Turkey's challenge to the Armenians

[matteo]

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Shame on you Tongue, how dare you ban someone who says Armenian genocide is a lie and you're all prevaricators? Is that it? You're complaining about Armenians being given authority, let me ask you something, what happens in Turkey when someone uses the 'G' word?

Let me elaborate a little bit more why you should be ashamed:

Neither Nevermindname nor myself claimed that Morgenthau denies the genocide. However, Nevermindname made a very powerful point, and showed that even the pro-Armenian, and genocide-recognizing Morgenthau devoted pages to attrocities committed by Armenian militants against civilian Turks.

But of course this is not your approach. Not only genocide-deniers, but also those who point to attrocities committed by Armenians are guilty of treason! Why? You stated it yourself:

And about Morgenthau, the person is denying the genocide, yet quoting Morgenthau. You see where this is going?

The reason behind your paranoia is justified. Even when someone doesn't deny genocide, Morgenthau's account can raise the following questions:

Armed Armenians also killed innocent Turkish civilians?
Armenian militants also pillaged, sucked Turkish villages, quarters and hamlets?
Did these acts, given that most of these Armenians were Ottoman citizens, amount to treason and rebellion?

Indeed, these are dangerous questions with 'G' obsessed people. However, even if the true answer to all these questions is yes, it does not prove or disprove genocide. For once, you should be concerned with the presented facts rather than being paranoid about where these facts will lead you.On the contrary, by denying the Turks the right to be sufferers and victims as well, you are being a true disgrace as I stated before.

Sorry that I don't give a damn whether these quotes were taken from a Turkish, Armenian, or Martian website, what matters is that Morgenthau also wrote about barbarous acts committed by Armenians. Or do you claim that even your semi-God Morgenthau is lying about Turkish sufferings?

About the 'G' word, the Turkish translation is 'soykirim' which means genocide. Soykirim is a popular topic of discussion in Turkey today, and not a taboo like you ignorantly claim. Many academicians use the word, without putting 'sozde' (meaning so-called) in front of it. Some are Halil Berktay, Selim Deringil, Taner Akcam, Murat Belge. With the exception of Akcam, all are tenured professors at prestigious Turkish universities, and they will remain so. They are not banned, threatened or pressured.

Trying to convince the Turks (or the entire world) that the genocide took place is one thing, denying (both verbally and mentally) the Turks the basic human qualities is another. Until you realize this, you are doomed to show allergic reactions whenever Turks present you with facts which you don't like.

[Tongue]

instead of giving me an aswer about hodjalı you are asking me something else..is it a general strategy of armenians?? answering by questions?? is it so hard to say that yes armenians did massacre and torture in hodjalı??

Well you see, I was gonna take the "liberal teaching" method over the "brainwashing" one with you, since that's what I'm used to. To do a do a cause and effect analysis, instead of having someone arrange all the necessary conditions for belief. I was gonna take you back four years and show you what Azeri turks did to Armenians in the village of Sumgait. I was gonna have you do a research on Sumgait on your own and find the answer to your Khojaly question....But it seems like, you're used to the brainwashing method, surprise surprise, so lets stick to that.

Do you know the exact date of Khojaly? No you don't. You said it was 15 years ago, but it was actually 13 years ago. Anyway, It happened on February 25-26, 1992... But what happened on February 27-28 of 1988? Exactly four years prior to khojaly? It was the Pogroms of Armenians in Sumgait, a town by Baku, by Azeri turks. You know what happened? Azeri thugs broke into apartment buildings with prepared in advance lists of Armenian tenants residing there. 53 people were set afire alive after being savagely beaten! Many women, among them minor girls, were raped. A bloody barbaric scene. Now can you see how Khojaly was a revenge? You can't let people take advantage of you for ever. You need to stand up for yourself, and that's what we did. We need to have our enemies fear us, if not we'll always be massacred and destroyed by them. So what happened in Khojay was an answer to the barbaric kilings of Sumgait. I think both were horribly wrong and shouldn't have happened. But it did. So when you’re bringing up Khojaly, please mention what happened prior to that, that lead to the incidents in Khojaly.

[imported_Hellektor]

Regurgitating the same Injust McFarty garbage

You my friends need this genocide in order to survive as a nation.

We cannot be your friends with your attitude. We have survived invasions for thousands of years and we have survived the Genocide so don't worry about our survival.

You are calling my grandfathers as killers and i m ready to discuss with you but you are not ready to listen what we say.

Your grandfathers and your great grandfathers and your great great grandfathers and your great great great grandfathers were all savage, barbaric, nomadic two legged humanoid beasts. Just read history: Chingiz, Temur, Qubilai, Mango, Seljuk, Hulagu...Abdulhamid, Talaat, Kemal were all blood thirsty, man eating, rape crazy, child stealing, cities to cinders razing, mass murdering genocidal maniacs. In order to shake off this negativity and start being part of the civilized human race, you should face your history.

After repeating one sided history for millions of times how can you expect us to not tell our side of the past??

We expect you to face your history, this is what I have been repeating for millions of times and you all have avoided to address this issue.

1915 Van events were ''clear and present'' danger for the Ottomans who were trying to survive.

1915 Van events were an act of self-defense, but you self-righteous Turks would like to see them bend their necks to your scimitars and not resist. I have yet to hear from anyone of you why on earth such a backward primitive nomadic bunch of cattle herders are so self-satisfied.

And as many turks i believe that deportation was the best solution .

Then you confirm that you're a genocidal maniac like your grandfathers. This is our homeland of thousands of years we are talking about.

Otherwise after 1918 there wouldnt be any muslim living in anatolia .

I replace Muslim with Turk and I don't give a damn. You cunningly play the religion card again. I have dealt with this issue and many others in my posts.

If you think you sound reasonable and convincing then I should quote you: "sorry guys it doesnt work"

[imported_Hellektor]

Regurgitating the same Injust McFarty garbage 2

NOW I M ASKING YOU....WOULD ARMENIAN GOVERNMENT ALLOW EXPERTS MAKE A CONFERENCE IN ERIVAN NAME ''SO CALLED ARMENIAN GENOCIDE??''' ...OR ARMENIAN TV OR PAPERS CAN MAKE ANY INTERWIEW WITH ANY MAN WHO SAYS IT WASNT GENOCIDE BECAUSE OF.......???????

Erivan your ***. The fact of the Armenian Genocide is irrefutable. There are tens of thousands of documents, thousands of video taped survivor accounts, hundreds of books and memoirs of eye witnesses of different nationalities, all of our historic monuments that you are destroying up to this very day, yet you just regurgitate the same Injust McFarty crap and you want us to organize a conference to deny this all. You are brain damaged beyond repair.
This is the deal put it in your Mongol brain:

Armenians lived in their homeland for thousands of years, then the Turks invaded and after centuries of abuse they decided to empty Armenia from its indigenous inhabitants. As a result no Armenians live in their ancestral home anymore. End of story.

dont teach us democracy!! armenia is 200 year behind from turkey when the subject is democracy....

We cannot hope to teach you to face your own history let alone democracy. And in the 200 years ahead Turkey, Kurds who are 30% of the population, could not dare speak their language until recently, while a Kurdish minority in Armenia has more rights than any Kurds in any Islamic country. So shove it 200 meters "behind from turkey".

And pls one of you tell us the Hodjalı town!!! tell us about 650 innocent civilian turks killed in the most barbaric ways.Its not that old..just 15 years old..When you say armenian civilisation you mean Hodjalı?????

Oh, PLEASE! You make me cry. It was YOU who did it YOU. Even your own president admitted it. So if you are bringing this up to equate us with your savage grangfathers or lighten their sins, then you are either:

I. Uninformed, then read the following.
II.A cunning, conniving, sly SOB, trying to defame the Armenians. If this is the case, then I should like to see you get the fokk out of this forum.

"Perhaps, the most detestable fraud created by the Azerbaijani propagandists in recent years is the hoax of so-called Khojaly (Xojalli) Massacre. In late February 1992, when Armenian self-defense units had to disarm the Azeri military base in the town of Khojaly in central Karabakh, gunmen of the ultranationlist Popular Front of Azerbaijan (PFAP) slaughtered some 100 Azeri civilians who were fleeing the embattled town through a land corridor left for them by the Karabakhi Armenian forces.

Later, the PFAP gunmen mutilated the bodies of the dead Azeris and mixed them with the killed-in-advance Armenian hostages, which were taken prisoners by them a month earlier. Because the Armenian forces did not want to harm Khojaly civilians, they issued an advance warning of the attack, requesting the Azeris to allow any civilians to evacuate. This has been independently corroborated by Russian observers and by the testimonies of Azeri survivors of the attack.

Despite the obvious fact that the Armenian units by no means had any access to and never controlled the territory where the massacre took place, as it was located deep in the Azeri rear, late Azeri agitators ridiculously accused Armenians in killing Khojaly civilians, making a world-wide propaganda show out of this tragic event.

The exact reasons for why the PFAP's gunmen killed Khojaly's Azeri civilians remain unclear to date. According to some experts, it happened by mistake (by friendly fire), while in the opinion of the Azeri former president Ayaz Mutalibov it was a deliberate attempt to defame his administration by his rivals from the PFAP. It is notable that after the events in Khojaly Mutalibov was forced to resign. It is also important to note that Azeri operator Chingiz Mustafayev, who filmed the dead bodies and later launched an independent investigation on the Khojaly events, was killed in Azerbaijan under mysterious circumstances, reportedly by PFAP thugs.

At any rate, the Khojaly slaughter highlights a key fact that Azeris are still a fragmented nation, parts of which continue maintaining strong regional identities, with tribal self-images sometimes prevailing over the identity as of "the Azeris." Under these circumstances, killing the representatives of a rival clan is not a totally unimaginable occurrence. (See interview with Ayaz Mutalibov in Nezavisimaya Gazeta newspaper, 2 April 1992, in Russian)."

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More on Khojalu http://www.un.org/documents/ga/docs/52/plenary/a52-85.htm

United Nations A/52/85



General Assembly
Distr. GENERAL

3 March 1997

ORIGINAL:
ENGLISH

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A/52/85
S/1997/180



GENERAL ASSEMBLY SECURITY COUNCIL
Fifty-second session Fifty-second year
Item 114 (b) of the preliminary list*
HUMAN RIGHTS QUESTIONS: HUMAN RIGHTS
QUESTIONS, INCLUDING ALTERNATIVE
APPROACHES FOR IMPROVING THE
EFFECTIVE ENJOYMENT OF HUMAN RIGHTS
AND FUNDAMENTAL FREEDOMS

* A/52/50.


Letter dated 3 March 1997 from the Charge' d'affaires a.i.
of the Permanent Mission of Armenia to the United Nations
addressed to the Secretary-General


I have the honour to forward to you herewith the text of a
statement issued on 3 March 1997 by the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of
the Republic of Armenia.

I should be grateful if you would circulate the statement as a
document of the General Assembly, under item 114 (b) of the
preliminary list, and of the Security Council.


(Signed) Movses ABELIAN
Charge' d'affaires


ANNEX

Statement issued on 3 March 1997 by the Ministry of Foreign
Affairs of the Republic of Armenia


The Azerbaijani statement of 22 February 1997, with regard
to what they call the Khojalu event, is the most cynical and
vicious statement ever made by Azerbaijan.

Azerbaijan refers shamelessly to a 1992 military event, where,
according to then-Azerbaijani President Mutalibov, the responsibility
for the slaughter of the civilian population of the mostly Azeri city
of Khojalu near the capital Stepanakert of Nagorny Karabakh fully
falls on the Azeri opposition group, the Azerbaijani National Front.

In the days following the event, President Mutalibov, in an
interview with Czech journalist Dana Mazalova published in the 2 April
1992 issue of the Russian newspaper Nizavisimaya Gazeta, said that the
militia of the Azerbaijani National Front actively obstructed and
actually prevented the exodus of the local population through the
mountain passages specifically left open by Karabakh Armenians to
facilitate the flight of the civilian population.

(On this matter, the September 1992 report of the Helsinki Watch
international non-governmental organization quotes an Azerbaijani
woman who says that Armenians had notified the Azerbaijani civilian
population to leave the town with white flags raised.) In fact the
Azerbaijani militia shot those who attempted to flee.

The hope and intention of the Azerbaijani opposition was to
utilize civilian losses of such a magnitude to instigate a popular
uprising against the Baku regime and seize the reins of power.
Azerbaijan does not stop at simply distorting the truth. Not only
does it falsely attribute its own opposition's merciless slaughter of
Khojalu's civilian population to Armenians, it brazenly characterizes
the killings as "distinctively inhumane and cruel" and "massacres".
In so doing Azerbaijan fully comprehends that for the Armenian people
these terms unfailingly evoke memories of massacre and genocide in
Armenians' distant - and recent - past.

It is not coincidental that Azerbaijan has dared to make this
statement on the anniversary of the most bloody event of Armenia's
recent history. On 28 February 1988, when the people of Nagorny
Karabakh were arguing by peaceful and constitutional means for their
right to self-determination, Azerbaijani authorities organized and
armed a mob, which began pogroms against Armenians in the Azerbaijani
city of Sumgait. The Sumgait massacres were followed by killings and
pillaging in Gianja in November 1988 and Baku in January 1990.

In the spring of 1991, the very leaders of the current Azerbaijani
regime, assisted by the Soviet Army, organized the depopulation of the
Armenian regions of Northern Artzakh, and the deportation of the
Armenian population of Nagorny Karabakh and the surrounding 24
regions. Helsinki Watch, in the above-mentioned report, testifies
that "these events were intended to exacerbate the fear and horror of
ethnic Armenians in other parts of Azerbaijan" and lead to the
deportation and ethnic cleansing of more than 600,000 Armenians.

These atrocities were followed by a cycle of large-scale
Azerbaijani military offensives and operations designed to produce a
military solution to the conflict by annihilating the population of
Nagorny Karabakh.

Although such acts have all taken place in the last decades of the
twentieth century, the people of Nagorny Karabakh experienced a
similar fate during the first two decades of this century as well.
The massacres and pogroms of 1905 in Baku, and 1918 and 1920 in
Shushi, where the entire city of Shushi was burned and its whole
population was annihilated, are still vivid memories.

Therefore, this statement can only be seen as a crude, gross
violation of the norms and principles of international law. While
fostering an aggressive and exclusive nationalism, Azerbaijan
blatantly promotes and incites ethnic hatred towards the population of
Nagorny Karabakh, with whom it continuously claims it can peacefully
and harmoniously live together. Further, Azerbaijan proclaims it can
guarantee Karabakh's security and peaceful existence, even while it
advances distrust and enmity by falsely accusing Armenians and
callously misrepresenting its own role and responsibility in recent
events.

The Ministry of Foreign Affairs of the Republic of Armenia once
again reiterates the warning sounded by the President of Armenia,
Levon Ter-Petrossian, during the Lisbon summit of the Organization for
Security and Cooperation in Europe, that, in the event of imposed
Azerbaijani rule on Nagorny Karabakh, the people of Nagorny Karabakh
will face the threat of genocide.


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[imported_Hellektor]

Deaf, Dumb, Insolent, Ignorant, Arrogant...

turks dont give a xxxx ...

Turks never give a xxxx because they are *****

instead of giving me an aswer about hodjalı you are asking me something else..is it a general strategy of armenians?? answering by questions?? is it so hard to say that yes armenians did massacre and torture in hodjalı??

I have answered this in the last post so if you missed it here it is once again in red like your flag, so that you blood thirsty Turk don't miss it:
By the way with every post you reveal that you are one intolerant, rude, violent, aggressive, savage, barbaric, nomadic, cattle herder Mongolo-Tatar, Kipchak-Kutugur-Gokturk SOB and I'd like to see you out of this forum.

"Perhaps, the most detestable fraud created by the Azerbaijani propagandists in recent years is the hoax of so-called Khojaly (Xojalli) Massacre. In late February 1992, when Armenian self-defense units had to disarm the Azeri military base in the town of Khojaly in central Karabakh, gunmen of the ultranationlist Popular Front of Azerbaijan (PFAP) slaughtered some 100 Azeri civilians who were fleeing the embattled town through a land corridor left for them by the Karabakhi Armenian forces.

Later, the PFAP gunmen mutilated the bodies of the dead Azeris and mixed them with the killed-in-advance Armenian hostages, which were taken prisoners by them a month earlier. Because the Armenian forces did not want to harm Khojaly civilians, they issued an advance warning of the attack, requesting the Azeris to allow any civilians to evacuate. This has been independently corroborated by Russian observers and by the testimonies of Azeri survivors of the attack.

Despite the obvious fact that the Armenian units by no means had any access to and never controlled the territory where the massacre took place, as it was located deep in the Azeri rear, late Azeri agitators ridiculously accused Armenians in killing Khojaly civilians, making a world-wide propaganda show out of this tragic event.

The exact reasons for why the PFAP's gunmen killed Khojaly's Azeri civilians remain unclear to date. According to some experts, it happened by mistake (by friendly fire), while in the opinion of the Azeri former president Ayaz Mutalibov it was a deliberate attempt to defame his administration by his rivals from the PFAP. It is notable that after the events in Khojaly Mutalibov was forced to resign. It is also important to note that Azeri operator Chingiz Mustafayev, who filmed the dead bodies and later launched an independent investigation on the Khojaly events, was killed in Azerbaijan under mysterious circumstances, reportedly by PFAP thugs.

At any rate, the Khojaly slaughter highlights a key fact that Azeris are still a fragmented nation, parts of which continue maintaining strong regional identities, with tribal self-images sometimes prevailing over the identity as of "the Azeris." Under these circumstances, killing the representatives of a rival clan is not a totally unimaginable occurrence. (See interview with Ayaz Mutalibov in Nezavisimaya Gazeta newspaper, 2 April 1992, in Russian)."

A/52/85 Ltr. from Permanent Mission of Armenia on Human Rights

[imported_Hellektor]

Still regurgitating McFarty vomit and insulting a great hero

Drastamat Kanayan, a.ka. "General Dro," whose last name means "one who bleeds" in Turkish, but this mass murderer knew how to make others bleed.

Mass murderer your ***. He is a HERO so try to diffrentiate between the two.

His reputation made by massacring women and children (that is, apparently, the coward literally targeted women and children) of Muslim villages during World War I,

What proof do you present for this, when you don't have the slightest fokking idea who you are talking about. I bet my life you just heard of Dro some very short time ago, and that from filthy revisionist McFartyist mouths. And YOU are the cowards who first recruited all the young Armenian men in 1915 and treacherously executed them, so you could carry out the diabolically PLANNED Armenian Genocide, and walk millions of women, children and elderly to the desert to roast. You kill women and children not Armenians so do not project.
In the same manner you carried out the killings of Sumgait, Baku and Gandzak.
In the same manner the chickenxxxx psychopath Ramil Safarov brutally mutilated Gurgen Markarian in his sleep last year and instead of apologizing, your brave siblings glorified the coward killer as a hero.

the general put his "skills" to work for Adolf Hitler a few decades later. Commander of the infamous 819th Armenian battalion during World War II; recognized as the 'Jew Hunter' by the Nazis.

"the infamous 819th Armenian battalion" did not participate in any mission, thus did not carry out any Nazi crimes. In fact it was disbanded very soon. The reason they had to join the German Army was because you TREACHEROUS, barbaric, savage Mongols wanted to persuade Hitler that Armenians were Semetic, so that they would be annihilated by Hitler and your filthy Pan-Turkist dream would come true once and for all.
This was a move on the part of BRAVE Dashnaktsoutioun to save their people from yet another genocide. So they proved that the Armenians were Arians, and saved their people from your abominable, Genocidal plan.

Condemned to be shot by a firing squad of Stalin's goons,

You're a goon and you don't even know it! By this sentence you mean that he was a good man and Stalin was evil. And of course, the Psychopathic mass-murdering Stalin who killed 20 million of his people should fear the Revolutionary Dashnaks.

The Nazi-hunting Simon Wiesenthal organization must have ignored him because he was only a poor, innocent Armenian (and Holocaust Man Elie Wiesel evidently does not even care),

Unlike you, they are not ignorant. They did not ignore him. He did not do anything against the Jews. So stop this spreading of filth and check some trustworthy historic sources.

and Dro not only escaped justice, his remains were flown into Armenia in 2000 (once Armenian-Americans reportedly raised almost a quarter of a million dollars in just two days) and honored in a huge ceremony by that country's president and chief patriarch.

They honored him because he is a hero, you honor Talaat who is a killer of an entire nation; man I feel like throwing up...
You have escaped justice for a thousand years, and even if we are to wait another thousand years, we will finally make you pay.

[Tongue]

Hellektor, don't get worked up. He's not worth it! He doesn't have the slightest clue about who Dro was, the sentence he posted is a copy paste from the Tallarmeniantale site. Seriously, their entire knowledge about the genocide, and Armenians comes from that site! I've noticed, ALL the quotes and information they post is taken from that site...

He's just a troll, he'll be gone soon, just like the rest of them.

Oh and the article you posted on Khojaly was VERY interesting!

[imported_Hellektor]

Ignorant, Arrogant, Insolent, Incorrigible...

Current Armenian government is composed of dashnak terrorists who got power with their guns and killed elected people in the parliament.

You insolent fool. Armenian government is a coalition that also includes member of the greatest political party on earth who has survived since 1890.
If it wasn't for Dashnaks Aram Manoukian, Garegin Njdeh, Gevork Chavoosh, Serop Aghbyour (Serob Pasha) and countless other shining stars of the Dashnak Galaxy, your diabolical Pan-Turkist dream would have come true and there would be no Armenians left on earth. Dashnaks are a thorn in your jealous slanted eyes and a pain in your Mongolic azz, that's why you constantly throw excrement at them. I advise you to do two things so that Dashnaks won't irritate you anymore:
I. eat your heart out then,
II. eat schitt and die

How come Mr Chirac can host Kocharyan who is in power after such an terrorist campaign?? Mr Chirac should first make a memory exercise about Algeria!

Follow my previous advice.

When i read this forum i see such racist comments.Turks prevented a great Armenian culture and civilisation!!! woww which civilisation?? if turks didnt come to anatolia greek church would asimilate armenians centuries ago.Armenians who were living in kilikia were deported to that region by Byzantium in order to asimilate and join the greek church.Not any powerfull independent armenian state is existed in the history.

You are so blinded with hatred that you don't even see what garbage you are throwing at us. What do you want? What are you doing invading Armenian forums and spewing your gall at us? As if all the pain you inflicted upon us the last thousand years was not enough. It's dumbazzes like you who confirm our negative views of Turks. It seems you don't even care. You are just a sadistic masochistic poor sod who enjoys being referred to as barbarian time and again. Otherwise, you would bring your arguments in a more civilized manner.
If your fascist government feeds you crap and you don't know anything about our history you should have the decency to shut the phuk up.
Armenians migrated to Cilicia to get away from your all-destroying, savage, barbaric, nomadic, cattle herder Seljuk kin and not from the Byzantines, you ignorant fool. They built one of the most advanced civilizations of the time despite hundreds of invasions by Seljuks and Mamluks, read some history.
I have stated the names of the Armenian kings in another post, so you should check that before you insult our civilization. By the way, what have YOU brought humanity? Chingiz, Temur, Holagu, Kubilai... What has the great Empire of Pillage, Plunder, Rape and Mass Murder known as the Ottoman Tyranny added to human civilization? Give me a break and go rape yourself.

I give you the links to some maps that prove beyond doubt that Armenia existed since the dawn of history and prove yet again that:
I. Eastern Anatolia has NEVER existed.
II. A country called Azerbaijan north of the Arax River has NEVER existed before 1918.
III. Armenia has ALWAYS existed, and the ONLY country represented on the first known world map, known as the Babylonian Clay Tablet still existing, is Armenia. We never gave you permission to change the name of our country after your having occupied, pillaged, plundered, raped and razed it to the ground.
By calling our country "Eastern Anatolia", you only confirm that the Genocide did indeed happen.

Babylonian Clay Tablet 600 BC

Babylonian Clay Tablet 600 BC Interpreted

Ptolemy Tabvla nova Asia Minoris 1513

Sebastian Munster Asia Minor 1544

Philippe de La Rue: Asia Minor 1652 (Section)

Frederik de Wit Nova Persiae Armeniae Natoliae et Arabiae 1662

Kiepert: Asian Turkey 1872 (Section)

What happened is very clear.When ottomans lost power all minorities did look for independence.In the balkans even where the turks were the majority with violence and ethnic cleansing christian majority is established and independent states are formed by the great help of the western powers.

You don't have the faintest, microscopic idea of what "clear" means! They LOATHED you from the beginning; they wanted to get rid of your tyranny, they wanted to send you back to hell where you came from; you were/are OCCUPIERS, INVADERS, PLUNDERERS, you were NOT INVITED, all the nations subjected to your savage rule CURSED and DAMNED you all along; you were perceived as worse than cancer, more infectious than the bubonic plague. What does it take to get this in your damaged brain?

The armenians tried to the same thing.But this time there was a difference.After balkans turks had anatolia to escape this time there wasnt any place to move.Anatolia was the only place for Turks.What should we do??

You should commit GENOCIDE, right? Poor things you make me bleed...
You should go back to the steppes of Central Asia where you came from or wherever the hell you please. Didn't you say that Armenians could go to hell (or something similar) at the Lausanne conference and stole Armenia from us, and did any imperialist western power give a damn?

Watch u stealing our land with terror and help of the imperialist countries.Armeinans invaded Van and hand it to the Russian troops after killing the muslim population.?? What would any other state do??

Steal YOUR land? Armenians invaded Van? VAN IS AN ARMENIAN NAME you pathological liar. You are a sick xxxx. I cannot tolerate your bullxxxx anymore, I'm no more Mr. Nice Guy; get the hell out.

Moderator, throw this garbage out of the forum, he's so full of hate and so full of it that he's beyond hope of one day being integrated in human society.

[imported_Hellektor]

Smear your Injust McFarty garbage somewhere else

appearently u like questions..yes here some questions..

The rubbish this retard collects and pastes from the same Injust McFarty garbage can do not deserve to be dignified with a middle finger.
However, I will start a thread, time permitting, and I will rebut the charlatan "hystorian" sometime soon.
Unlike this lazy Mongol I spend hours typing, so this is going to take some time.