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Originally posted by Che_KaChe che, voch meg bagas pan ga im klkhis mech. Thank you very much.
Simply put, I will never understand how someone can put limits on compassion and decide it's time to be prejudicial.
You may personally enjoy the sight of two dudes touching lips together in an erotic way, but some of us don't. It is our choice. I don't infringe upon your right to be gay, don't try to teach me or tell me what I can or cannot like or be tolerant of.
I'm tolerant of your right to do what you want to do in your own time and be gay. I am not tolerant of the prospect of seeing to males kiss or anything. And I will reserve the right to express my dislike of it. I am intolerant of you being intolerant of me because I don't happen to want to view a movie about two homosexual males. Get over it. I'm tired of the whining militant homosexual frenzy over how no one is "tolerant". That word "tolerance" is an over-used and abused cliche, a battle cry of yesterday. You are already homosexual. What more do you want? Are the rest of us somehow getting in the way of you from being gay? Stop with this whole victim mentality.
Oh, and go and enjoy your movie with some popcorn. I'll never be there. And besides, Heath Ledger is a B level actor at best.Achkerov kute.
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I'm probably the least 'militant' gay man you'll come across. I'm quiet, I don't go to gay pride events, I don't proclaim my gayness unless I'm asked. I don't see it as a defining characteristic of my being.
Truth be told, I believe it is your right to dislike homosexuality. Hey, it doesn't really make much sense to me, but I can't deny how I feel. What I object to is the intolerance of it. No, more than intolerance. I can't think of the English word, but in Armenian it's "vokh." I've never understood it. I couldn't feel that way about any group of people, maybe because I've felt it directed at me. (I won't use the intolerant Turk card.)
I wasn't objecting to your refusal to see the movie. I'm not gonna see it either. It does look lame. In fact, my original post was meant for the poster above you. He used a word I don't care to repeat. More than that, he seemed to have 'vokh' towards gays. Your subsequent post merely instigated me further. When you responded with your idea of 'limited compassion,' that's when I began to direct my comments to you.
Don't like gay people, fine. Don't agree with their 'lifestyle,' fine. Vote against gay marriage, great. Decide not to see gay movies, good. But don't go out of your way to make gay people feel that they aren't worthy human beings. That's my point.
I often wonder about what prejudicial Armenians would think when they found out that I am one of the staunchest supporters of Armenian culture. I plan to dedicate a chunk of my life to promoting our language. I plan to retire in Armenia. In my wildest dreams, I want to adopt a child from Armenia, and learn Eastern Armenian to give him or her the best upbringing I can. (But I can't. Single men, unlike single women, are not allowed to adopt in Armenia.) Would they still be comfortable in calling me derogatory names, when they realize we have more in common than they'd first thought? Anyway, I'm just babbling...
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Originally posted by Che_KaI'm probably the least 'militant' gay man you'll come across. I'm quiet, I don't go to gay pride events, I don't proclaim my gayness unless I'm asked. I don't see it as a defining characteristic of my being.
Truth be told, I believe it is your right to dislike homosexuality. Hey, it doesn't really make much sense to me, but I can't deny how I feel. What I object to is the intolerance of it. No, more than intolerance. I can't think of the English word, but in Armenian it's "vokh." I've never understood it. I couldn't feel that way about any group of people, maybe because I've felt it directed at me. (I won't use the intolerant Turk card.)
I wasn't objecting to your refusal to see the movie. I'm not gonna see it either. It does look lame. In fact, my original post was meant for the poster above you. He used a word I don't care to repeat. More than that, he seemed to have 'vokh' towards gays. Your subsequent post merely instigated me further. When you responded with your idea of 'limited compassion,' that's when I began to direct my comments to you.
Don't like gay people, fine. Don't agree with their 'lifestyle,' fine. Vote against gay marriage, great. Decide not to see gay movies, good. But don't go out of your way to make gay people feel that they aren't worthy human beings. That's my point.
I often wonder about what prejudicial Armenians would think when they found out that I am one of the staunchest supporters of Armenian culture. I plan to dedicate a chunk of my life to promoting our language. I plan to retire in Armenia. In my wildest dreams, I want to adopt a child from Armenia, and learn Eastern Armenian to give him or her the best upbringing I can. (But I can't. Single men, unlike single women, are not allowed to adopt in Armenia.) Would they still be comfortable in calling me derogatory names, when they realize we have more in common than they'd first thought? Anyway, I'm just babbling...
But being gay is xxxxing disgusting. Its hard for some gays to understand that the EXISTENCE of homosexuality is offending to some people. Being gay is first of all in my mind, one of the most disgustings things u can do, and second of all, Christian gays completly disrespect the religion and by that I AM OFFENDED.
You dont have to do anything for me to be offended, being the way u are is bad enough.
If your as open minded as you say we should be, than you will understand that.
Isn't being gay a chemical inbalance in ur brain? Its like a deformity, it should be fixed, try ur best to be not-gay. lol.
PS: I highly disadvice of your visit to Armenia, and even more dangerous, your residence in Armenia. If the people knew you were gay, you'd be seriously hurt, if not killed.Last edited by ace; 12-10-2005, 05:12 PM.
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Dear Ace
Originally posted by aceYour dreams moved me. Really, I plan on moving back to Armenia and having a family there too.
But being gay is xxxxing disgusting. Its hard for some gays to understand that the EXISTENCE of homosexuality is offending to some people. Being gay is first of all in my mind, one of the most disgustings things u can do, and second of all, Christian gays completly disrespect the religion and by that I AM OFFENDED.
You dont have to do anything for me to be offended, being the way u are is bad enough.
If your as open minded as you say we should be, than you will understand that.
Isn't being gay a chemical inbalance in ur brain? Its like a deformity, it should be fixed, try ur best to be not-gay. lol.
PS: I highly disadvice of your visit to Armenia, and even more dangerous, your residence in Armenia. If the people knew you were gay, you'd be seriously hurt, if not killed.
Bein gay is not a chemical imbalance of the brain, or a deformity.
Please see the link: "Just the Facts About Sexual Orientation & Youth:
A Primer for Principals, Educators and School Personnel" It will give you a perspective of sexual orientation. http://www.apa.org/pi/lgbc/publicati...tthefacts.html
It also states in there: "The Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders, published by the American Psychiatric Association and defining the standard of the field, does not include homosexuality as a mental disorder. All other major health professional organizations have supported the American Psychiatric Association in its declassification of homosexuality as a mental disorder in 1973. Thus, the idea that homosexuality is a mental disorder or that the emergence of same-gender sexual desires among some adolescents is in any way abnormal or mentally unhealthy has no support among health and mental health professional organizations."
Homosexuality might have a lot of influences, including environmental. But a lot of scientific research has been currently pointing the finger at a specific gene. Please see the link:
Why are these male flies having an orgy? Because scientists have altered their genetic structure.
If homosexuality is genetic then there is a simple explanation why natural selection hasn't gotten rid of it. A lot of homosexual men marry and have children because of the intolerance of people like you that don't understand the scientific nature of the condition. It is not a choice of a "lifestyle." These people don't choose to like men the same way as you don't choose to like women.
Want to get rid of homosexuality for good? Then allow and be tolerant of same sex marriage, and be tolerant of same sex partnership. The more you scare these people and the more they marry off into heterosexual relationships, the more the gene propogates and lingers among humanity.
Anyway, for all you nonbelievers, go and see the movie. It will make all of you cry its so good.
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Originally posted by Flashlite
kidding.
if wat u said is true. i completly agree with everything u said.Last edited by ace; 12-10-2005, 08:58 PM.
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