"White People"

[CatWoman]

okay winoman, the topic is why are Armenians referring to others as 'white-people' in their conversations? When we are white as well?

You're getting too deep into the cultral aspects, that's not necessary. "We're close to turks and persians but are more like Arabs"? We're not discussing our culture here. Our 'culture' is Armenian yet our 'race' is white. German culture is different from lets say Greek culture, yet they're both considered white. I believe this is what Armobarbi meant.

I'll take (being) human over rodent anyday....

That doesn't say much about you, are there un-human humans in this world as well?

[winoman]

Well doll - you were indicating your pride in being European...I figured I'd think of how to perhaps briefly describe who Armenains are - put some of the more or less important characteristics or identifiers...and the European connection didn't quite make the grade. In fact we share most things with the peoples around us - in the Caucuses, the Middle East, the Balkans and Anatolia (OK Duh) - and of these areas - only the Balkans fall within what is considered as Europe - and I would argue that aside from Orthodoxy (not universal in the Balkans but certainly a major factor) - we are (in general) more alike other Middle Easterners and such then we are like Europeans - if you look at our traditions and how we have lived and such...again its Lavash bread and Paklava - not coissants or danishes...

[ArmoBarbi]

okay winoman, the topic is why are Armenians referring to others as 'white-people' in their conversations? When we are white as well?

You're getting too deep into the cultral aspects, that's not necessary. "We're close to turks and persians but are more like Arabs"? We're not discussing our culture here. Our 'culture' is Armenian yet our 'race' is white. German culture is different from lets say Greek culture, yet they're both considered white. I believe this is what Armobarbi meant.

That doesn't say much about you, are there un-human humans in this world as well?

You understood the thread exactly right.

I didnt even bother with the rodent thing. It makes no sense. lol

[ArmenianKid]

thank u! that is what i have been trying to get at.

[winoman]

"white" is not a "race" it is a color - and it does not describe most Armenians I know - outside of an occasional Albino and perhaps if its found that Micheal Jackson is the bastard son of Cher....

[ArmoBarbi]

Well doll - you were indicating your pride in being European...I figured I'd think of how to perhaps briefly describe who Armenains are - put some of the more or less important characteristics or identifiers...and the European connection didn't quite make the grade. In fact we share most things with the peoples around us - in the Caucuses, the Middle East, the Balkans and Anatolia (OK Duh) - and of these areas - only the Balkans fall within what is considered as Europe - and I would argue that aside from Orthodoxy (not universal in the Balkans but certainly a major factor) - we are (in general) more alike other Middle Easterners and such then we are like Europeans - if you look at our traditions and how we have lived and such...again its Lavash bread and Paklava - not coissants or danishes...

This argument is just silly, Im sorry. What does eating Lavash have to do with my RACE? There are many many many different cultures and ethnicities within our WHITE (lol) race.

You call the current classification system laughable yet you suggest going by food when differentiating between races? K..

[winoman]

I imagine that Armenians who refer to - I don't know - WASPy Americans? or otherwise ethnically indistinguishable Caucasian Americans - are trying to distinguish themselves the other direction - disasociation with the prevelant culture and group - to set themselves aprt as something different/special etc....I normally just call us the Armenian tribe.

[Anonymouse]

"white" is not a "race" it is a color - and it does not describe most Armenians I know - outside of an occasional Albino and perhaps if its found that Micheal Jackson is the bastard son of Cher....

I don't know which "Armenians" you associate with, but most Armenians are white, as opposed to the exceptions, being the mixed brown ones. My green eyes and fair skin are all I need. As far as you not being Armenian, probably never having been to Armenia, your opinion on this matters little. This thread asked for why Armenians call others white and not themselves. To this I have said that Armenians who consider themselves brownies are the ones that are mixed for any Armenian who is conscious of their whiteness would not do so. Occasionally it is prudent to stick to the topic as opposed to type on and on about essentially nothing, which you seem to do. What does someone who doesn't speak Armenian, is not Armenian, has probably never been to Armenia have anything to say on this topic? Absolutely nothing.

[ArmenianKid]

"white" is not a "race" it is a color - and it does not describe most Armenians I know - outside of an occasional Albino and perhaps if its found that Micheal Jackson is the bastard son of Cher....

by white we mean european. germans italians and english are all from europe but they are white. armenians are the same!

[winoman]

This argument is just silly, Im sorry. What does eating Lavash have to do with my RACE? There are many many many different cultures and ethnicities within our WHITE (lol) race.

You call the current classification system laughable yet you suggest going by food when differentiating between races? K..

Are you really discounting food as a measuring stick for culture? ....guess why its me who has the Anthropology degree and not yourself...