Was he a hero?

[Sip]

Re: Was he a hero?

Sip makes a good point. He's not making a value-judgment about the linked site.

To be fair, I was making a value judgement in the beginning based on what Lampron said but I take that back and you are right. I don't make a value judgement anymore (other than judging it has 0, or actually maybe negative value for me personally ). Yes I am a jackass when it comes to Turkish heroes (well, at least about the "national" ones they love to rant and rave about and lock you up or kill you if you disagree).

[Armanen]

Re: Was he a hero?

To be fair, I was making a value judgement in the beginning based on what Lampron said but I take that back and you are right. I don't make a value judgement anymore (other than judging it has 0, or actually maybe negative value for me personally ). Yes I am a jackass when it comes to Turkish heroes (well, at least about the "national" ones they love to rant and rave about and lock you up or kill you if you disagree).

I don't think you are being a jack@ss at all by having that attitude. It is a good attitude.

[Siggie]

Re: Was he a hero?

To be fair, I was making a value judgement in the beginning based on what Lampron said but I take that back and you are right. I don't make a value judgement anymore (other than judging it has 0, or actually maybe negative value for me personally ). Yes I am a jackass when it comes to Turkish heroes (well, at least about the "national" ones they love to rant and rave about and lock you up or kill you if you disagree).

I think all governments probably do some editing of history, but with Turkey, you'd be right to be extra dubious.

[bell-the-cat]

Re: Was he a hero?

Obviously I haven't read a word of it and don't plan to.

Even if it is highly accurate and totally awesome, I still don't think we want to link to it if it leaves out, you know, the little G-word. That's pretty much what I was saying so hope this is the end of the "argument which never was"

In other words, you have read a post about a webpage that has the words "hero" and "Ataturk" in it, and your knee-jerk reaction, without even bothering to read the webpage, is to call the whole of it "garbage". Do you think that is a productive attitude to take? No wonder most non-Armenians respond to Armenian protests about this or that by thinking "probably just more Armenian bull".

And the webpage does mention the Armenian Genocide, and calls it a genocide.

[bell-the-cat]

Re: Was he a hero?

Sip makes a good point. He's not making a value-judgment about the linked site. He's simply saying that when we do encounter sites that are inaccurate, sources of misinformation, or whatever, that we make them appear more legitimate by linking to them.

The words "By linking to such garbage" is not making a judgment about the linked site?

To stop a url becoming a clickable and searchable link, just untick the "Automatically parse links in text" option in the advanced editing window.
See, there is now no clickable link: http://www.moreorless.au.com/heroes/ataturk.html

[Siggie]

Re: Was he a hero?

The words "By linking to such garbage" is not making a judgment about the linked site?

To stop a url becoming a clickable and searchable link, just untick the "Automatically parse links in text" option in the advanced editing window.
See, there is now no clickable link: http://www.moreorless.au.com/heroes/ataturk.html

I interpreted what he said as taking the OPs word for it that it was a "bad" site and just saying that it can benefit such sites to talk about them. You're right though, it's best to see for ones' self than to have a knee-jerk reaction.

As for the urls. I don't think that solves the problem because it will still be read by search engines whether or not it's clickable.

[bell-the-cat]

Re: Was he a hero?

As for the urls. I don't think that solves the problem because it will still be read by search engines whether or not it's clickable.

I don't think it will be read by search engines - they look for links, not urls. When it is not clickable is just a url and is not a link.

[Christina]

Re: Was he a hero?

Bravo Bell!

As usual your posts are magnificent!
I will share the how to undo url with a friend. He is an IT Computer techie, so I wonder if he knows this.
ha ha if he doesn't!

[Siggie]

Re: Was he a hero?

Bravo Bell!

As usual your posts are magnificent!
I will share the how to undo url with a friend. He is an IT Computer techie, so I wonder if he knows this.
ha ha if he doesn't!

Check with the programmers. Particularly those who do webpages.
All IT professionals are not created equal. I say this because my own resources are a systems person and a network person and had no idea about this.

[bell-the-cat]

Re: Was he a hero?

Check with the programmers. Particularly those who do webpages.
All IT professionals are not created equal. I say this because my own resources are a systems person and a network person and had no idea about this.

Yep, to a designer of websites a "link" means something specific - the link is a piece of code that will lead you to something else. Website addresses (urls) are not actually links in that precise way (though the wider public might think of them as links). I'm assuming that when Google uses "links" to increase a website's search engine position it means a coded, clickable, link in a webpage (in its help pages google only talks about "links", not "urls").