Who is the Armenian girl that our guys strive to marry.

[gegev]

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Opinionated, vocal, independent, and intelligent, but at the same time, family-oriented, modest, hard working, sympathetic to others, respectful, and honest. Probably not what you'd expect out of Western culture which you guys think churns out nothing but garbage. In Armenia, it was more the locals who looked far more painted up and looking like prostitutes. So YES, I resent it when you make sweeping generalizations about Armenian women who grew up in the West and imply that women who are feminists and/or share my views wear handkerchiefs for skirts, are selfish, look down on family, and are ashamed of being Armenian. You might find this surprising, but that's incredibly offensive!

I guess the vocal, independent women should marry modest, dependent men to avoid divorce.

[Siggie]

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I guess the vocal, independent women should marry modest, dependent men to avoid divorce.

Being with someone because you love one another and want to be together rather than "needing" the other per se. Crazy idea right? But I love it that you're concerned about the health of my relationship. Let me bask in the warmth of your well wishes for a moment too... Mmm... I invite you to return to the forum year after year until you actually have cause to be as smug as you like act. As of yet we're quite happy and smitten, thanks.


Mos, I invite you to produce one shred of evidence to support any of that. And " many people think so too"? Really? Reality isn't voted on. And the fact that there are other who think like you isn't evidence that what you think is correct.

[gegev]

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Being with someone because you love one another and want to be together rather than "needing" the other per se. Crazy idea right? But I love it that you're concerned about the health of my relationship. Let me bask in the warmth of your well wishes for a moment too... Mmm... I invite you to return to the forum year after year until you actually have cause to be as smug as you like act. As of yet we're quite happy and smitten, thanks.
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In fact my posting here did't refer to you personally, but ...

Good luck to you and your family!!!
All the best.

[Mos]

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Mos, I invite you to produce one shred of evidence to support any of that. And " many people think so too"? Really? Reality isn't voted on. And the fact that there are other who think like you isn't evidence that what you think is correct.

What kind of evidence would you want? Just take a look at Western European society now and compare it several decades before. You can even see similar changes with Armenia in one decade. Take a look at the status of the family unit in the West, the view towards women, and so forth. You can see clearly the effects of these Western liberal ideals. As for people thinking similarly, I urge you to view the counter protest by Armenian patriots against a "diversity march" that took place in the summer, and what some of those patriots were saying. They have similar concerns like I have voiced here.

[Siggie]

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What kind of evidence would you want? Just take a look at Western European society now and compare it several decades before. You can even see similar changes with Armenia in one decade. Take a look at the status of the family unit in the West, the view towards women, and so forth. You can see clearly the effects of these Western liberal ideals. As for people thinking similarly, I urge you to view the counter protest by Armenian patriots against a "diversity march" that took place in the summer, and what some of those patriots were saying. They have similar concerns like I have voiced here.

For starters, let's try evidence of a breakdown of family and then evidence that said breakdown was caused by "female emancipation." That should keep you busy until the foreseeable future as there is no evidence that "female emancipation" has caused any breakdown.

And your "goals of feminism" are laughable. You're simply parroting what some privileged, undoubtedly male, imbeciles told you. If you want to know about the goals of feminists, go ask your mother and grandmothers.

[gegev]

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Why the developed countries are facing demographic crisis?

Alas their culture and indigenous population soon will be eradicated out of earth and the area will be populated by immigrants of other nationalities with strong family values that preach healthy/natural women ideologies.

The reason isn't poverty or lack of "democracy".

West is on the way of carrying out suicide if the current feminist ideologies are not changed soon.

Everything unnatural goes down in nature! Unnatural things/creatures can't reproduce themselves.

[Siggie]

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This is the fate of all creatures that go against nature. Women should be women and men should be men.

The cause isn’t poverty or lack of ”democracy”. It is the ideology that their women are fed up.

How are women being men and vice-versa? I presume you don't mean that they are changing their sex chromosomes, so please explain what you mean.

And how prey-tell can creatures living in the natural world, ever be going "against nature"? It's a logical impossibility. The fact that it occurs at all disproves your claim that it's against nature. "Res ipsa loquitur."

[gegev]

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I edited the post. Read please.

[Haykakan]

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I find it very interesting that science and technology have had such a big impact on the role of women in our society. What drove women to join the workforce was not femminism nor change in family values- it was the inventions of washer, dried, refrigerator.. Once these time saving new machines became cheaply available it started to make economic sense for women to join the workforce because the daily chores no longer cost more then what she could make at work. The changing role of a woman in modern society is simply a reaction to the changes in our environment. It is wrong to hold people back from developing (including women). Women still want a man and they still want children and family but they do have more options today then they have ever had before and juggling these options is not easy. Instead of limiting options men need to participate by helping a woman manage these options. For those looking to make a family unite these options need to be discussed by both the male and the female so both understands what is expected from the other. The changes are a natural part of evolution and as usual those who evolve best to these changes will succeed while others will fail. Placing limitations on people should be done to avoid them hurting others or themselves and the evolution of the woman in our society does not have to hurt anyone. Women are not the same as men but that does not mean that they only belong in the home.

[Mos]

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For starters, let's try evidence of a breakdown of family and then evidence that said breakdown was caused by "female emancipation." That should keep you busy until the foreseeable future as there is no evidence that "female emancipation" has caused any breakdown.

And your "goals of feminism" are laughable. You're simply parroting what some privileged, undoubtedly male, imbeciles told you. If you want to know about the goals of feminists, go ask your mother and grandmothers.

The whole goal of Feminism has been the removal of women from traditional gender roles, which has been viewed as "oppressive" and "unequal". I think this is pretty obvious. Of course, over time that Feminism has developed into something worse and into something dangerous for conservative cultures that still revolve around the family unit. If you have a movement that advocates this for women, how can you expect your traditional family unit to be maintained?

I know also Feminism attempts to create this equality between men and women, but the reality is men and women are fundamentally different, in their biology, psychology, etc. So men and women can never be "equal", though of course both are equal citizens in the eyes of the law.

You will notice that in many women in the West a certain innocence has been lost in women, modesty in both behaviour and dress, the dedication to family and family values. Compare such Western women to let's say Muslim women and the difference is rather clear. Of course not all Western women are like this, but a great deal.

This is not say such women should be educated, given opportunity in workforce, etc.