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  • #411
    Originally posted by willy_wonka
    and this is what levon panos Dabagyan(an Armenian historian) says about the relationship between Armenian and Ottomans:

    "Armenian had many honorable service for Ottoman Empire for centruies.However some countries who had secret plans above Ottomans like England, France, Russia and USA, brainwashed Armenian by being religion brother to reach their aims and divided Armenians to sectarian and in years had Armenians in their control and made Armenians revolt against Turkey..."

    these messages are for people who can discuss about these subjects without abusing...so if what a man know about history consists of abusing then he shouldn't discuss in forums that i see and believe it's serious like here...
    Yes, the great Armenian historian Panos Dabagyan. Who is he? Maybe you could read Halil Berktay?
    General Antranik (1865-1927): “I am not a nationalist. I recognize only one nation, the nation of the oppressed.”

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    • #412
      do not say that Ottoman Empire treated Armenian in bad ways...do not do this.do you think he prevented Armenian from doing what their religion tells...
      here this is what they say:"there is the sound of mosque in one of our ear and the sound of the church in the other"
      joseph i have never read halil berktay...i will read at once but i have heard of a primeminister of Armenia whose books were put under a ban because of his confessions...confessions about revolting against Ottomans in WW1.

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      • #413
        Originally posted by willy_wonka
        here this is what they say:"there is the sound of mosque in one of our ear and the sound of the church in the other"
        Thus, there was never a genocide?

        Great reasoning.

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        • #414
          Originally posted by willy_wonka
          do not say that Ottoman Empire treated Armenian in bad ways...do not do this.do you think he prevented Armenian from doing what their religion tells...
          here this is what they say:"there is the sound of mosque in one of our ear and the sound of the church in the other"
          joseph i have never read halil berktay...i will read at once but i have heard of a primeminister of Armenia whose books were put under a ban because of his confessions...confessions about revolting against Ottomans in WW1.
          Is it so basic???

          What about murdered people in Ottoman???

          I don't wait any response form you.

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          • #415
            it was for the treat of ottoman to Armenia...
            i dont know how much you know about ww1 in the view of Turks, (the great struggle against many nations and the victory) but i see that you dont know about O.E. if you had you should have firstly learned about the tolerance of this empire to many nations in his land...
            nobody can deny the tolerance of Ottoman E. to other nations in his lands...
            i wrote in this point of view

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            • #416
              Originally posted by willy_wonka
              it was for the treat of ottoman to Armenia...
              i dont know how much you know about ww1 in the view of Turks, (the great struggle against many nations and the victory) but i see that you dont know about O.E. if you had you should have firstly learned about the tolerance of this empire to many nations in his land...
              nobody can deny the tolerance of Ottoman E. to other nations in his lands...
              i wrote in this point of view
              Ok.I see.I can't deny Ottoman's tolerance in the beginning but it was changed in the last and unfortunately it made genocides.

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              • #417
                Originally posted by willy_wonka
                it was for the treat of ottoman to Armenia...
                i dont know how much you know about ww1 in the view of Turks, (the great struggle against many nations and the victory) but i see that you dont know about O.E. if you had you should have firstly learned about the tolerance of this empire to many nations in his land...
                nobody can deny the tolerance of Ottoman E. to other nations in his lands...
                i wrote in this point of view
                I suggest you re-read Joseph's post then.

                www.armeniangenocide.com
                http://www.armeniangenocide.com/forum/showpost.php?p=17542&postcount=681

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                • #418
                  why do you think it changed?

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                  • #419
                    no no tongue, there were many Armenians in the government and also i can say that many delegates of O.E. in Europa were also Armenian.
                    joseph wrote about triple taxes and the inequality but i dont think that you have enough idea about what constitutional monarchy1 and constitutional monarchy-2 says in the ends of 18s...

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                    • #420
                      Originally posted by willy_wonka
                      why do you think it changed?
                      Maybe the slogan "Turkey for Turks" should ring a bell? Just maaaaybe..

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