What profit you expect?

[gegev]

Re: What profit you expect?

mustyoglu, read that sentence and read it 1.5 million times.

turcs don't know meaning of honor/dishonor, if you did you couldn't contemplate the sentence above.

Eddo, you're right though, a couple more posts from erdoganoglu and he'll be majoring (?) in English.

Do you know any Turkish criminal who killed his neighbor took his land, home, property (P.S. out of about 200,000 cases) and then, all of sudden, returned it back w/o being forced or in compliance with a court sentence?

The kind of creatures are only complying with brute force. No other argument is convincing for them. Look at Artsakh case ... they couldn’t object much ... pitiful crying/whining is the only reaction.

[Sip]

Re: What profit you expect?

A lot of the discussions here are getting way off topic. There is no dispute about the facts of the Genocide. The only ones who deny it are the Turks for obvious reasons

So again, it's not really about "profit" so much as Turkey's major interest in trying to totally deny facts as if somehow that will make things go away (as history has shown, things like this don't just go away).

[bell-the-cat]

Re: What profit you expect?

All I got a say is that almost every Turk I've met has either been a delusional cu*nt, or one of those "hidden" tough guys who only acts "tough" when with 6 of his buddies, and only then it only lasts a few minutes. Though, that said, I've met some pretty decent people that happened to be Turkish.

And, in the world of the internet, exactly the same is true of Armenians.

[bell-the-cat]

Re: What profit you expect?

here is an irrevelant story ;
my father died when i was 7 years old.after i lost him i had to start work work work work and work while also going to school.Now im 25 y/o i have my own weaving company as a reward of my hardwork from childhood (while you guys playing games) but besides this i had to forget my english education.If you cant see any intelligence or interesting in my words,it is because i have no proper english so i cant express myself.i wish i had great english but i dont feel guilty for not having it.Life is not fair enough.

I have bad english but i see you can easily understand what im trying to say so what is the problem?I do not need your protection from being mauled.Waste your energy to be constructive about this issue not to ''rescue'' me from being mauled.
and if you really think it is not worth to discuss anything with me you can be sure i can live without your comments or your existence

You do not understand. I see no intelligent or interesting or original content within your posts. You confuse education with intelligence, and learned skills with wisdom. Wisdom and intelligence means having the ability to make knowledge and skills transferable. You may have the education and experience to recognise good bales of cotton fabric from bad ones, but because you do not use that education and experiece to help understand other subjects, you are here trying to sell us the history equivalent of rotten cotton. Maybe you really do not know that those bales are rotten.

[bell-the-cat]

Re: What profit you expect?

turcs don't know meaning of honor/dishonor, if you did you couldn't contemplate the sentence above.

I was told once that Islamic societies don't have the same concepts of personal honor / dishonor that Western societies have. A Muslim feels no moral need to apologise for whatever dishonorable crimes his father or grandfather did, or for what crimes other Muslims have done, or to make amends to the victims of those crimes. And if the victims of those crimes were not Muslim, then there was nothing particularly dishonorable there anyway.

[UrMistake]

Re: What profit you expect?

I was told once that Islamic societies don't have the same concepts of personal honor / dishonor that Western societies have. A Muslim feels no moral need to apologise for whatever dishonorable crimes his father or grandfather did, or for what crimes other Muslims have done, or to make amends to the victims of those crimes. And if the victims of those crimes were not Muslim, then there was nothing particularly dishonorable there anyway.

Hmm did not know that one i will try to find more about it,that will explain many differences we got with the Muslim societies,very interesting.

[retro]

Re: What profit you expect?

I was told once that Islamic societies don't have the same concepts of personal honor / dishonor that Western societies have. A Muslim feels no moral need to apologise for whatever dishonorable crimes his father or grandfather did, or for what crimes other Muslims have done, or to make amends to the victims of those crimes. And if the victims of those crimes were not Muslim, then there was nothing particularly dishonorable there anyway.

The moral dualism and rationalism of Occidentals is viewed as being a weakness by Middle Easterns and they exploit it. As they are insidious, hypocrites, who have a very uncultivated, primitive triblistic mentality.

A while ago I was talking to a half Finnish-Turkish girl and she told me that she had five siblings. That her Turkish father had managed to sire with five diffrent Finnish women. Muslims are like that and they use their fabricated Arab religion to justfy all sorts of immoral actions to themselves.

In Islam for example it's perfectly permissible for Muslim men to rape non-Muslim and they are so sexually frustrated. That they will do at the first available opportunity that presents it's self. Which is why nearly all the rapes in countries like France and Sweden are commited by Muslim men.

[ArmSurvival]

Re: What profit you expect?

Turks killed the Armenians just like Armenains killed Turks.

So why is Anatolia 99.9% Muslim right now? Christians once made the majority of that region. If Armenians killed Turks in any significant capacity you would have some Christian regions in Turkey. The fact is you don't, so what you're saying is nothing but BS.

You also spoke a lot of falsehoods about the genocide. You said Armenians were being deported and not murdered. Is that why every source (German, Ottoman, Austrian, ETC) says clearly that Armenians were being slaughtered by Ottoman soldiers on the deportation marches to the desert?

And do you even bother to ask yourself why Turks deported Armenian women and children INTO THE DESERT, where nobody could survive? Ya they weren't trying to kill Armenians, they only deported women and children into the desert where theres no food and no water. How stupid do you think the world is to believe that?

One more thing. If Turks simply wanted to deport Armenians (into the desert ) and you're saying it was because of WWI... then answer this: Why did Ottomans massacre 300,000 Armenians from 1894-1896? Was that because of WWI? No, its because Turks created a culture of massacring their minority populations just for being non-Muslims which started long before WWI. You simply have too much pride to admit that your people created a culture where it was ok to torture and slaughter people, and take Christian babies from their families and pretend like it was normal behavior.

[hrai]

Re: What profit you expect?

I was told once that Islamic societies don't have the same concepts of personal honor / dishonor that Western societies have. A Muslim feels no moral need to apologise for whatever dishonorable crimes his father or grandfather did, or for what crimes other Muslims have done, or to make amends to the victims of those crimes. And if the victims of those crimes were not Muslim, then there was nothing particularly dishonorable there anyway.

I read this same thing somewhere, Bell, though some people still try to deal with them as they would non-muslims.

[Eddo211]

Re: What profit you expect?

^^^^you guys are right, Sunnies cannot grasp the concept of what it means to live with honor........however most Shiites do. For me this is one of their important differences.