vocabulary differences between Western and Eastern Armenian

[The Abyss]

Re: vocabulary differences between Western and Eastern Armenian

gdal - tkal - spoon

Confused the hell out of me the first time I read "tkal." I thought it meant "tqel," to spit.

Also the classic: what is "knstes klres" in Western Armenian?

Tekal-spoon
Tekel- to spit

gue nestis gue leres in western Armenian

[The Abyss]

Re: vocabulary differences between Western and Eastern Armenian

[QUOTE=TomServo]Western Armenian - Eastern Armenian - English:


asang - sens - like this
anang - nens - like that

gantche - zange - to phone

goukamgor - kalis em - I'm coming
gertamgor - gnum em - I'm going


There is no such word as asang or anang in western armenian this is incorrect
it should be:
Aysbes--like this
Aynbes--like that

Gantche is to call
Heratsayne is to phone

Yes goukam- I'm coming
Yes gertam- I'm going
the usage of gor is not incorrect but it is not makour hayeren, it's more like slang

[tunot]

Re: vocabulary differences between Western and Eastern Armenian

gdal - tkal - spoon

Confused the hell out of me the first time I read "tkal." I thought it meant "tqel," to spit.

Also the classic: what is "knstes klres" in Western Armenian?

[tunot]

Re: vocabulary differences between Western and Eastern Armenian

I think "gantchel" is slang too. It should be "heratsaynel."

My Western Armenian is not good enough for me to make judgments. All I know is that "zangel" in Eastern Armenian is not slang.

[TomServo]

Re: vocabulary differences between Western and Eastern Armenian

I think "gantchel" is slang too. It should be "heratsaynel."

[tunot]

Re: vocabulary differences between Western and Eastern Armenian

Western Armenian - Eastern Armenian - English:

Some of these are slang:

inchbes - vonts - how

In Hayastan, people more commonly use "inchpes," as in "inchpes eq?"
In Persian Armenian "vonts" is more common, as in "vonts es?"

hos - estegh - here

"estegh" is 'slang' for "aystegh"

hon - entegh - there

ayntegh

asang - sens - like this

aysents

anang - nens - like that

aynents

noren - eli - again

Also: norits

doun - dan - house

That's not true. Eastern Armenian has "tun." The inflected locative form is "tan/n" as in "tan mej," in the house. "tan" is often considered to be literary Armenian. More commonly in dialects, including Persian Armenian, you'll hear people say "tunum," "tnum," or "tun@."

[quote]yeghpayr - aper - brother[/b]

Slang again. Eastern Armenian is "yeghbayr."

zarnel - khpel - to hit

Also "zarkel."

shinel - sarkel - to make

Yes, "shinel" in Eastern Armenian comes closer to "construct," such as constructing a building.

[TomServo]

Re: vocabulary differences between Western and Eastern Armenian

Western Armenian - Eastern Armenian - English:

parev - barev - hello
inchbes - vonts - how
hos - estegh - here
hon - entegh - there
asang - sens - like this
anang - nens - like that
gantche - zange - to phone
loknal - loghanal - to bathe
goukamgor - kalis em - I'm coming
gertamgor - gnum em - I'm going
noren - eli - again
vargian - robe - minute
toun - dou - you
doun - dan - house
kesh - vad - bad
yeghpayr - aper - brother
zarnel - khpel - to hit
shinel - sarkel - to make

[The Abyss]

Re: vocabulary differences between Western and Eastern Armenian

I heard the Halebcis use it and it's also used in Armenia, and I guess also Iran.

edit: I don't know if Western Armenian has the word հայաթ, also used for թաղ in Armenia.

NO such word in Western Armenian.
Its not even pure Eastern Armenian word, because Hayat is an arabic word that means Life

[Vlad_Arm]

Re: vocabulary differences between Western and Eastern Armenian

It shouldn't be. Whether it's Eastern or Western, Armenian is beautiful. I'd say, if you don't know which form to learn, learn the one that you think you'll use more. For example if you live or will live amongst Western speakers then learn the Western dialect. Or, just get the best teaching material and use it, irrelevant of whether it's Western or Eastern.

If you want to sound funny, I recommend you to learn the Gyumri dialect. Call it Yerevanci bias, but I was always in tears from laughing when I heard spoken Guymri Armenian when I was a kid.

Yea that is funny. Whatever they say it sounds funny.

[karoaper]

Re: vocabulary differences between Western and Eastern Armenian

Hmmmm...one would think all this would prove to be a deterrent for somebody learning, and yet, it is not.

It shouldn't be. Whether it's Eastern or Western, Armenian is beautiful. I'd say, if you don't know which form to learn, learn the one that you think you'll use more. For example if you live or will live amongst Western speakers then learn the Western dialect. Or, just get the best teaching material and use it, irrelevant of whether it's Western or Eastern.

If you want to sound funny, I recommend you to learn the Gyumri dialect. Call it Yerevanci bias, but I was always in tears from laughing when I heard spoken Guymri Armenian when I was a kid.