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Racism is alive and stronger than ever in Glendale

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  • #31
    Hahaha. Sure sure.

    Likewise Viollete.

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    • #32
      Originally posted by GSTracer05
      Hahaha. Sure sure.

      Likewise Viollete.
      right name, wrong spelling.

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      • #33
        Originally posted by violette829
        right name, wrong spelling.
        I'm Sorry. Violette. Just woke up heh. Better?

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        • #34
          well, now it's clear to me why so much racism does exist towards armenians, and it's because there's so much denial about it. i don't care what you all believe or 'think'---i know what i saw and i know how this grouchy racist would have reacted had there been two anglo customers in front of him; he greeted me but he totally ignored these people in front of me! now, for all the 'smart' ones out there, i am NOT contradicting myself here! he greeted me 'cuz he saw the look on my face and how vigilant and observant i was! had i gotten on my cell and started talking in armenian he would have given me the same crappy dis-service.

          these days racism and prejudice are usually so subtle that you almost got to look for it to see it!

          i.e. have you ever noticed how physical contact is avoided with certain races when dealing with money? instead of putting the change in their hands, the cashier puts the change on the counter? i know it sounds 'crazy' but it's not! that's what i thought the first time a friend told me this; but when you pay attention to the little things there's a lot there! and it reflects the changing times; you don't see burning crosses on the front lawn these days! no moron could miss that, but it's really easy to overlook the subtle 'nicer' forms of racism.

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          • #35
            theres nothing wrong with racism.

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            • #36
              Originally posted by hyebruin
              well, now it's clear to me why so much racism does exist towards armenians, and it's because there's so much denial about it. i don't care what you all believe or 'think'---i know what i saw and i know how this grouchy racist would have reacted had there been two anglo customers in front of him; he greeted me but he totally ignored these people in front of me! now, for all the 'smart' ones out there, i am NOT contradicting myself here! he greeted me 'cuz he saw the look on my face and how vigilant and observant i was! had i gotten on my cell and started talking in armenian he would have given me the same crappy dis-service.

              these days racism and prejudice are usually so subtle that you almost got to look for it to see it!

              i.e. have you ever noticed how physical contact is avoided with certain races when dealing with money? instead of putting the change in their hands, the cashier puts the change on the counter? i know it sounds 'crazy' but it's not! that's what i thought the first time a friend told me this; but when you pay attention to the little things there's a lot there! and it reflects the changing times; you don't see burning crosses on the front lawn these days! no moron could miss that, but it's really easy to overlook the subtle 'nicer' forms of racism.
              Or perhaps you're observations are biased... maybe you're noticing and remembering the instances that support your theory. If you were on your cell phone I would have given you a dirty look too. Maybe he didn't want to be ignored or treated like a machine. Maybe he wanted to be smiled at, acknowledged, greeted, etc? I always try to talk to whatever sales rep, customer service rep, cashier, whatever, because they're not just things that perform a function, they're people.

              I've noticed countless Armenians, even those that speak English, act like they are the best damn thing in the world and can't be bothered with lowly people and that usually means everyone else. I've noticed many Armenians act that arrogantly and egocentrically. Are my observations biased, probably and that's why I don't draw sweeping conclusions based on them. All I'm saying is that I've seen and observed that.

              You observed a behavior... You didn't read his mind. There are MANY possible explanations for it and other posters here have mentioned a few of them. You can't just choose the one you want to believe.

              If your pizza delivery guy is late, you shouldn't assume that he's messing around and not doing his job.
              If someone cuts you off you shouldn't assume that they did on purpose or because they're a jerk.
              Give people the benefit of the doubt sometimes.
              People have a very well supported tendency to attribute negative behaviors of others to internal factors and their own to external things. It's called the Actor-Observer Effect (similar to the Fundamental Attribution Error, but more specific).
              I failed my exam because the teacher sucks or because i didn't study. He/She failed because they're stupid.
              I tripped because the sidewalk is uneven. He/she tripped because they're clumsy.

              The thread hasn't outlived it's lifetime when people disagree with you.

              I don't think anyone is arguing that the cashier was wrong in his treatment of those customers. They're just saying that it may not be because he's racist.
              Last edited by Siggie; 11-08-2004, 04:26 PM.
              [COLOR=#4b0082][B][SIZE=4][FONT=trebuchet ms]“If you think you can, or you can’t, you’re right.”
              -Henry Ford[/FONT][/SIZE][/B][/COLOR]

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              • #37
                Could've been racism, but could've just been feeling annoyed.

                I've worked with customers too, and it really is annoying when they don't say hi, or talk to each other in a foreign language. Couple that with a long day at work, and it can be quite irritating.

                That is why, like Siggie, I always try to be nice with whoever I have to deal with, when in stores or anywhere else.

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                • #38
                  Siggie, you're my hero!

                  Or is it heroine?

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                  • #39
                    I was the cashier for one weekend at this computer show where I sold about 8000 tickets all by myself (2 14 hour days) ... getting paid about $6 an hour. I think that was about when I decided I want to do a PhD instead ... and I was right! The PhD was much easier.
                    this post = teh win.

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by GSTracer05
                      Siggie, you're my hero!

                      Or is it heroine?
                      Heroine... are you still confused about whether I'm female or male?
                      [COLOR=#4b0082][B][SIZE=4][FONT=trebuchet ms]“If you think you can, or you can’t, you’re right.”
                      -Henry Ford[/FONT][/SIZE][/B][/COLOR]

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