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  • #51
    Re: Armenian Stone Henge Story - CNN

    Originally posted by KanadaHye View Post
    Standing stones are common thoughtout Western Europe. Newgrange is a 5,000 year old tomb and is a different type of structure.

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    • #52
      Re: Armenian Stone Henge Story - CNN

      Originally posted by retro View Post
      Standing stones are common thoughtout Western Europe. Newgrange is a 5,000 year old tomb and is a different type of structure.
      I know, but the mystery behind these structures are all the same. That is, how did people move these giant boulders/rocks without modern equipment? I suppose it's difficult to fathom that there were civilizations that were just as if not more intelligent even though they weren't as technologically advanced. This is due to people believing that the world has been historically progressive.

      Originally posted by UrMistake View Post
      wow now you all people forget what our grandparents told about our history and our roots,and some how you all made it to no armenian has lived before 500 B.C, to explain armenian history one is have to take as example the development of greek history,and it goes back as 10 000 B.C so the most ancient people in the region is armenians with out doubt,maybe we are not living in those lands but our foot prints are still worm and misinterpreted by denial,some people dont wont to believe that such a small nation so few people are so ancient with huge cultural heritage can not be.

      Our government must promote our history like the greeks did.
      Precisely. Prior to the Armenian nation we were just tribes of Armenians roaming the highlands. Much like the diaspora today roaming the world.
      Last edited by KanadaHye; 04-08-2011, 05:08 AM.
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      • #53
        Re: Armenian Stone Henge Story - CNN

        Originally posted by UrMistake View Post
        wow now you all people forget what our grandparents told about our history and our roots,and some how you all made it to no armenian has lived before 500 B.C, to explain armenian history one is have to take as example the development of greek history,and it goes back as 10 000 B.C so the most ancient people in the region is armenians with out doubt,maybe we are not living in those lands but our foot prints are still worm and misinterpreted by denial,some people dont wont to believe that such a small nation so few people are so ancient with huge cultural heritage can not be.

        Our government must promote our history like the greeks did.
        No one said there were no Armenians prior to 500 BC.
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        • #54
          Re: Armenian Stone Henge Story - CNN

          Originally posted by Siggie View Post
          No one said there were no Armenians prior to 500 BC.
          WHAT??? Not only was it said, you personally agreed with the notion.
          "Nobody can give you freedom. Nobody can give you equality or justice or anything. If you're a man, you take it." ~Malcolm X

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          • #55
            Re: Armenian Stone Henge Story - CNN

            Originally posted by bell-the-cat View Post
            It began to loose credibility towards the middle, and had lost it entirely by the end.

            The (what sounds like) "Gubelitepe" in "Historical Armenia" mentioned is actually Gobekli Tepe in southern Turkey near Urfa, geographically a part of northern Syria and nowhere near any territory that could be called "Historical Armenia". .
            No xxxx? Urfa is northern Syria ? I wonder wher Crasus got bitten by Artavazdes troops? Was it in Scotland? Or maybe in Brighton (beach) ? And EDESIA probably was an Irish colony in Urfa....
            Last edited by Siggie; 04-08-2011, 07:12 AM. Reason: fixed quote and deleted duplicate

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            • #56
              Re: Armenian Stone Henge Story - CNN

              Originally posted by KanadaHye View Post
              WHAT??? Not only was it said, you personally agreed with the notion.
              Seriously? I said I understood what Bell was saying about "Armenians" and claiming it was in historic Armenia 3000 years ago. Do you really not see the difference? I interpreted it as a semantic argument. Obviously our people didn't sprout randomly under a tree in 100BC...


              Originally posted by Mukuch View Post

              No xxxx? Urfa is northern Syria ? I wonder wher Crasus got bitten by Artavazdes troops? Was it in Scotland? Or maybe in Brighton (beach) ?
              Related to this, but not directed at Mukuch...

              Everything I've seen says 6 miles from Urfa and not in Urfa. I don't know 6 miles in what direction or where the borders are... that's why I said expressing an opinion on this wouldn't be an informed one. Besides, even if it's outside the border, it doesn't mean it wasn't built by the nearest country there because it was an ideal location for it. You can't move the mountain within your borders then build something there. It just seems like there's no reliable physical evidence yet from the site itself as to what the place was, what it was used for, and who built it.

              Anyone have a more precise location for it?
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              • #57
                Re: Armenian Stone Henge Story - CNN

                Originally posted by Siggie View Post
                Seriously? I said I understood what Bell was saying about "Armenians" and claiming it was in historic Armenia 3000 years ago. Do you really not see the difference? I interpreted it as a semantic argument. Obviously our people didn't sprout randomly under a tree in 100BC...
                In the semantic sense, there are no Armenians today since we refer to ourselves as HAI/HAY/HYE.
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                • #58
                  Re: Armenian Stone Henge Story - CNN

                  Originally posted by KanadaHye View Post
                  In the semantic sense, there are no Armenians today since we refer to ourselves as HAI/HAY/HYE.
                  *pounds head against a wall* Ahhhh.... so much easier than talking to you.
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                  • #59
                    Re: Armenian Stone Henge Story - CNN

                    Source: xxxISH VIRTUAL LIBRARY. A division of American-Israeli cooperative enterprise

                    http://www.xxxishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/judaica/ejud_0002_0002_0_01325.html


                    ARMENIA, in Transcaucasia. Historically its boundaries embraced a much wider area in different periods. The Armenian diaspora is scattered in many countries of the world and still identifies its past history and future aspirations with the wider connotations of the term Armenia. xxxish historical, exegetical, and descriptive sources reveal knowledge of the variations in geographical area and history of this remarkable people. The fate and modes of existence of the Armenians have been compared in some essential features to those of the xxxs.

                    Much of the original Armenia is now the area of Kurdistan in Turkey. However, from the seventh to ninth centuries the Arab conquerors called by the name Armenia a province which included entire Transcaucasia, with the cities Bardhaʿa, now Barda in the present Azerbaijan, where the governors mostly resided, and *Tiflis (now Tbilisi, capital of Georgia). The province is also sometimes called Armenia in eastern sources. The *Khazars were sometimes credited with Armenian origin: this is stated by the seventh-century Armenian bishop and historian Sebeos, and the Arab geographer Dimashqī (d. 1327). In the 13th to 14th centuries the Crimea and the area to the east were known as Gazaria (Khazaria) to western authors, and as Maritime Armenia to Armenian authors. The term Armenia often included much of Anatolia, or otherwise referred to cities on the Syrian-Mesopotamian route (now Turkey, near the Syrian frontier) such as Haran (Ḥarrān), Edessa (Urfa), and Nisibis (Naṣībīn).
                    Last edited by Mukuch; 04-08-2011, 07:58 AM.

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                    • #60
                      Re: Armenian Stone Henge Story - CNN

                      "The Hurri-Mitanni kingdom of Armenia kept close contact with its western neighbor, Hittite or Hatti land. Masses of population were often transplanted from one country to the other."



                      Taken from: "The First Great Civilizations," London, 1967 by Jacquetta Hawkes

                      "Yet the Hurrians did not disappear from history. Away to the North in their Armenian homeland, they entrenched themselves and build up the kingdom of Urartu."

                      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacquetta_Hawkes
                      Last edited by KanadaHye; 04-08-2011, 08:11 AM.
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