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Will Armenians always hold a hatred towards the Turks?

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  • Will Armenians always hold a hatred towards the Turks?

    Hello Armenians.


    I have Turkish origins and I was wondering if Armenians will always hold a hatred towards all Turks?

    Do you think that there will be a time where Armenians and Turks could be friends?


    Cheers

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    Re: Will Armenians always hold a hatred towards the Turks?

    Do you think there will be a time Turks will acknowledge the truth?
    this post = teh win.

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    • #3
      Re: Will Armenians always hold a hatred towards the Turks?

      Originally posted by Sip
      Do you think there will be a time Turks will acknowledge the truth?
      Well as far as I'm aware there are Turks who already do.

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        Re: Will Armenians always hold a hatred towards the Turks?

        Then there is hope
        this post = teh win.

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        • #5
          Re: Will Armenians always hold a hatred towards the Turks?

          We only hate them for the fact that they've been denying the Geonocide. Ding. Let that little light bulb shine bright, Dude.

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          • #6
            Re: Will Armenians always hold a hatred towards the Turks?

            Yes I am aware of this.

            However even if/when Turkey recognises the Genocide, will Armenians just stop hating Turks in a heart beat? Or will Armenians always hate Turks because of what they have done to them?

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              Re: Will Armenians always hold a hatred towards the Turks?

              Originally posted by Turkish Dude
              Hello Armenians.


              I have Turkish origins and I was wondering if Armenians will always hold a hatred towards all Turks?

              Do you think that there will be a time where Armenians and Turks could be friends?


              Cheers
              There may or may not be a time. However, that many Armenians can form feelings of hate, I believe it to be entirely understandable based on the history. If love is man's sun, hate is man's moon and without one another there couldn't be a spiritual eclipse which really defines man in all that he is and all that he wills to be. Why should we drink from the cup of love and call ourselves human, without having had a sip from the cup of hate and still call ourselves man? Why experience being half-a-human and still insist on calling yourself human?

              Friendship is a matter based on trust, honesty and integrity. How can one be friends with someone who has tried to wipe you off and now continues to mock you? I am fully aware not all Turks were involved and not all Turks participated but is that really a trump card? While actions were limited to a few, thoughts were and always are a part of the many. So long as Turks insist on denying what they have done, any chance of reconciliation is out of the question, and rightfully so. It would be an insult and a spit on the face of my grandfather who witnessed his own parents' throats slashed in front of him by a Turk with his scimitar.

              I hope this helps clarify the gravity of the situation.
              Achkerov kute.

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                Re: Will Armenians always hold a hatred towards the Turks?

                Originally posted by Anonymouse
                There may or may not be a time. However, that many Armenians can form feelings of hate, I believe it to be entirely understandable based on the history. If love is man's sun, hate is man's moon and without one another there couldn't be a spiritual eclipse which really defines man in all that he is and all that he wills to be. Why should we drink from the cup of love and call ourselves human, without having had a sip from the cup of hate and still call ourselves man? Why experience being half-a-human and still insist on calling yourself human?

                Friendship is a matter based on trust, honesty and integrity. How can one be friends with someone who has tried to wipe you off and now continues to mock you? I am fully aware not all Turks were involved and not all Turks participated but is that really a trump card? While actions were limited to a few, thoughts were and always are a part of the many. So long as Turks insist on denying what they have done, any chance of reconciliation is out of the question, and rightfully so. It would be an insult and a spit on the face of my grandfather who witnessed his own parents' throats slashed in front of him by a Turk with his scimitar.

                I hope this helps clarify the gravity of the situation.
                I know Turks have done alot of horrendous and treacherous things to the Armenians (even pre 1915) but if a Turk acknowledged it all and he apologized for the things that he neither did not do and things that happened before his time on this earth. Cant this change your view?

                IF the government of a nation lies about what it perpetrated against your nation, does that mean you can never associate with a person (an individual) from that nation? Could you not ever look beyond his nationality and his ethnicity? Cant you ever accept him as a friend of yours?

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                  Re: Will Armenians always hold a hatred towards the Turks?

                  Originally posted by Turkish Dude
                  I know Turks have done alot of horrendous and treacherous things to the Armenians (even pre 1915) but if a Turk acknowledged it all and he apologized for the things that he neither did not do and things that happened before his time on this earth. Cant this change your view?

                  IF the government of a nation lies about what it perpetrated against your nation, does that mean you can never associate with a person (an individual) from that nation? Could you not ever look beyond his nationality and his ethnicity? Cant you ever accept him as a friend of yours?
                  While there are individuals who are exceptions to the rule and think above and beyond group think, nationalities, races, religions, ideologies are still powerful forces that shape us as individuals whether we like or not.

                  I never said I can never associate with someone who is Turkish. You must understand the difference between association and friendship are as distant as the Earth is from the Sun. If I meet a Turk on the bus, or at school in class and we don't know who we are and by a simple chance this topic comes up, we immediately are aware of ourselves and each other and where we stand. There proceeds a gulping silence, followed by a futile and apathetic tone in both of their voices knowing very well of exactly what just unfolded and how they do not see eye to eye and it's better to leave it at that. If he or she maintains the Turkish government line, I cannot be friends with that person. I will discriminate and I reserve that right as a human to discriminate. I can accept him as a friend if he truly understands just what has transpired on the wheel of history.

                  Just as I reserve the right to be friends with people who deserve my friendship, I just as easily reserve the right to not be friends with those whom I deem are not worthy to be friends with. As humans, we are capable of looking both beyond and within what a person is. People often try to say that "you need to look beyond peoples' race or their religion or nationality", but is this truly sensical? As much as we can look beyond those things, but that is only a part of being human. Those other things that we are urged to look beyond are often entirely what has socialized these individuals whether for good or evil, and that will depend on perspectives.

                  But I think you are noble enough to come here and make a thread inquiring about this, which is a touchy subject, and not resorting to typical mockery, or other things that defeat the purpose of any discussion. As you can see, we are associating with you as a Turk. Who said it can't be possible? Friendship? Even that is a possibility. But, as the gnome krept from within the tree, he reminded me of the difference between probability and possibility.

                  Cheers.
                  Achkerov kute.

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                    Re: Will Armenians always hold a hatred towards the Turks?

                    Originally posted by Turkish Dude
                    Do you think that there will be a time where Armenians and Turks could be friends?
                    Yes, but it is up to Turks and Turkey to bring such a thing into existence.

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