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  • UrMistake
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    Re: What profit you expect?

    Originally posted by bell-the-cat View Post
    I was told once that Islamic societies don't have the same concepts of personal honor / dishonor that Western societies have. A Muslim feels no moral need to apologise for whatever dishonorable crimes his father or grandfather did, or for what crimes other Muslims have done, or to make amends to the victims of those crimes. And if the victims of those crimes were not Muslim, then there was nothing particularly dishonorable there anyway.
    Hmm did not know that one i will try to find more about it,that will explain many differences we got with the Muslim societies,very interesting.

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  • bell-the-cat
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    Re: What profit you expect?

    Originally posted by hrai View Post

    turcs don't know meaning of honor/dishonor, if you did you couldn't contemplate the sentence above.
    I was told once that Islamic societies don't have the same concepts of personal honor / dishonor that Western societies have. A Muslim feels no moral need to apologise for whatever dishonorable crimes his father or grandfather did, or for what crimes other Muslims have done, or to make amends to the victims of those crimes. And if the victims of those crimes were not Muslim, then there was nothing particularly dishonorable there anyway.

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  • bell-the-cat
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    Re: What profit you expect?

    Originally posted by Musty View Post
    here is an irrevelant story ;
    my father died when i was 7 years old.after i lost him i had to start work work work work and work while also going to school.Now im 25 y/o i have my own weaving company as a reward of my hardwork from childhood (while you guys playing games) but besides this i had to forget my english education.If you cant see any intelligence or interesting in my words,it is because i have no proper english so i cant express myself.i wish i had great english but i dont feel guilty for not having it.Life is not fair enough.

    I have bad english but i see you can easily understand what im trying to say so what is the problem?I do not need your protection from being mauled.Waste your energy to be constructive about this issue not to ''rescue'' me from being mauled.
    and if you really think it is not worth to discuss anything with me you can be sure i can live without your comments or your existence
    You do not understand. I see no intelligent or interesting or original content within your posts. You confuse education with intelligence, and learned skills with wisdom. Wisdom and intelligence means having the ability to make knowledge and skills transferable. You may have the education and experience to recognise good bales of cotton fabric from bad ones, but because you do not use that education and experiece to help understand other subjects, you are here trying to sell us the history equivalent of rotten cotton. Maybe you really do not know that those bales are rotten.

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  • bell-the-cat
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    Re: What profit you expect?

    Originally posted by levon View Post
    All I got a say is that almost every Turk I've met has either been a delusional cu*nt, or one of those "hidden" tough guys who only acts "tough" when with 6 of his buddies, and only then it only lasts a few minutes. Though, that said, I've met some pretty decent people that happened to be Turkish.
    And, in the world of the internet, exactly the same is true of Armenians.
    Last edited by bell-the-cat; 09-19-2010, 11:56 AM.

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  • Sip
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    Re: What profit you expect?

    A lot of the discussions here are getting way off topic. There is no dispute about the facts of the Genocide. The only ones who deny it are the Turks for obvious reasons

    So again, it's not really about "profit" so much as Turkey's major interest in trying to totally deny facts as if somehow that will make things go away (as history has shown, things like this don't just go away).

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  • gegev
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    Re: What profit you expect?

    Originally posted by hrai View Post
    mustyoglu, read that sentence and read it 1.5 million times.

    turcs don't know meaning of honor/dishonor, if you did you couldn't contemplate the sentence above.

    Eddo, you're right though, a couple more posts from erdoganoglu and he'll be majoring (?) in English.
    Do you know any Turkish criminal who killed his neighbor took his land, home, property (P.S. out of about 200,000 cases) and then, all of sudden, returned it back w/o being forced or in compliance with a court sentence?

    The kind of creatures are only complying with brute force. No other argument is convincing for them. Look at Artsakh case ... they couldn’t object much ... pitiful crying/whining is the only reaction.
    Last edited by gegev; 09-19-2010, 03:48 AM.

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  • hrai
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    Re: What profit you expect?

    Originally posted by Musty View Post
    We dont flatter ourselves about killing Armenians but we also dont think its dishonorable.
    mustyoglu, read that sentence and read it 1.5 million times.

    turcs don't know meaning of honor/dishonor, if you did you couldn't contemplate the sentence above.

    Eddo, you're right though, a couple more posts from erdoganoglu and he'll be majoring (?) in English.

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  • hrai
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    Re: What profit you expect?

    Originally posted by Musty View Post
    We dont flatter ourselves about killing Armenians but we also dont think its dishonorable.If you were the ruler of the country and a big minority in your country were about to revolt against you while you were already in trouble with all the world and had to fight against 25 different nations,you would also deported the minorities that are about to revolt for theri independance.If Ottoman wouldn deport Armenians,with the provokes of EU and help of the Russia,Armenians would be a huge threat against Turks so we would have lost the world war so bad.
    I believe you're looking for sympathy here ! Wrong forum, wrong world, please leave.

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  • hrai
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    Re: What profit you expect?

    Originally posted by gegev View Post
    Does anyone know the exact statistics?
    Gegev, statistics are pointless. The easy answer is that however many turc/tatar....that's too many.
    They should all be back on their steppes.

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  • gegev
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    Originally posted by gegev View Post

    Some web-sites say there are 1.5M Turks/Tatars in Turkey. Out of 72M population 24M are Kurds 16M converted to Islam concealed Armenians and the rest - are half-breed Armenians, Greek, Assyrians, Persians etc.
    Does anyone know the exact statistics?

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