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  • #131
    Originally posted by angelik22
    uff why does it matter whose more armenian than who? this is why we wont get anywhere- we need to learn how to stick together like the jews....
    Not going to happen without racial, linguistic and cultural unity.
    Inknasirutyun a petk.
    But it will sooner or later.
    Like I said, it took Greeks a century since independence. We'll do it sooner.
    Last edited by ckBejug; 12-01-2004, 01:29 PM.

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    • #132
      umm we wont unless certain people stop biatching and stop the superiority complex bullxxxx theyre deiplaying! uff ..thats all i have left... a big UFF!! were likeoil and water- armeians dont like to stick together....it sickens me!

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      • #133
        Originally posted by angelik22
        umm we wont unless certain people stop biatching and stop the superiority complex bullxxxx theyre deiplaying! uff ..thats all i have left... a big UFF!! were likeoil and water- armeians dont like to stick together....it sickens me!
        Well, if it offers you any solace, in this thread, most armenians agree that one or two particular posters do not know what they're talking about.

        Ignore my friend....ignore..

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        • #134
          Originally posted by Crimson Glow
          At least you recognize it for what it is: Tough love. Nothing ever evolves without pain, and facing the demons that plague you. You have to understand my frustration. Being somewhere where no one has even heard of Armenians, I was ecstatic to say the least when I came across Armenian Chat! Than I was introduced to the divisions of the "different types" of Armenians, the different dialects, all the thug wannabes, all the real thugs dismembering our reputation, etc. To say I was disheartened would be the understatement of a lifetime. To see how far we've fallen is horrifying. And to close your eyes and pretend you can make it all go away by simply saying "marry Armenian".....is a cop out. There are bigger problems to keeping our culture than that over simplified, cliché of a phrase. Look at it from this standpoint: It was a lot of the Cali-100% Armenians that brought me to that state of disappointment. So if marrying Armenian is what's going to save our dying population, why is this the case? I mean, help me understand, here. All you guys want is a head count? Just increase the population? Doesn't matter how far the quality of that population falls?

          And no, Goey. I haven't forgotten the great things about being Armenian. My friends and co-workers are sick to death of me bringing it up. Well...actually....a few of them have become obsessed, and now bug ME about Armenians. I spent a decent chunk of change picking up some things on eBay from Armenia, there is a massive Armenian flag on my living room wall (I love when people walk in, and you see that "wtf??" look on their face, but they try not to show it), and Paul (Baron's favorite, and mine) is often heard blasting from the home and car. In spite of having known approximately 0 Armenians, I still speak the launguage fluently. I may struggle with some of the "big" words, but I'd have no trouble in general holding a conversation....or singing along to Paul with Baron. I guess when I talk to people, the vibe I'm getting from large Armenian communities is that being around so many Armenians, the simple joy and pride of the culture has somewhat been lost. It's almost become like...a sub-culture, if you will. So I guess the old saying holds true: Everything in moderation, because too much of a good thing can be bad.
          Yes, Crimson I understand you. I dont know how it feels to not be around Armenians, because I've been around them all my life. But yes the Armenians in LA have lost a lot of who and what they are. But I want to make something clear. I have stated many times on this forum that I will marry and Armenian and only an Armenian. Yes, I do feel that will keep the culture but I always want you to understand that this is how I have been raised. And yes you are right, there are bigger problems to face with this culture.

          And let me add, when you said "to close your eyes and pretend you can make it all go away by simply saying "marry Armenian".....is a cop out." I totally understand you. All these Armenians marrying each other hasnt solved anything, because they do not know what it means to be a human being much less an Armenian. But for me marrying an Armenian is a step closer to solving that problem, because I know in so many ways he will feel the pain and love I feel for my people. Other then that I do not know what else to say, because I hold strong in what I believe and cannot let go of it. And also I feel I feel it is right thing for me. So, I guess each person is different.
          You can't hold a man down without staying down with him.

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          • #135
            lol Crimson, you're making me blush here..

            The differences in our way of thinking is probably due to the fact that you haven't been around many Armenians. Have I lived a sheltered life where I can't speak to anybody who's not Armenian? Of course not. Do I try my hardest to become friends with Armenians only because they're Armenian? Nope. However, of all my friends, I have, with time, just grown a lot closer to my Armenian ones, without any real effort. As gaucho said, speaking and thinking in Armenian are natural things for me, and I cannot be at ease in a home where I have to express myself in another language, or with a wife to whom I can't express my deepest feelings in the language that would allow me to do so most naturally (that's if I one day choose to marry).

            Now, on to the topic of WTF do numbers have to do with the overall quality of Armenians. First of all, I'd like to tell you to not despair. What you have seen on a chat site or what people have told you about LA is not necessarily true or representative.

            Where I disagree with your logic is that you seem certain that you will marry some bimbo Armenian lady. That is not true. There are many, many intelligent and enjoyable Armenian women, and their conversations do not stop at shopping or money (just take a look at some of our female posters). Now, if a smart Armenian man like yourself marries a smart Armenian woman, chances are you'll raise a smart Armenian kid. But if a smart Armenian man like yourself marries an odar, and a smart Armenian lady marries an odar, chances are that I don't know what kind of child either of you will raise. If you're going to marry a non-Armenian..go ahead. Inch esem? But it is unfair to misrepresent the "need" that many of us feel to be with an Armenian as some sort of cop-out or useless sacrifice for the sake of the nation (although in the first place, I don't see it as useless, but that's not the main point here).

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            • #136
              tigranes lay off the xxxxing crack for a while will you. Those "rats" you speak about are Armenian fathers that go and tolerate the worst of conditions so that they could send some money home so that their wives and children dont starve.
              After the kind of crap that you said i dont even consider you Armenian anymore. At this point you are just as bad as a turk in my eyes and if i ever saw you in person my first instinct would probably be to beat the crap out of your self hating ass because i realized thats what you are, you try to create this fantasy world where Armenians are something different, more "white" perhaps, in the process you start rejecting the real Armenian culture and think that you know what being Armenian is about. Go stamp a fukking swastika on your forehead and call yourself russian or whatever the hell it is that you are desperately trying to turn Armenians into, i promise you noone here will miss you.

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              • #137
                Tigran has spoken.

                A special bravo for saying "you try to create this fantasy world where Armenians are something different, more "white" perhaps, in the process you start rejecting the real Armenian culture". Very well said, and very true, as demonstrated by the fact that baron Tigranes seems to think that Gor Mkhitarian's banjo and AFRICAN djembe are REAL Armenian.

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                • #138
                  Open Attachement for the ULTIMATE 2k5 battle!
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                  • #139
                    stop fighting...

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                    • #140
                      Originally posted by nunechka
                      stop fighting...
                      Yes make love, not war...

                      huh nune

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