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  • #61
    Re: What profit you expect?

    Originally posted by bell-the-cat View Post
    I was told once that Islamic societies don't have the same concepts of personal honor / dishonor that Western societies have. A Muslim feels no moral need to apologise for whatever dishonorable crimes his father or grandfather did, or for what crimes other Muslims have done, or to make amends to the victims of those crimes. And if the victims of those crimes were not Muslim, then there was nothing particularly dishonorable there anyway.
    Quite the contrary, It could be argued that Muslim societies have too much "honor". Although this a relative concept, consider for example the notion of 'honor killings' and any insult or suspected act burning of the Q'uran and how that manifests itself with the reactions of the poor masses.

    But I would have agreed with you if you had substituted the word "honor" with "conscience". I believe a fundamental characteristic deficient in many muslim societies (but not just confined to muslims ones) is the presence of a strong social conscience. The unstated and intimate bond between individuals that may not be related to you, speak your language or be of the religion etc. Hence, the anger and exasperation of Armenians to Turkish denials are often seen as insensitivity and lack of honor. But in my opinion this is probably more due to a weak social conscience. As a party that had no personal involvement with the events, they feel no reason for any personal guilt and therefore any burdens on their conscience. It follows that they should now not be castigated for having a difference of opinion.

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    • #62
      Re: What profit you expect?

      Originally posted by bell-the-cat View Post
      And, in the world of the internet, exactly the same is true of Armenians.
      Please refrain from quoting my posts until you make it a habit to respond to my requests for sources. You have so far responded to zero of my requests, and so if you won't respond to my requests, please, don't respond to my posts that aren't even directed at you.
      Last edited by levon; 09-20-2010, 03:06 AM.

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      • #63
        Re: What profit you expect?

        Originally posted by levon View Post
        Please refrain from quoting my posts until you make it a habit to respond to my requests for sources. You have so far responded to zero of my requests, and so if you won't respond to my requests, please, don't respond to my posts that aren't even directed at you.
        Quoting from your post again.

        All I got a say is that almost every Armenian I've encountered online has either been a delusional cu*nt, or one of those "hidden" tough guys who only acts "tough" when with 6 of his buddies, and only then it only lasts a few minutes. Though, that said, I've met some pretty decent people that happened to be Armenian.

        Delusional cu*nts or internet tough guys don't recognise sources, even when they are give them.
        Last edited by bell-the-cat; 09-20-2010, 08:55 AM.
        Plenipotentiary meow!

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        • #64
          Re: What profit you expect?

          Originally posted by Jos View Post
          Quite the contrary, It could be argued that Muslim societies have too much "honor". Although this a relative concept, consider for example the notion of 'honor killings' and any insult or suspected act burning of the Q'uran and how that manifests itself with the reactions of the poor masses.

          But I would have agreed with you if you had substituted the word "honor" with "conscience". I believe a fundamental characteristic deficient in many muslim societies (but not just confined to muslims ones) is the presence of a strong social conscience.
          I disagree, pride is not the same thing as honor and Muslims are NOT honourable people. The Muslims lack of empathy or social conscience is if anything a form of Narcissism.

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          • #65
            Re: What profit you expect?

            Originally posted by retro View Post
            I disagree, pride is not the same thing as honor and Muslims are NOT honourable people. The Muslims lack of empathy or social conscience is if anything a form of Narcissism.
            Islam's core is built on racism and intolerance. It reminds me of fascism if anything.
            If Armenia's government ever opens the border with Turkey and makes diplomatic relations with Turkey , It means the _ultimate_ treachery to our forefathers. By then, we might as well forget about the genocide..

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            • #66
              Re: What profit you expect?

              Originally posted by bell-the-cat View Post
              Quoting from your post again.

              All I got a say is that almost every Armenian I've encountered online has either been a delusional cu*nt, or one of those "hidden" tough guys who only acts "tough" when with 6 of his buddies, and only then it only lasts a few minutes. Though, that said, I've met some pretty decent people that happened to be Armenian.

              Delusional cu*nts or internet tough guys don't recognise sources, even when they are give them.
              Well, I'm glad you see things that way. Makes it easier for me to just always call you a fake. And, very nice, indirectly calling me a delusional cu*nt. Your discreetness baffles my existence.

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              • #67
                Re: What profit you expect?

                Originally posted by bell-the-cat View Post
                .....internet tough guys don't recognise sources, even when they are give them.
                Excuse me for interupting but I believe the correct wording is "Keyboard Commando"..........little sensitivity would be appreciated, thank you very much.
                B0zkurt Hunter

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                • #68
                  Re: What profit you expect?

                  Originally posted by Eddo211 View Post
                  Excuse me for interupting but I believe the correct wording is "Keyboard Commando"..........little sensitivity would be appreciated, thank you very much.
                  I'm willing to bet 100 euros that bell-the-cat would not withstand a catfight, even if his life depended on it.

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                  • #69
                    Re: What profit you expect?

                    I am not sure about betting money on it but I know Jingle bells likes to go for month long catnaps, but watch out.......when he returns to this forum he comes back with a vengeance of a tiger! well maybe a cheetah but nevertheless.
                    B0zkurt Hunter

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                    • #70
                      Re: What profit you expect?

                      What we want? Wilsonian Armenia, thats what we want.

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