Current Condition of Armenia

[Federate]

Re: Current Condition of Armenia

Dashnaks might not like the Russian takeover of much of Armenia's strategic business and there has been thinly veiled criticism of Russia for this (seriously, which nationalist would approve of this?) but they recognise the importance Russia plays in Armenia's survival and are pro-Russian. Anyone who thinks otherwise has not been up to date with the organisation for the last decade. It was in Kocharyan's pro-Russian coalition for 10 years, opposes Western-approved Levonakan ANC, praised the renewal of the Russian base lease (this alone is already testament of their realism in relation to Russia) and when Azerbaijan was sold S-300s, Dashnaks recognised this as "Russia's right".

[Eddo211]

Re: Current Condition of Armenia

...Even if the ARF were to come to power in Yerevan, they would still bend to the will of Moscow, IF, the current geopolitical climate were the same.

Not as much.

Have no doubts that Russia intends to keep Armenia close, it is part of their grand strategy, and we can only be thankful, otherwise, we have two hungry neighbors waiting to eat us up. And even if a million fedayeen were to volunteer, we'd still lose the war and our statehood!

That will not happen with Turkey. Russia uses that scare tac to increase their control of the Armenian Republic. Azerbaijan is a problem that we can solve but not allowed.

[Mukuch]

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There are destructive scum within the ARF as well, I just pointed out one in the earlier post that started this mini discussion.

I still dont see who you mean?

So when you go to bed tonight, please say a prayer for the Kremlin.

I do notpray for bricks .. I pray for my Nation....

You can pray for TajMahal as well it is your busness....

[Armanen]

Re: Current Condition of Armenia

1.The only real opoition party in Armenia is ARF, I do not concider the others oposition it is just destructive scum....
2. If ARF has connections to CIA and KGB than the curent Armenian governamant is directly rulled from Moscow

There are destructive scum within the ARF as well, I just pointed out one in the earlier post that started this mini discussion. Even if the ARF were to come to power in Yerevan, they would still bend to the will of Moscow, IF, the current geopolitical climate were the same. Have no doubts that Russia intends to keep Armenia close, it is part of their grand strategy, and we can only be thankful, otherwise, we have two hungry neighbors waiting to eat us up. And even if a million fedayeen were to volunteer, we'd still lose the war and our statehood!

So when you go to bed tonight, please say a prayer for the Kremlin.

[Mukuch]

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The low level members of ARF are good folk for the most part, it is the higher level people whom I am suspicious of, and the ARF is not the only Armenian party which this applies to. In fact, the whole 'Armenian opposition', levon and his scum party, plus heritage, are foreign tools of destabilization.

1.The only real opoition party in Armenia is ARF, I do not concider the others oposition it is just destructive scum....
2. If ARF has connections to CIA and KGB than the curent Armenian governamant is directly rulled from Moscow

[Armanen]

Re: Current Condition of Armenia

You never know.... that is true that ARF is not what it used to be in 1920s but the tradition is there I do not know what is your knowledg about "spy world" but the fact is that there were "artarutyan martikner" in 70s the armed wing of ARF and Hay Dat is still there And not KGB nether CIA could stop them

The low level members of ARF are good folk for the most part, it is the higher level people whom I am suspicious of, and the ARF is not the only Armenian party which this applies to. In fact, the whole 'Armenian opposition', levon and his scum party, plus heritage, are foreign tools of destabilization.

[Mukuch]

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Maybe, who is to say. However, knowing a bit about the spy world, it is more likely that the kgb or cia pulls the strings and has truly implanted itself in the ARF and other large Armenian organizations rather than the other way round.

You never know.... that is true that ARF is not what it used to be in 1920s but the tradition is there I do not know what is your knowledg about "spy world" but the fact is that there were "artarutyan martikner" in 70s the armed wing of ARF and Hay Dat is still there And not KGB nether CIA could stop them

[Armanen]

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You are correct. But the people employed might not be ARF-ers per se but have links to it through marriage of an ARF-er or maybe ex-members.

Personally, I would not be opposed to it so hastily because there is always a possibility that they are not working for rfe but "working" in the sense of infiltrating it to get the inside dirt. Always good to have your men on all fronts.

Maybe, who is to say. However, knowing a bit about the spy world, it is more likely that the kgb or cia pulls the strings and has truly implanted itself in the ARF and other large Armenian organizations rather than the other way round.

[Mukuch]

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Pro-US not nesesary = to anti-Armenian. And the mentioned by Armanen people were hired by RFE during cold war.

[Federate]

Re: Current Condition of Armenia

There was a case to be made for what you say during the Cold War, now there isn't much of a reason why ARF members or people with close ties to the ARF should work for anti-Armenian outlets like rfe.

You are correct. But the people employed might not be ARF-ers per se but have links to it through marriage of an ARF-er or maybe ex-members.

Personally, I would not be opposed to it so hastily because there is always a possibility that they are not working for rfe but "working" in the sense of infiltrating it to get the inside dirt. Always good to have your men on all fronts.