What did Turkish Americans do on April 24?

[taboo]

Again it comes to the same conclusion.

So what is the big deal for asking Turkey (in which it has nothing to do with Ottoman Empire) to recognize Armenian genocide?

It is almost asking to England to recognize Armenian genocide... NO???

Because, The modern Turkey, has no connection at all with the Ottoman Empire and it is not the continuation of it.
This is the bigest fact that some Armenians are trying to neglect.

So what is the reason that the Armenian genocide claimers call "Ottoman Empire" as "Ottoman Turkey"?? What is the reason to make a false connection between Turkey and Ottoman Empire.

Turkey is not responsible about what Ottoman Empire did since the begining. Turkey has no agenda of killing or mass murdering or anything like that.
So what is the reason of this claims.
It almost feel like Armenian genocide claimers slowly slowly will drop the "Ottoman Empire" name and in short they will call "Turkey".


Thanks

[imported_nemesis]

Again it comes to the same conclusion.

So what is the big deal for asking Turkey (in which it has nothing to do with Ottoman Empire) to recognize Armenian genocide?

It is almost asking to England to recognize Armenian genocide... NO???

Because, The modern Turkey, has no connection at all with the Ottoman Empire and it is not the continuation of it.
This is the bigest fact that some Armenians are trying to neglect.

Thanks

Again why did humanity asked Germany to apologize for the crimes committed against Jews?..Clearly everyday germans and todays germans had nothing to do with the Nazi "Germany" but this is a double edged -sword because you cannot walk around and brag about how you (turks) ruled half of the world and talk about great victories in your textbooks and then suddenly come out and say uppss actually now really we had nothing to do with that... those were the ottomans

[taboo]

Again why did humanity asked Germany to apologize for the crimes committed against Jews?..Clearly everyday germans and todays germans had nothing to do with the Nazi "Germany" but this is a double edged -sword because you cannot walk around and brag about how you (turks) ruled half of the world and talk about great victories in your textbooks and then suddenly come out and say uppss actually now really we had nothing to do with that... those were the ottomans

That is a different story. Because the modern Germany has been build by the same people. There are even some Nazi people who are living in Germany now.
Germany back than has the same ideology and more or less the same government. It is not like Turkey in which we build completely new country, we fought for it bravely. There is no similarities or continuation of Ottoman in Turkey politically. Politically, ideology, relegiosly, and in many other aspects Turkey is completly seperate than Ottoman Empire.
This is a fact, and has been recognized by all countries of the world.


Okay, having the Ottoman empire in our text books and feeling proud with their history is another thing. That is an emotional thing but not political. We also do feel connected with the Turk still living in Asia. And actually our ancestors came from Asia.

One thing that i really dont understand is; how come rest of the mass murdering are not talked by any one else. Forexample, the things happened in US to the native Americans, or the things just happened in Ruanda.
I gues there is no profit really connected to those things i asume.

[NikosSampson]

I've said it before. Lets give them a bit of a taste of their own medicine, A Christian Alliance of Russia, Armenia, Serbia, Greece and Bulgaria forming to combat these Muslim Barbarians. They and their xxxxing Jihads have murdered so many, so why dont we give a good old fashioned crusade to show them what its like to be on the recieving end?

[imported_Diana]

That is non of your business. Who is the nationalist we or you? See who is talking....
All the people in Armenia are heros. They survive in oppose to your dreams. The whole country is blocked out by you and your favorite brothers Azerbadjan. But their social lifestyle is in the high level compared to your uneducated people.

Armenians won't live in Turkey but in Armenia. Do you understand? In Western Armenia that you possess as Eastern Turky.

The American-Armenians will build our country. Don't you worry about our fairs.

[imported_nemesis]

That is a different story. Because the modern Germany has been build by the same people. There are even some Nazi people who are living in Germany now.
Germany back than has the same ideology and more or less the same government. It is not like Turkey in which we build completely new country, we fought for it bravely. There is no similarities or continuation of Ottoman in Turkey politically. Politically, ideology, relegiosly, and in many other aspects Turkey is completly seperate than Ottoman Empire.
This is a fact, and has been recognized by all countries of the world.


Okay, having the Ottoman empire in our text books and feeling proud with their history is another thing. That is an emotional thing but not political. We also do feel connected with the Turk still living in Asia. And actually our ancestors came from Asia.

One thing that i really dont understand is; how come rest of the mass murdering are not talked by any one else. Forexample, the things happened in US to the native Americans, or the things just happened in Ruanda.
I gues there is no profit really connected to those things i asume.

First things firts the then Ruling party "Ittihat and Terraki" called themselves "Young Turks" and their ideology was based on the doctrine of ultra-nationalism (turancilik) whose traces can be found in some of today's political parties(MHP, Alparslan Turkes(dead now))...that's why you say u feel connected to the Turks in Asia...(funny because the same turks Tlat pasha wanted to unite under pan-turkism ended up killing him ) when it comes to religion clearly Turkey is a secular country now thanks to Ataturk but yet your religion is the same (so u do have the same religion as Ottomans) and yes todays Turkey is different than the Ottoman times...so why didn't anyone comeout publicly and say what ur saying instead of flat out denying it?

now todays Germany has nothing to do with Nazi Germany as far as ideology goes
on the second part ur partially right but civilized nations have come out and apologized for the crimes they've committed
USA=Indians
Germany=Jews
France=Marocco

not only that these people come and make movies about these things criticizing themselves...can you imagine Turkey coming out and apologizing and someone making a movie in Turkey about the crimes committed..
Orhan Pamuk tried to talk about it and almost got crucified by the media its books were burned

[taboo]

Muslim Barbarians

Watch your language body.
This shows who is in hatred i guess.

[NikosSampson]

Watch your language body.
This shows who is in hatred i guess.

Listen friend, when they take your land like they did in Cyprus, they take the crosses out of the churches, they urinate on them, they burn down the church, put a mosque there, destroy all your gravestones of your family. Then you will think this way. All the time they hate and go on about 'infidels' and want to enforce 'shariah' on everyone because they think it 'gods word'. I am sick of having to put up with this, Muslims complain and complain and complain, they abuse the rights we give them, people like Abu Hamza who says that BRitain should be attacked by Al Qaeda because it is a good thing but we in Britain who pay taxes pay for him.

They will always hate christians, why not return the favour?

Also I think you should go to some ARabic muslim sites like al-jazeera and see their shameful reporting on things like Armenian Genocide. Just because Turkey is a muslim country they stand by them, right or wrong.

I am sick of muslims inicting their stupid 'holy war' on us.

[taboo]

What holly war???
what a f**k are you talking about.

There were no holly war in cyprus. Turkey is not carrying Muslim ideology.
If there were a holly war %100 of you wiped out already.

It was just group of Greek people provocing the cypriot people and they comitte crime to the Turkish people living in Cyprus. And Turkey act to protect the turkish people in there, but it get out of control. It was the bigest mistake.

What holly war you are talking about???
Are you Crazy??

[imported_nemesis]

Listen friend, when they take your land like they did in Cyprus, they take the crosses out of the churches, they urinate on them, they burn down the church, put a mosque there, destroy all your gravestones of your family. Then you will think this way. All the time they hate and go on about 'infidels' and want to enforce 'shariah' on everyone because they think it 'gods word'. I am sick of having to put up with this, Muslims complain and complain and complain, they abuse the rights we give them, people like Abu Hamza who says that BRitain should be attacked by Al Qaeda because it is a good thing but we in Britain who pay taxes pay for him.

They will always hate christians, why not return the favour?

Also I think you should go to some ARabic muslim sites like al-jazeera and see their shameful reporting on things like Armenian Genocide. Just because Turkey is a muslim country they stand by them, right or wrong.

I am sick of muslims inicting their stupid 'holy war' on us.

on another note Niko this discussion is not about religous hatred that's another story this is about the truth and denial