Current Condition of Armenia

[Mukuch]

Re: Current Condition of Armenia

Met more than enough of those too, I've met also diplomats and their families and know what the elite as well what the underbelly of their society thinks of us, don't you worry. It's so easy to tarnish the memories of dead Armenians that aren't here to defend themselves. So I call BS and tell you to present sources right here and now. .

Again.. russian elite... russian elite is not even russian )) What source? Source of what? MORON.....

PS:I'm from Turki majla, filled with people that were from Kars and other people that survived the genocide.

Kars is eastern Armenia .. and never sow Genocide.
So wher are you from ? From Lenakan? From Kars? Or maybe from Baku as I guessed ?

[Armanen]

Re: Current Condition of Armenia

The chances of Turkey attacking Armenia are very low compared to 1993. In fact stability is what Turkey needs, including big pressure from US. This doesn’t mean that events may not unfold in an unexpected way, and maybe such conditions would come up that the temptation would be sufficiently high and the general chain of events would lead to a decision of that kind, so we can’t say for 100% but today and especially since 2002 it seems very unreal.

Fact:

Neither Russia nor Turkey wants to damage the increasingly beneficial economic and strategic relationship over Nagorno-Karabakh, let alone an attack on Armenia. Peaceful transformation of the status quo is in the best interests of both. In fact Turkey’s influence on Baku on not attacking NKR is a major factor in preventing hostilities regardless of their military aid and support.

Also I think

An invasion and occupation of Armenia will threaten the Russian influence in the region which Russia will not be taking sitting down, with or without Armenia.

Iran is not the same weak country as it was at the signing of Turmanchay and they will have a say.

Such bullying actions against a small Nation without provocation will not be taken well in Europe, US, and Middle East and will be against Davutoglu’s foreign strategy. A new NK war is no justification for Turkish military involvement against Armenia proper. The new treaty between Turkey and Azerbaijan is not being ratified in Ankara.

Not much to profit from such pan Turkic (Neo Ottomanism. Pax-Ottoman) move when the rest of the Turkic states (Expect Azerbaijan) don’t really approve of the Turkish model (other than economics maybe) while again Russia and Iran would not want to loose regional power.

The West wants to establish energy corridors with very big investments which would require stability.

As far as the blockade and border closing neither the Turks or the Armenian businessmen want them closed. If it weren’t for massive lobbying from Baku during the protocols the borders would probably be open now (with other 2 preconditions in discussion). As I understand there are flights from Yerevan to Istanbul.

Do you see how much of what I outlined about a turkish attack is based on Russia being aligned with Armenia and having strong foothold in the Caucasus?

The turks are good strategists, they are making the best of the current world situation and trying new avenues of foreign policy. Neo-ottomanism is not solely based on hard power, but soft power, they have been making investments and culutral exchanges with the stan countries, and Balkan nations for some time. They have also fostered better relations with the Arab world, specifically Syria, and they are attempting to keep things cordial with Moscow and Tehran. However, turkey and Iran, as well as turkey and Russia, have been, are, and will remain geopolitical rivals.

The closed border enjoys large support among turks, over 60% do not want open borders with Armenia, and their kemalist party is against it as well. Closed borders are an act of war, simple as that.

Expect the unexpected!

[Armanen]

Re: Current Condition of Armenia

Turks will never attack us. This says enough about you. I rest my case, you are one hopeless soul. Why did I even bother to discuss with you? Waste of my precious time.

You should kiss the feet of the Russians for protecting our borders with Turkey.

He is a troll like I said, he can't defend his positions, will make nonsensical claims and then throw lame insults at you. Just ignore him, he is likely to get another ban soon with the insults anyway.

[KarotheGreat]

Re: Current Condition of Armenia

Too bad that you meet russians from Berlin to Amsterdam..... You should try from Kostroma to Vladivostok what was in soviet time it was in soviet time... russians were suppresed by system and Armenians used it very well... I am "glad" that you are from Lenakan that says a lot ... this were the people who were abusing gakhtakans (refugies) from western Armenia not knowing what Genocide is... no I am not "esh Yerevantsi" mor "tsur Mshetsi" Any ways you spell armenian with mistakes

Met more than enough of those too, I've met also diplomats and their families and know what the elite as well what the underbelly of their society thinks of us, don't you worry. It's so easy to tarnish the memories of dead Armenians that aren't here to defend themselves. So I call BS and tell you to present sources right here and now.
PS:I'm from Turki majla, filled with people that were from Kars and other people that survived the genocide.

[Mukuch]

Re: Current Condition of Armenia

Too bad that you meet russians from Berlin to Amsterdam..... You should try from Kostroma to Vladivostok what was in soviet time it was in soviet time... russians were suppresed by system and Armenians used it very well... I am "glad" that you are from Lenakan that says a lot ... this were the people who were abusing gakhtakans (refugies) from western Armenia not knowing what Genocide is... no I am not "esh Yerevantsi" mor "tsur Mshetsi" Any ways you spell armenian with mistakes

[KarotheGreat]

Re: Current Condition of Armenia

One more... where they come from I wonder?

Who am I _ I am the one who dos not kiss ass the way you do. You know what gives me this rights?: I am armenian and my parents were armenian and parents of them...

What you are I do not know but I can assume that just resently you have learned about being Armenian and I bet you spell armenian with mistakes if you even know how to writ and you would be just another bakvetsi if azeriis do not decide to "clean" theyr neighborhoods from armenians... that is probably the fierst time your parents learned that they are armenans.... the same is true for tigranaks and others.... your father was an oficer in soviet army serving bolsheviks and your mother hardly know how to read..
Now you think you know me?

You know your little absence from the forum has given you new abilities it seems, you really have improved the way you amuse me. So it seems your absence has brought many positive things with it, Mgo.
Yeah to bad that my family has been living for more than 5 generations in Leninaka and before that in Kars and from the way you portray yourself it seems that you are an esh Erevnci.
You keep talking about how majority of the ordinary don't like Armenians or don't even know the difference between the Armenians or any of the other ethnicities in the Caucasus but how come every and I mean every single Russian I meet from Amsterdam to Berlin to Moscow to Brussels when they hear that I'm Armenian are turning in to the most friendly people ever and telling how they know Armenians back in Russians or where ever they live, some of their friends are Armenians or they go to a bar that is owned by an Armenian. You tell us you've been there at the end of the 80 and begging of the 90's right? I can tell you for a fact that every one above 20 would know Armenians from their days in the armed forces where Armenians where the ones calling all the shots who does the chores or who gets beaten up.

[Mukuch]

Re: Current Condition of Armenia

hahahhaha you've posted a lot of retard things on this forum but this one is the best one. Who the xxxx do you think that you are? Can you please tell me, what or who gives you the right to tell what should be on this forum?

And it also seems you are back with your anti-Russian BS, you said that Tigranakert doesn't know you, but I know you well enough and remember you very well from back in the day.

One more... where they come from I wonder?

Who am I _ I am the one who dos not kiss ass the way you do. You know what gives me this rights?: I am armenian and my parents were armenian and parents of them...

What you are I do not know but I can assume that just resently you have learned about being Armenian and I bet you spell armenian with mistakes if you even know how to writ and you would be just another bakvetsi if azeriis do not decide to "clean" theyr neighborhoods from armenians... that is probably the fierst time your parents learned that they are armenans.... the same is true for tigranaks and others.... your father was an oficer in soviet army serving bolsheviks and your mother hardly know how to read..
Now you think you know me?

[KarotheGreat]

Re: Current Condition of Armenia

I am really indignated by the slave (slavish) attitude of many members on this forum. I shell remind that this is an Armenian Forum and I call attention of moderators for any kind of pro-russian, pro-iranian and even pro-western propaganda on this site. If actions will not be taken I reserve the right of better judgment to my self and freedom of action.

hahahhaha you've posted a lot of retard things on this forum but this one is the best one. Who the xxxx do you think that you are? Can you please tell me, what or who gives you the right to tell what should be on this forum?

And it also seems you are back with your anti-Russian BS, you said that Tigranakert doesn't know you, but I know you well enough and remember you very well from back in the day.

[Mukuch]

Re: Current Condition of Armenia

I am really indignated by the slave (slavish) attitude of many members on this forum. I shell remind that this is an Armenian Forum and I call attention of moderators for any kind of pro-russian, pro-iranian and even pro-western propaganda on this site. If actions will not be taken I reserve the right of better judgment to my self and freedom of action.

[Mukuch]

Re: Current Condition of Armenia

[B][I]You should kiss the feet of the Russians for protecting our borders with Turkey.

Why feet? kiss theyr ARSS or even better: kiss theyr D*I*C*K !!!
Thats what you do the best )))