What profit you expect?

[UrMistake]

Re: What profit you expect?

It was a war that's why i dont feel dishonored.In every war women and children suffered.By your logic all wars are genocide.

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You must learn what means Genocide,please explain how can one call war the mass killings of its own citizens not other nations just your own neighbors not from other countries to put it simple?

You are the one with out logic here...

[Musty]

Re: What profit you expect?

Musty from ancient times Armenians were living in those lands,we had many invaders many liberations lot of enslavement our numbers always stayed low cause of that,but always one part of our big nation were managed to stay free never as hole.

Always one part were subject of others and divided but still populations grown rebellions have done we always remained at those lands,no mater what we managed to free our selfs rebuild our kingdoms,half of Byzantium emperors were Armenians backbone of army we Armenians,Honored in ranks both Greeks Persians and Romans, appreciated by Russians.
What you have in your Turkish history that are proud the most is done by Christians,so you and your brotherly Azeri have build a nation around a man God for one is called Ataturk and the other Aliev both took our music food and culture and claimed to be Ancient as we are having the right to stay at those lands but yet Assyrians still exist Pontus Greeks are still here,Russians remember and we Armenians will never Forget.

So you can see we have every right as owners of those lands of our homes and towns we were ALWAYS part of it.

First of all , historians (even armenian historians) do not know where Armenians came from.Some say their roots are from Urartu some say frigs or hittities.Maybe you tell me truth.
Armenians always been ruled by other nations and you still say Byzanties commanders and emperors were Armenian.Why Armenians never had their land in those years (while they were emperor of byzanties), before Turks arrived to Anatolia?The actual reason is you just could not take the responsbility of your own peoples freedom and lived under the command of various nations.You shouldve rised against Byzanties,Romans,Persians,Sassanids etc before dreaming to get some more lands from Turks now...Turks are not the reason that you failed to set up your own country.Turks are the last conquerors of these lands but not first.

In ancient history army and war was the key for freedom and more lands.All empires had many wars and killed many people to get more lands.So is that mean we should call all empires as genociders?

Anyway,Armenia never ruled these lands so you shouldnt demand.You shouldve demanded about 1600 years ago from Byzanties and Persians

[Musty]

Re: What profit you expect?

All I got a say is that almost every Turk I've met has either been a delusional cu*nt, or one of those "hidden" tough guys who only acts "tough" when with 6 of his buddies, and only then it only lasts a few minutes. Though, that said, I've met some pretty decent people that happened to be Turkish. But I have a feeling you don't fit into that category. So, which one are you Musty? Wait, I don't give a damn. Why don't you get lost cause I could care less about what a Turk like you thinks or says. Hey, I'm sure you understand this, siktir.

Your comment is full with hatred wow.

Yes , i know what ''siktir'' means.This word is very very useful for pathetic and cheap people since they are uncapable of speaking something useful.

[Musty]

Re: What profit you expect?

Guys, don't waste your energy on this one. not worth it.

Like one of you said you can consider me as an ant.Try to posion me so you may poison rest of the whole colony.Not worth to try?

Well,btw,this kind of comments does not make you kind,intelligent,famous,beloved or savior and hero of the Armenian people but demonstrates that you are disgrace of many wise and intelligent Armenian in this forum.

[Eddo211]

Re: What profit you expect?

It was a war that's why i dont feel dishonored.In every war women and children suffered.By your logic all wars are genocide.

Only a Turk can justify in his mind a planned extermination of its defenseless unarmed citizens as a justified act of a war.........what are you trying to achieve by opening this thread?

About PKK problem ;

-PKK is not a weak organization.Some EU countries supporting it so they get too much money with narcotics.At the moment money = power.Money is being used to attract and deceive more kurds to join PKK.
-Turkey can finish PKK but not forever because there will be Kurds that want independence so they can be provoked in any time soon.
-Turkish high-ranked military officers,generals do not actually want to finish PKK completely.TSK(Turkish army) dont want to lose its importance in Turkey so not finishing PKK favors TSK.

Armenians are threat now you are right , and they were in world war , thats why deportation happened.

Yes
Ocalan control PKK.....Deep State control Ocalan.

Obviously you are not a Kemalist since you seem to be OK with your Turkish soldiers being sacrificed by your state to maintain this conflict while your Kurdish minorities are beaten down. Are you still giving them weapons too that kills your brothers?

[UrMistake]

Re: What profit you expect?

First of all , historians (even armenian historians) do not know where Armenians came from.Some say their roots are from Urartu some say frigs or hittities.Maybe you tell me truth.
Armenians always been ruled by other nations and you still say Byzanties commanders and emperors were Armenian.Why Armenians never had their land in those years (while they were emperor of byzanties), before Turks arrived to Anatolia?The actual reason is you just could not take the responsbility of your own peoples freedom and lived under the command of various nations.You shouldve rised against Byzanties,Romans,Persians,Sassanids etc before dreaming to get some more lands from Turks now...Turks are not the reason that you failed to set up your own country.Turks are the last conquerors of these lands but not first.

In ancient history army and war was the key for freedom and more lands.All empires had many wars and killed many people to get more lands.So is that mean we should call all empires as genociders?

Anyway,Armenia never ruled these lands so you shouldnt demand.You shouldve demanded about 1600 years ago from Byzanties and Persians

Well for start we exist as Armenians from 2492 BC.But as before creation of Greece we are emerged from different civilizations.

The idea of nationhood are more modern as you think turk,back then things worked different,in your false logic Greeks were also slaves of Byzantine empire.
One empire that Armenians with Greeks ruled for you is enslavement?
You know nothing of history please study more about the matter then post your bastardized generalization that you may learned in anti-armenian turkish schools.

[Musty]

Re: What profit you expect?

You must learn what means Genocide,please explain how can one call war the mass killings of its own citizens not other nations just your own neighbors not from other countries to put it simple?

You are the one with out logic here...

I know what genocide is.

Ottomans was not a pure nation country was including many minorities unlike Armenia at the moment - Armenia's population is %99 Armenians and %1 others right? - That's why Armenians cant understand Ottomans' apprehension about their territorial integrity.

All empires did the same thing , killed or deported rebelling minorities in order to save their lands.Even Armenians have been exiled by the most nation they lived with after a while.Armenian wanted independance - which is a normal human right - so they always been exiled to different places.

Btw it was a deportation , not a mass killing.

[Musty]

Re: What profit you expect?

Only a Turk can justify in his mind a planned extermination of its defenseless unarmed citizens as a justified act of a war.........what are you trying to achieve by opening this thread?



Yes
Ocalan control PKK.....Deep State control Ocalan.

Obviously you are not a Kemalist since you seem to be OK with your Turkish soldiers being sacrificed by your state to maintain this conflict while your Kurdish minorities are beaten down. Are you still giving them weapons too that kills your brothers?

Please do not twist my words.I am and all Turks of course not ok with Turkish soldiers being sacrificed to keep important commanders of the army.Kurdish minorities that being killed are the ones that have weapons.Turks are not giving any weapon to PKK btw.

[Eddo211]

Re: What profit you expect?

.Turks are not giving any weapon to PKK btw.

It was leaked to the outside world long before your current ongoing Engrekon investigations.

BTW, don’t let Armenian demands to give land back (Wilsonian Armenia ) get you all down, we know we will have to beat it out of you when the time comes like in Karabagh. Ancient people who have survived the test of time can be very patient.........remember any state that exists based on lies is doomed to fail sooner or later.

Why you avoid my questions Turk?

Have you noticed that your English has been getting better by each post?

[Musty]

Re: What profit you expect?

Well for start we exist as Armenians from 2492 BC.But as before creation of Greece we are emerged from different civilizations.

The idea of nationhood are more modern as you think turk,back then things worked different,in your false logic Greeks were also slaves of Byzantine empire.
One empire that Armenians with Greeks ruled for you is enslavement?
You know nothing of history please study more about the matter then post your bastardized generalization that you may learned in anti-armenian turkish schools.

Yes i know about that ''hai'' or ''hayk'' things but saying that you are exist as Armenians from 2500bc is a bit absurd.May be you go further with your modern-idea of nationhood and you say Adam (the first human) was Armenian also since he is your grand grand father also.

Your statement about what children learns in schools is a cheap one but used frequently by everyone tho.You say ''Turkish children are being brain-washed by their government that's why they deny genocide'' And Turks say ''Armenian children are being brain-washed by their government so propagand goes on all the time'' See? There is no difference.Both is cheap.