Will Armenians always hold a hatred towards the Turks?

[tunot]

Re: Will Armenians always hold a hatred towards the Turks?

Do you mean if a Turk acknowledges the genocide then theres nothing wrong with being his friend?

Not only the genocide.

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Re: Will Armenians always hold a hatred towards the Turks?

What did the zionist movement have to do with the Armenians?

I dont even know where to start. Maybe the Mouse or some of the other guys here that know about this should tell you - I'm too lazy.

[Anonymouse]

Re: Will Armenians always hold a hatred towards the Turks?

Yes, on a national scale I cannot see how friendship between Armenia and Turkey (and Armenians and Turks) is possible without closure in terms of the genocide and it's recognition.
That said, I don't see why an Armenian and a Turk cannot be friends provided they are both on the same level of thinking in terms of what happened in 1915.
Personally I have nothing but respect and admiration for people like Taner Akcam, and him being a Turk has no negative impact on my opinion, in fact his opinions and views combined with the fact that he is in fact Turkish form the basis of my feelings. And that is the key. The hope for any form of positive interaction, or whatever you wish to call it, between us, lies with the Turkish people, not the Turkish government. Armenians share an equal responsibility. Will we be willing to forgive and move on eventually? What will happen if and when Turkey accepts it's past?
Ultimately it's up to the younger generations on both sides and I believe, sadly, the youth on both sides are being brought up with too much hate.

When one asks for forgiveness, it all depends on the individuals involved, not a holistic entity such as the people.

[tunot]

Re: Will Armenians always hold a hatred towards the Turks?

I dont even know where to start. Maybe the Mouse or some of the other guys here that know about this should tell you - I'm too lazy.

One could blame the Armenian revolutionary movement on Europeans. But we bought it, didn't we?

Oh, I get it. You're trying to convince us that Talaat Pasha and the others were of Juwish stock. Where do you find proof for this sort of stuff?

[Anonymouse]

Re: Will Armenians always hold a hatred towards the Turks?

hey whats your problem traitor so-called turk...after reading your post,I was ABOUT TO WAIL.you must be ashamed of yourself..how can you feel constrained to accept genocide..Im ashamed of you.Idont believe that you are turk.we are very noble nation.but unfortunately we have such kind of traitors as you..my best desire:::may god protect us form traitors as you!!!pity pity pity... be off!!!

You should learn a thing or two from your Turkish friend.

[Anonymouse]

Re: Will Armenians always hold a hatred towards the Turks?

She was hot. We had sex after I convinced her to shave her arms cause they were kind of hairy. None the less she was hott.

I never talked to her about our unique situation - but back than we didn't care. I guess if I saw her again I would deffinitly spark up a convo about this and see what she thinks.

Anyway, the Zionist movenment is more to blame for the Genocide than anything else. But I guess we can't say "the xxxs did it" because governments are not identified by religions or ethnicities - so, regardless of who it was that did it, it was THE TURKISH GOVERNMENT - and it MUST pay the proper retributions to make up for its damages.

I'm tired of the blame game. In all honesty, at this point it doesn't even matter who we blame.

Blame lies in all directions. The Turks are to be blamed, just as much as those Zionists who initiated the Young Turk movement, as they are known in Turkish as "doenmeh". However, as much as we would hate to admit it, Armenians share blame as well, for being pacified to the point of no return, for scattering all over across Turkey even beyond what was historically Western Armenia, betraying one another as usual, and being softened by some aspects of Christianity. You must understand that Islam and Christianity teach very different things.

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One could blame the Armenian revolutionary movement on Europeans. But we bought it, didn't we?

Oh, I get it. You're trying to convince us that Talaat Pasha and the others were of xxxish stock. Where do you find proof for this sort of stuff?

The Turkish author, Mevlan Z. Rifat, was referring to this Donmeh sect by his words "a syncretist xxxish-Muslim sect," when he wrote in his book "Inner Folds of the Ottoman Revolution" 1929.-- "The Armenian genocide was decided in August 1910 and October 1911 by a Young Turk committee composed entirely of displaced Balkan xxxs in the format of a syncretist xxxish-Muslim sect, including Tallat, Enver, Behaeddin Shakir, Jemal, and Nazim posturing as Muslims. It met in the Rothschild-funded Grant Orient loge in now Greek Salonika. No wonder the infrastructure was in place by August by August, 1914, in Erzerum for the Great Massacres, almost three months before Turkey entered the Great War. During World War I and ever since, xxxs have held prominent positions in the Turkish government, including three presidents, Ataturk, Inonu, and Bayar."

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0394472047/qid=1079863484/sr=1-1/ref=sr_1_1/103-1679339-8721468?v=glance&s=books

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Re: Will Armenians always hold a hatred towards the Turks?

I'm tired of the blame game. In all honesty, at this point it doesn't even matter who we blame.

Yes it does because that will determine who is to pay for the reperations.

[tunot]

Re: Will Armenians always hold a hatred towards the Turks?

The Turkish author, Mevlan Z. Rifat, was referring to this Donmeh sect by his words "a syncretist xxxish-Muslim sect," when he wrote in his book "Inner Folds of the Ottoman Revolution" 1929.-- "The Armenian genocide was decided in August 1910 and October 1911 by a Young Turk committee composed entirely of displaced Balkan xxxs in the format of a syncretist xxxish-Muslim sect, including Tallat, Enver, Behaeddin Shakir, Jemal, and Nazim posturing as Muslims. It met in the Rothschild-funded Grant Orient loge in now Greek Salonika. No wonder the infrastructure was in place by August by August, 1914, in Erzerum for the Great Massacres, almost three months before Turkey entered the Great War. During World War I and ever since, xxxs have held prominent positions in the Turkish government, including three presidents, Ataturk, Inonu, and Bayar."

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg...glance&s=books

Any more sources?

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Re: Will Armenians always hold a hatred towards the Turks?

Any more sources?

That book is full of them.

Also, read about the Rothschilds.