Should Armenian women stay Pure for marriage?

[Moldy Cheese]

You are.

No, you are. Tee hee.

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Could you please explain why you feel this way?

Well, first and foremost, our ancestors and our "non-assimiliated" Armenians (for example, the ones in Armenia) are the closest thing we have to the original Armenian culture. And Armenian women in Armenia are abstinant.

The ones that aren't are the ones that changed due to the pressures of Western culture, they are the assimilated Armenians. If we are thriving to maintain our original ways, our women have always been pure..."abstinant," and they should continue to do so.

If your going to say that the assimilated ones have "changed" for the better (since i was intending that change towards that direction isn't good). Than I would like to know how it is better.

In Europe, America, and South America, (amongst the Armenian communities) the HIV infection rate has gone up, divorce rates have gone up, drug use has gone up, the rate of crimes committed BY Armenians has gone up and drop out rates have gone up.

Theres virually no HIV and no divorce in the Republic. The crime rate, drug use and drop out rate is LOWER than western Armenian communities but the reason for why their is any AT ALL is because of the current economically and social status of the nation. (Considering there was virtually no crime or drug during the blossoming "soviet days." - when we were economically stable)

As I said before, the Armenians in Armenia are the closest thing we have to our original culture. And considering that the crime rate, HIV rate, divorce rate and all that xxxx, is LOWER in Armenia when compared to other Armenian communities...I have reached a conclusion that the way THEY live is the way we've always lived in our ancestrial lands. And their ways are more...respectable? for the lack of a better word.

A womans purity (or virginity) has been highly valued and respected in the Armenian community for thousands of years. It is expected in the Christian faith to only devote yourself to your husband - and, in the Armenian communities still loyal to our ancestrial culture, a woman is expected to be a virgin upon marriage.

Our women were originally like this, the direction that they are going in according to FACTS and STATISTICS does not lead us toward a more socially stable people.


For thousands of years, I believe our culture has been very sacred, honest and respected. And in our culture, women are abstinant - we need to preserve that ideaology.

What do you mean by "pure"? Like PURE FLORIDA ORANGE JUICE?

Actually I think all Armenian girls should have an ace up their sleave. No pun intended.

Pure as in abstinant or virgins upon marriage.

I don't get the whole "ace up their sleave" thing? Whatta u mean?

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Now as far as me being a HYPOCRITE when I say Armenian women should stay abstinant and the men should not - true. That is hypocritical in nature. But the double standard is logical. DONT DENY IT OR ARGUE AGAINST IT, a womans virginity ALL ACROSS the world has of more value than a mans. ANY MAN would give himself up for sex - men don't care. If a WOMAN was to give herself up everytime she got the CHANCE TO HAVE SEX...she would take on a prostitute like status. But As I said before, the CHANGE that you are insisting on us making shows NO SIGNS of leading us to a more Christian like and socially stable people.

Just like the Turks show no signs of accepting the Armenian culture and people.

Our mothers are loyal, our fathers are proud, our sons are strong, and our daughters are pure. We do NOT have to change that, and as soon as we stop EXPECTING and start ACCEPTING Armenian woman who are not abstinant, the sooner that change will happen.

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On a more personal note: Though it will obviously bring Armenian women and men closer to each other as far as political power goes:

I dont want to see the day where I hear men talk about how they f ucked the brains out of all the Armenian girls, I dont want to hear the day where some Turkish guys talk about how they seduced Armenian women into suckin their d icks and how they busted a fat nut on their faces just to prove how dirty our race is (like how they raped them because they thought our women were w hores and that was the only respect they deserved). I dont want to see the day where a man is talkin about how good my wifes p ussy was back when they were in college, and I dont want to see the day my daughter is considered to be the school-s lut and how she gives real good head.

THAT ^ is what your taking a step towards.

If your ok with ANY of that ^, your already a casualty in the 1915 genocide against getting rid of our people, and our culture.

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I would just like people to be aware of what they are doing. I'm not shoving this down anybodys throat. Any self-respecting Armenian man who has respect for his culture and the woman he loves, would expect purity from his wife. This is your FAMILY, the mother of your kids and your fathers hars...you really want her to be a pornic lierp?

Cause these days, very rarely do woman who have sex and not over due it...they start at xxxxing 15 and do half the guys on campus..if your a guy and not aware of this, your girlfriend has lied to u. (Unless of course she's an Armenian angel )

So don't tell me "she can be non-abstinant, and still not be a hoe" (and when i say hoe i mean a woman who has had sex with like...15-30 people - true, she can, but according to the society that your insisting on us being like...that type of woman is going to be very rare.

[One-Way]

^ Yup. Lots of girls start at 15 and ends up being with a bunch of guys before 18.

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^ Yup. Lots of girls start at 15 and ends up being with a bunch of guys before 18.

Like my school...and half the girls I've f ucked. It's sad that one day, one of those girls is going to be somebodys wife, and somebodys mother.

You know what I don't want to happen to our women?

Well, I was with this girl once who...well, i was REALLY horny, and that night I kind of did some things people would say is completly disrespectful to her, and thats the type of xxxx u'd expect a pornostar to let a guy to do her on camera (like bustin a fat one on her face lol). Anyway, I could tell she didn't like it, but she was too weak emotionally and not confident enough to tell me to stop, and I remember thinking "damn, this girls a hoe and completly irresponsible considering she is going to one day be a mother, and a wife" - and...Cant say I feel good about what happened though. I don't ever wanna see that happening to our women.



They've been raped and disrespected enough through out history.

[Moldy Cheese]

Now as far as me being a HYPOCRITE when I say Armenian women should stay abstinant and the men should not - true. That is hypocritical in nature. But the double standard is logical. DONT DENY IT OR ARGUE AGAINST IT, a womans virginity ALL ACROSS the world has of more value than a mans. ANY MAN would give himself up for sex - men don't care. If a WOMAN was to give herself up everytime she got the CHANCE TO HAVE SEX...she would take on a prostitute like status. But As I said before, the CHANGE that you are insisting on us making shows NO SIGNS of leading us to a more Christian like and socially stable people.

Like my school...and half the girls I've f ucked. It's sad that one day, one of those girls is going to be somebodys wife, and somebodys mother.

You know what I don't want to happen to our women?

Well, I was with this girl once who...well, i was REALLY horny, and that night I kind of did some things people would say is completly disrespectful to her, and thats the type of xxxx u'd expect a pornostar to let a guy to do her on camera (like bustin a fat one on her face lol). Anyway, I could tell she didn't like it, but she was too weak emotionally and not confident enough to tell me to stop, and I remember thinking "damn, this girls a hoe and completly irresponsible considering she is going to one day be a mother, and a wife" - and...I don't ever wanna see that happening to our women.

They've been raped and disrespected enough through out history.

You make me sick.

You're not worth the sh!t of the girl that you disrespected.

[Che_Ka]

It's so clear to me: If you expect your future wife to be 'pure,' then you should expect the same of yourself. Why should your future wife deal with the fact that you've been with other women, if she hasn't been with any other men.

I have Armenian girl friends who come from very shnorkov families, and who are shnorkov girls themselves. They have lost their virginities to long term boyfriends, whom they later broke up with. Big deal.

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You make me sick.

You're not worth the sh!t of the girl that you disrespected.

O well.

I've made my point and expressed my opionin. All you can do is disagree with it, I have not given false information or statistics, even in the areas of generilization.

And I have never shoved this down anybodys throat. At the end of the day, its a matter of opionin and preference - and how a person feels.

[Anonymouse]

Hypocrites are related to hippopotamus'.

[D3ADSY]

Like my school...and half the girls I've f ucked. It's sad that one day, one of those girls is going to be somebodys wife, and somebodys mother.

You know what I don't want to happen to our women?

Well, I was with this girl once who...well, i was REALLY horny, and that night I kind of did some things people would say is completly disrespectful to her, and thats the type of shyt u'd expect a pornostar to let a guy to do to her on camera (like bustin a fat one on her face lol). Anyway, I could tell she didn't like it, but she was too weak emotionally and not confident enough to tell me to stop, and I remember thinking "damn, this girls a hoe and completly irresponsible considering she is going to one day be a mother, and a wife" - and...I don't ever wanna see that happening to our women.

They've been raped and disrespected enough through out history.

You're talking about what you don't want to happen to our women and as an example you give something you yourself did to, presumably, "someone elses's women"?

Jesus Christ what the xxxx is wrong with you? It's like the criminal complaining that the victime was perverted or just as guilty because they were too weak to fight back.

The sad thing is you will one day become a husband and a father. What would be cool is if you got sterlised somehow before all that.

Better yet drink some bleach!