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  • #171
    Re: Who is the Armenian girl that our guys strive to marry.

    They've even snuck into Artsakh... http://www.womenofarmenia.org/en/about-us/wrca-shushi

    The Center participates in a cooperative project with another women's organization in Baku as part of establishing a peace dialogue in the region.
    The above must be a joke.
    Azerbaboon: 9.000 Google hits and counting!

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    • #172
      Re: Who is the Armenian girl that our guys strive to marry.

      What's so bad about these programmes? Seem innocent to me.

      ''Nobody is Perfect''- an interactive workshop for mothers and their children(0-5 years).

      ''the women's coffee corner''- The center is open 4 days a week for all women who are greeted warmly by a staff member ready to listen to their concerns and suggestions around a cup of coffee.

      ''free gynecological consultations''- once a month a gynecologist is invited to the center to talk about important health issues concerning women and time is allocated for individual consultations.

      ''A taste of Shushi''- 100% natural and organic products: conserves, jams and dried fruits prepared by women.

      on-going services: library, internet, English courses.
      Մեկ Ազգ, Մեկ Մշակույթ
      ---
      "Western Assimilation is the greatest threat to the Armenian nation since the Armenian Genocide."

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      • #173
        Re: Who is the Armenian girl that our guys strive to marry.

        Originally posted by bell-the-cat View Post
        A "feminist" being any women who doesn't stay in the kitchen?

        I don't know anyone who would use the word "feminism" in conversation, and the last time anyone has used it seriously in a political context is the 1970s. Only dinosaurs and fanatics use such words nowadays, like those who still go on about "communism" or "anti-communism" as if that had validity or relevance to everyday life.
        For every 1 intelligent post you make, there are about 30 that can be classified as trolling or just plain asinine. Communism and Feminism are more relevant today than they were when the concepts were being rolled out to John Q Public.
        "Nobody can give you freedom. Nobody can give you equality or justice or anything. If you're a man, you take it." ~Malcolm X

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        • #174
          Re: Who is the Armenian girl that our guys strive to marry.

          Originally posted by Mos View Post
          It really shouldn't be called 'Feminist' movement, because the definition of the feminist movement was equal rights among men and women in society. But from what I hear here, it's turned into a demonisation of men thus taking feminism to a inappropriate extreme.
          It's funny, because prior to feminism, an average middle class woman was much better off than an average middle class woman now. She enjoyed the same standard of living, but didn't have to work. Working class women couldn't afford to stay home, they had to work. Upper class women still don't work. The only thing that happened is that middle class women now have to work, but their standard of living hasn't changed.

          Feminism was never about equality. From it's early days, it's most vocal activists were almost all lesbian harpies and hated men. It was a movement against family. All of their early literature suggests that the main goals were to "free" women from family, and from children. This was so successful that now women simply cannot quit working. But feminists accomplished this through selling women the idea that they can have it all, and when the walls come crashing down you get a whole new generation of unhappy women, overworked and single. Whom to blame? Why, feminism has the answer again. Those vile, evil men keep women down. We need more laws to ensure women get treated more equally.

          If anything, feminists are saying that women are dumb, irresponsible xxxxxs who should not be accounted for anything they do and constantly need help. If they are so equal, why all the laws specifically aimed at protecting and advancing women? Why is a man responsible for the baby, but a woman can kill it? If it's her body, then she shouldn't have gotten pregnant in the first place, but the hidden assumption is that it was the man's responsibility to not get her pregnant,not the woman's, hence he should be responsible for the baby, but the woman can kill it if she doesn't want it. In other words, a woman is a complete moron who doesn't know what the f#ck she's doing and should be bailed out when she realizes she has made a mistake. But a man, being the responsible one, should go with whatever the woman decides to do. So, woman = moron. But what feminist will admit this simple truth? Not a single one, because feminists don't have brains to begin with. Their entire thought process is formulated through emotion.

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          • #175
            Re: Who is the Armenian girl that our guys strive to marry.

            Originally posted by bell-the-cat View Post
            A "feminist" being any women who doesn't stay in the kitchen?

            I don't know anyone who would use the word "feminism" in conversation
            Apparently you don't hang out with the "cool cats".

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            • #176
              Re: Who is the Armenian girl that our guys strive to marry.

              Originally posted by levon View Post
              It's funny, because prior to feminism, an average middle class woman was much better off than an average middle class woman now. She enjoyed the same standard of living, but didn't have to work. Working class women couldn't afford to stay home, they had to work. Upper class women still don't work. The only thing that happened is that middle class women now have to work, but their standard of living hasn't changed.

              Feminism was never about equality. From it's early days, it's most vocal activists were almost all lesbian harpies and hated men. It was a movement against family. All of their early literature suggests that the main goals were to "free" women from family, and from children. This was so successful that now women simply cannot quit working. But feminists accomplished this through selling women the idea that they can have it all, and when the walls come crashing down you get a whole new generation of unhappy women, overworked and single. Whom to blame? Why, feminism has the answer again. Those vile, evil men keep women down. We need more laws to ensure women get treated more equally.

              If anything, feminists are saying that women are dump, irresponsible xxxxxs who should not be accounted for anything they do and constantly need help. If they are so equal, why all the laws specifically aimed at protecting and advancing women? Why is a man responsible for the baby, but a woman can kill it? If it's her body, then she shouldn't have gotten pregnant in the first place, but the hidden assumption is that it was the man's responsibility to not get her pregnant,not the woman's, hence he should be responsible for the baby, but the woman can kill it if she doesn't want it. In other words, a woman is a complete moron who doesn't know what the f#ck she's doing and should be bailed out when she realizes she has made a mistake. But a man, being the responsible one, should go with whatever the woman decides to do. So, woman = moron. But what feminist will admit this simple truth? Not a single one, because feminists don't have brains to begin with. Their entire thought process is formulated through emotion.
              In my view, women should have the choice if they want to work or stay at home, or live on the streets, but given they go into the work field, there should be no special privileges for women and both men and women should be treated equally. Any attempt to raise the privileges of women above men is not 'feminism' anymore, if one is following the strict dictionary definition of that term.

              When it comes to the whole baby thing, it's a bit more complicated, because in the end of the day it's the women carrying the baby, it's literally part of her body, thus it's natural laws regarding pregnancy will favour women.
              Մեկ Ազգ, Մեկ Մշակույթ
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              "Western Assimilation is the greatest threat to the Armenian nation since the Armenian Genocide."

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              • #177
                Re: Who is the Armenian girl that our guys strive to marry.

                Originally posted by Mos View Post
                In my view, women should have the choice if they want to work or stay at home, or live on the streets, but given they go into the work field, there should be no special privileges for women and both men and women should be treated equally. Any attempt to raise the privileges of women above men is not 'feminism' anymore, if one is following the strict dictionary definition of that term.
                The definition is general.... there are all kinds of feminism but the radical feminists are a few fries short of a happy meal.
                "Nobody can give you freedom. Nobody can give you equality or justice or anything. If you're a man, you take it." ~Malcolm X

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                • #178
                  Re: Who is the Armenian girl that our guys strive to marry.

                  Originally posted by Mos View Post
                  When it comes to the whole baby thing, it's a bit more complicated, because in the end of the day it's the women carrying the baby, it's literally part of her body, thus it's natural laws regarding pregnancy will favour women.
                  You can call it whatever you want, but at the end of the day it's a woman killing her baby because she doesn't want it. The father has absolutely no say. If it was her body, she should have exercised restraint and not have gotten pregnant in the first place. She made a mistake and so should pay for it. You advocate equality, yet show a double standard here. Which is it?
                  Last edited by levon; 05-29-2011, 07:06 PM.

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                  • #179
                    Re: Who is the Armenian girl that our guys strive to marry.

                    Originally posted by levon View Post
                    You can call it whatever you want, but at the end of the day it's a woman killing her baby because she doesn't want it. The father has absolutely no say. If it was her body, she should have exercised restraint and not have gotten pregnant in the first place. She made a mistake and so should pay for it. You advocate equality, yet show a double standard here. Which is it?
                    No I do advocate equality, but since the circumstance is revolving around the woman's own body, maybe she should have more say in what happens.
                    Մեկ Ազգ, Մեկ Մշակույթ
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                    "Western Assimilation is the greatest threat to the Armenian nation since the Armenian Genocide."

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                    • #180
                      Re: Who is the Armenian girl that our guys strive to marry.

                      Originally posted by Mos View Post
                      No I do advocate equality, but since the circumstance is revolving around the woman's own body, maybe she should have more say in what happens.
                      Unless she got raped, she wasn't forced to have sex. It was her choice, to have sex, and hence it is her responsibility to have the child. Adoption is always an option. Abortion is a selfish move so that she never feels guilty about letting a child go. She has the freedom to have sex unmarried and thus she has the responsibility of the children her actions may produce.

                      Her body, her choice is bullxxxx, as once the baby is alive, it's no longer her body.

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