How does everyone feel about Israel?

[KanadaHye]

Re: How does everyone feel about Israel?

True, but he's just exposing Racism, Zionism, Bolshevism, etc. He's the owner of the website j3wishracism.com. He wrote a 575 page book in .pdf format titled THE J3WISH GENOCIDE OF ARMENIAN CHRISTIANS.

[Mos]

Re: How does everyone feel about Israel?

Actually, the speaker and author of that piece is J3wish...

even if that is so, it doesn't change the nature of the piece.

[KanadaHye]

Re: How does everyone feel about Israel?

seems to me to be more Iranian propaganda against j3ws, more than anything else.

Actually, the speaker and author of that piece is J3wish...

[Mos]

Re: How does everyone feel about Israel?

Interesting video on the Armenian genocide & Pan-Turkism: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tZHLwibviak

seems to me to be more Iranian propaganda against j3ws, more than anything else.

[Persopolis]

Re: How does everyone feel about Israel?

Interesting video on the Armenian genocide & Pan-Turkism: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tZHLwibviak

[Mos]

Re: How does everyone feel about Israel?

If US becomes a more honest broker in the whole process - peace maybe able to achieved more quickly, but the overt support for Israel by the US has led Israel to be more defiant and less willing to compromise and thus prolonged this whole conflict.

[Federate]

Re: How does everyone feel about Israel?

The current problem with Israel and Palestine may have originally been Israel's fault, but in the end some blame also lies with the Arabs, what happened to Palestinian refugees in Lebanon and Jordan? Why are they treated like dirt in other Arab countries? Why won't other Arab states offer them citizenship for the past 5 decades?

Had Palestinians been allowed to live full and equal lives in other Arab countries for the past half century most of them would of moved and started over in other Arab countries, or they could have chosen to just live in Israel. In the end it's not as vital for the legacy of man kind to have an independent Palestine as opposed to an Israeli state. The Arabs of Palestine are essentially the same as the Arabs of Jordan who in turn are the same as other Arabs, the difference amongst them all is that Great Britain and other European nations drew random lines across the middle east and messed it up a bunch just like they did when they split up africa

How the Arab World treats its Palestinian refugees is not a cause of the Israeli-Palestinian problem but a consequence. The refugees are not treated badly in the sense that they are oppressed or kicked around. They simply do not have any status in their host countries for a variety of reasons. To understand the main reason or strategy taken by the Palestinians, I recommend this short article where Arafat talks about Armenians. The Palestinian refugees themselves do not want citizenship. From the host countries' POV, it would've been a disaster for them if all of a sudden that many people become citizens, too big of an influx and state not able to handle it. There's also political reasons such as in Lebanon. Can you imagine what kind of an impact it would have on Lebanon if 250 000 Palestinians become citizens in a country of 4 million? Lebanon ALREADY has a problem with sectarian divisions... For Jordan's case, the king is in denial that the majority of his country is Palestinian while he is not and it would be bad for him if more join the majority.

What you are proposing basically amounts to saying Palestinians should've just assimilated into generic Arabs. That beats the point of one of the major goals of their struggle and that is to return to Israel. Choosing to live in Israel is not an option simply because Israel drove many of them out and doesn't want them back or it will be a demographic disaster to uphold the "J3wishness" of Israel.

I definitely agree with your comments on Arabs being the same and GB drawing lines between them but Arab@ esh e yev esh ge mna. They will continue dividing themselves because their leaders are all sellouts to the highest Western bidder. Gamal Abdel Nasser was the last great Pan-Arab leader and his attempts to unify all of the Arabs did not last long.

[ara87]

Re: How does everyone feel about Israel?

I would hope more Iranians than Israelis could point out Armenia on the map since we're next door neighbors.

As for my thoughts on Israel, was it wrong for them to just return after all that time? yes, they should of carved a country out of Germany for themselves, but they're there now, and they can't all leave, and in the end you have too look at it like this there's only one xxxish state, and at least 20 arab states.

The current problem with Israel and Palestine may have originally been Israel's fault, but in the end some blame also lies with the Arabs, what happened to Palestinian refugees in Lebanon and Jordan? Why are they treated like dirt in other Arab countries? Why won't other Arab states offer them citizenship for the past 5 decades?

Had Palestinians been allowed to live full and equal lives in other Arab countries for the past half century most of them would of moved and started over in other Arab countries, or they could have chosen to just live in Israel. In the end it's not as vital for the legacy of man kind to have an independent Palestine as opposed to an Israeli state. The Arabs of Palestine are essentially the same as the Arabs of Jordan who in turn are the same as other Arabs, the difference amongst them all is that Great Britain and other European nations drew random lines across the middle east and messed it up a bunch just like they did when they split up africa

[Mos]

Re: How does everyone feel about Israel?

Want to see real propaganda? Visit the Azeri news sources: Presently they're trying to sell Iranians on the idea that Armenians are trying to convert Iranians into Christians. (Not only is it ridiculous; it's clear that there is no lie the Azeri government won't tell.) The entire Azeri news media is built on the KGB style of brainwashing thanks to Haydar Aliyev. http://www.today.az/

If I was in charge of Iran, I would build another town in the North of Iran for Armenians, with a giant memorial to the victims of the genocide in the city center just to answer the vile Azeri tactics. Azeri lies only work with their own populations and people in the U.S. dumb enough to believe there is a Muslim/Christian war in Iran. The fact is that Iranians and Armenians have known each other and have been friends for centuries.

Why do you keep quoting my posts from several months ago?

[Persopolis]

Re: How does everyone feel about Israel?

russiatoday is as much propaganda as the major US media sources. I stick to watching a variety which mostly consist of European news sources, Armenian (obviously), Azeri/Turkish, some Russian and Middle Eastern on the side.

Want to see real propaganda? Visit the Azeri news sources: Presently they're trying to sell Iranians on the idea that Armenians are trying to convert Iranians into Christians. (Not only is it ridiculous; it's clear that there is no lie the Azeri government won't tell.) The entire Azeri news media is built on the KGB style of brainwashing thanks to Haydar Aliyev. http://www.today.az/

If I was in charge of Iran, I would build another town in the North of Iran for Armenians, with a giant memorial to the victims of the genocide in the city center just to answer the vile Azeri tactics. Azeri lies only work with their own populations and people in the U.S. dumb enough to believe there is a Muslim/Christian war in Iran. The fact is that Iranians and Armenians have known each other and have been friends for centuries.