Who is the Armenian girl that our guys strive to marry.

[KanadaHye]

Re: Who is the Armenian girl that our guys strive to marry.

You think Kardashian or Kasiyan have ability!

Millions of twits following Kardashian on twitter and non-stop carnage on Hollywood news and media.... she's able to find followers. Take a look at the comments on Kasiyan's you tube videos. It takes some, but apparently not much ability to draw attention.

You think Kardashian or Kasiyan have looks!!

According to the media and popular opinion... <shrug>

[bell-the-cat]

Re: Who is the Armenian girl that our guys strive to marry.

No, the quiet, well-mannered, intelligent types either don't have the ability or the looks to be like Kardashian or Kasiyan

You think Kardashian or Kasiyan have ability!

You think Kardashian or Kasiyan have looks!!

[Siggie]

Re: Who is the Armenian girl that our guys strive to marry.

You have no desire to do nothing and get a free ride in life (no pun intended)? You have no desire to use men and manipulate them because western laws allows you to do so?

No, I don't. I value myself more than that.

If I was a woman, I'd be wearing low cut blouses and bending over desks too. Western men are weak and simple minded and I'd be taking as much advantage of them as I could.

I'm not interested in those men either. Nor do I want to take advantage of anyone. If someone is so feeble-minded as to be swayed like that, they're not fit to be my man.

Wasn't it you that was saying women should pay less car insurance and they should have more rights over their children because they are "the primary care givers"? The sexist points are view are constantly being permeated through the media and that is what is considered the "norm" in the west.

No. I said because of the way they calculate risk, I understand why they would include that. It's not a matter of is it right or wrong, but does it predict the outcome of interest to them.

As for right, wrong again. It's like you're trying to shove me in a category or make my opinions into an extreme, ie black and white. I said it makes sense for whoever is the primary care giver to have the children primarily live with them. However, unless one parent is unfit to care for or make decisions for their child(ren), they should always have joint custody.

[KanadaHye]

Re: Who is the Armenian girl that our guys strive to marry.

yawalt....

You don't even know know me!

Yeah... All Women Are Like That

As one of that type, I can tell you frankly, I have absolutely zero desire to be like Kardashian. You can't say they don't realize it. You've made your belief completely falsifiable then. Any girl, no matter what she puts forth and what she says, you will still insist just doesn't realize that is what she wants. How's that logical?

You have no desire to do nothing and get a free ride in life (no pun intended)? You have no desire to use men and manipulate them because western laws allows you to do so?

If I was a woman, I'd be wearing low cut blouses and bending over desks too. Western men are weak and simple minded and I'd be taking as much advantage of them as I could.

Wasn't it you that was saying women should pay less car insurance and they should have more rights over their children because they are "the primary care givers"? The sexist points are view are constantly being permeated through the media and that is what is considered the "norm" in the west.

[Siggie]

Re: Who is the Armenian girl that our guys strive to marry.

yawalt....

You don't even know know me!

No, the quiet, well-mannered, intelligent types either don't have the ability or the looks to be like Kardashian or Kasiyan but they certainly don't disapprove of them. They don't speak out about how they are degrading Armenian culture and Armenian women in general. The reason for this is because they wish they could be like Kardashian or Kasiyan. Feminism resonates deep within the conscience of western raised women. They don't even realize it.

As one of that type, I can tell you frankly, I have absolutely zero desire to be like Kardashian. You can't say they don't realize it. You've made your belief completely falsifiable then. Any girl, no matter what she puts forth and what she says, you will still insist just doesn't realize that is what she wants. How's that logical?

[KanadaHye]

Re: Who is the Armenian girl that our guys strive to marry.

I'm increasingly confused by these generalizations about women in the diaspora or "West"... They don't resemble me or my circle of friends growing up.
I think the types that you all are describing are so disappointing, appalling, etc. that they are more memorable and thus overrepresented in our memories. The quiet, well-mannered, intelligent types either weren't noticed at all or quickly forgotten because they didn't "shock the conscience."

edited to add:

I want to clarify that I am not saying this sort, like Kristina, don't exist nor that their numbers aren't increasing because, much to my horror, they do and they are, BUT I am saying they are not as large a proportion as it may seem to you.

No, the quiet, well-mannered, intelligent types either don't have the ability or the looks to be like Kardashian or Kasiyan but they certainly don't disapprove of them. They don't speak out about how they are degrading Armenian culture and Armenian women in general. The reason for this is because they wish they could be like Kardashian or Kasiyan. Feminism resonates deep within the conscience of western raised women. They don't even realize it.

[levon]

Re: Who is the Armenian girl that our guys strive to marry.

i'm increasingly confused by these generalizations about women in the diaspora or "west"... They don't resemble me or my circle of friends growing up.

yawalt....

[Siggie]

Re: Who is the Armenian girl that our guys strive to marry.

Well said Siggie ,i know now much of the armenian community here in greece and i tend to remember the most bad examples ,cause you know people tend to talk about them most... but for the large proportion of my sisters here i have and others to say only good things....

Thanks! I'm relieved to hear it's not all bad in Greece.

[Siggie]

Re: Who is the Armenian girl that our guys strive to marry.

Not wanting to disagree with you but the reality of life is that the
advertised ( idea, image ) will gather a bigger following.

Dare I say even undeserved admiration specially from the young and the impressionable .

Yes, I realize that. I guess the optimist in me would like to believe we're not doomed to watch that proportion grow until it's nearly the whole.

[UrMistake]

Re: Who is the Armenian girl that our guys strive to marry.

I'm increasingly confused by these generalizations about women in the diaspora or "West"... They don't resemble me or my circle of friends growing up.
I think the types that you all are describing are so disappointing, appalling, etc. that they are more memorable and thus overrepresented in our memories. The quiet, well-mannered, intelligent types either weren't noticed at all or quickly forgotten because they didn't "shock the conscience."

edited to add:

I want to clarify that I am not saying this sort, like Kristina, don't exist nor that their numbers aren't increasing because, much to my horror, they do and they are, BUT I am saying they are not as large a proportion as it may seem to you.

Well said Siggie ,i know now much of the armenian community here in greece and i tend to remember the most bad examples ,cause you know people tend to talk about them most... but for the large proportion of my sisters here i have and others to say only good things....