of falsehoods about the genocide. You said Armenians were being deported and not murdered. Is that why every source (German, Ottoman, Austrian, ETC) says clearly that Armenians were being slaughtered by Ottoman soldiers on the deportation marches to the desert?

And do you even bother to ask yourself why Turks deported Armenian women and children INTO THE DESERT, where nobody could survive? Ya they weren't trying to kill Armenians, they only deported women and children into the desert where theres no food and no water. How stupid do you think the world is to believe that?

One more thing. If Turks simply wanted to deport Armenians (into the desert ) and you're saying it was because of WWI... then answer this: Why did Ottomans massacre 300,000 Armenians from 1894-1896? Was that because of WWI? No, its because Turks created a culture of massacring their minority populations just for being non-Muslims which started long before WWI. You simply have too much pride to admit that your people created a culture where it was ok to torture and slaughter people, and take Christian babies from their families and pretend like it was normal behavior.

[retro]

Re: What profit you expect?

I was told once that Islamic societies don't have the same concepts of personal honor / dishonor that Western societies have. A Muslim feels no moral need to apologise for whatever dishonorable crimes his father or grandfather did, or for what crimes other Muslims have done, or to make amends to the victims of those crimes. And if the victims of those crimes were not Muslim, then there was nothing particularly dishonorable there anyway.

The moral dualism and rationalism of Occidentals is viewed as being a weakness by Middle Easterns and they exploit it. As they are insidious, hypocrites, who have a very uncultivated, primitive triblistic mentality.

A while ago I was talking to a half Finnish-Turkish girl and she told me that she had five siblings. That her Turkish father had managed to sire with five diffrent Finnish women. Muslims are like that and they use their fabricated Arab religion to justfy all sorts of immoral actions to themselves.

In Islam for example it's perfectly permissible for Muslim men to rape non-Muslim and they are so sexually frustrated. That they will do at the first available opportunity that presents it's self. Which is why nearly all the rapes in countries like France and Sweden are commited by Muslim men.