Current Condition of Armenia

[Armanen]

Re: Current Condition of Armenia

Policy forum Armenia has been egging these idiots on. They have been published propaganda 'research' pieces or posting old ones on their fb account. It must be nice for them to sit in DC or NYC and call for a revolution but they will not have to face the direct reprecussions.

[Federate]

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Onnik Krikorian's blog is decorated with revolution material http://globalvoicesonline.org/2011/0...or-revolution/

[Mos]

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Policy forum Armenia has been egging these idiots on. They have been published propaganda 'research' pieces or posting old ones on their fb account. It must be nice for them to sit in DC or NYC and call for a revolution but they will not have to face the direct reprecussions.

I feel most of the participants in that facebook group live outside of Armenia. The absurd part of it all is that they are looking up to Levon - just comes to show the stupidity and Hippocracy of that movement.

[Federate]

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I feel most of the participants in that facebook group live outside of Armenia. The absurd part of it all is that they are looking up to Levon - just comes to show the stupidity and Hippocracy of that movement.

When you point out that fact to them, they reply by saying that there aren't many FB or Twitter users in Armenia

You know, their movement could garner a lot more support, both inside and outside of Armenia, if they just ditch LTP but they lack any kind of vision and strategy. The entire ՀԱԿ is a joke. It is made up of a dozen different ideological forces who have chosen the godfather of corruption as their leader, a man with no credibility and who was facing similar street protests more than a decade ago. Boy do Armenians never learn. Either that or we suffer from short term memory loss. Either can be fatal!

[KanadaHye]

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When you point out that fact to them, they reply by saying that there aren't many FB or Twitter users in Armenia

You know, their movement could garner a lot more support, both inside and outside of Armenia, if they just ditch LTP but they lack any kind of vision and strategy. The entire ՀԱԿ is a joke. It is made up of a dozen different ideological forces who have chosen the godfather of corruption as their leader, a man with no credibility and who was facing similar street protests more than a decade ago. Boy do Armenians never learn. Either that or we suffer from short term memory loss. Either can be fatal!

I think we're just wired with a King/Queen mentality. Armenian men want to be mafioso and Armenian women want to do nothing but run their mouths and give orders.

Now I'll hide to dodge bullets from my comment

[Mos]

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When you point out that fact to them, they reply by saying that there aren't many FB or Twitter users in Armenia

You know, their movement could garner a lot more support, both inside and outside of Armenia, if they just ditch LTP but they lack any kind of vision and strategy. The entire ՀԱԿ is a joke. It is made up of a dozen different ideological forces who have chosen the godfather of corruption as their leader, a man with no credibility and who was facing similar street protests more than a decade ago. Boy do Armenians never learn. Either that or we suffer from short term memory loss. Either can be fatal!

Exactly, if they ditch Levon their movement might actually have some substance. Right now they are just drowning in hippocracy and many people refuse to join a movement headed by a ex-mafia/dictator that won't change anything, and will most likely make things worse for Armenia. We have to firstly have a president that is tough on Karabakh, and I highly doubt the opposition's desire for such a tough stance. During March 1 protests, those same people were yelling that Karabakh people are Turks. I'm serious. They have a great animosity towards the Karabakh people, and I'm afraid they will sell Karabakh for "open borders" or more realistically just fall into another Turkish trap, like Serzh did. I rather have current government to do some well needed reforms, rather than these people to take control.

[Armanen]

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When you point out that fact to them, they reply by saying that there aren't many FB or Twitter users in Armenia

You know, their movement could garner a lot more support, both inside and outside of Armenia, if they just ditch LTP but they lack any kind of vision and strategy. The entire ՀԱԿ is a joke. It is made up of a dozen different ideological forces who have chosen the godfather of corruption as their leader, a man with no credibility and who was facing similar street protests more than a decade ago. Boy do Armenians never learn. Either that or we suffer from short term memory loss. Either can be fatal!

Well it is easy enough to shoot that theory down. Facebook and Youtube are now on the list of top 5 most popular sites in Armenia. I think there are well over 250,000 fb users in Armenia now.

The majority of the people that make up these pathetic groups have no clue about politics, international relations, or even basic geoeconomics/geopolitics. They read an article here or there, listen to gossip from someone who just came back from Armenia, and then decide a revolution is the way to go. Furthermore, they are ignorant of the foreign forces who would love to see a new government in Yerevan, one that will bend over and take it in the @ss like the georgian government, and if you point this out to them you are a nutjob.

If one brings up the ltp question, some will dismiss him and say they do not support him, but then one has to ask, well who will step in to take Serj's place if he is ousted? There is no serious canidate(s) to fill the void at this moment. So instead of calling for snap elections, and bashing Armenia in the foreign press, maybe they should work on establishing a serious opposition that is a) free from foreign influence, b) isn't hysterical, and c) has a solid foundation ideologically.

This is not likely to happen because the foreign powers who are in bed with the so called 'opposition' would have to be kicked out first, and because those at the top have a lot to lose if a true opposition were to take their place. Anyway, better to stick with the devil you know.

[Mos]

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Let all of us remember. The West is very interested in supplying Europe with non-Russian gas, mainly from Azerbaijan and possibly Turkmenistan. Now one big obstacle is Armenia, which is in the middle of all this, so they would love to have Armenia have open borders with its neighbours, at all costs, even if it means selling Karabakh or whatever it takes. These energy projects are very important for them, and Armenia for them is just an obstacle in reaching their energy goals. With a government that bends down to all Western demands, they can make it a reality and first, get rid of Russia troops and influence from the area, and make it a energy highway. The West may disguise all this under the cover of "democracy" or "reconciliation" but really what they care about the most their economic interests, and these gullible protesters should understand that. We definitely should make some reforms in our country, and they are being done, but we don't need a "colour revolution" that will make Armenia into Georgia #2 - that will just make everything much worse in the long run.

[Federate]

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It has started. So far doesn't look like much.

[Mos]

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yeah what I expected. You have to have something big like a presidential elections to get big numbers of people.