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  • #21
    There is no subjectivity of the Armenian Genocide. It is a fact. The Armenian National Institute does discuss the causes of the Genocide in its FAQ, but you are free to look up the chronology and determine the cause for yourself. I need not speak any more on this issue. One thing though: Hitler did not blame Jews for losing World War II because World War II happened during the Jewish Holocaust. Hitler blamed the Jews of creating a tainted German state and blamed them for economic and social troubles.

    You have Kurds in your government? Well, then how can you justify the United States government being racist when there are ~33 African Americans, ~68 women, and ~19 Hispanics in Congress? How can there be racism against Native Americans when Ben Nighthorse Campbell single-handedly created the Department of Indian Affairs? I'm telling you, if you find racism, you can find the same racism anywhere.

    The Young Turks were not nationalist or racist? You haven't answered why the Armenian Genocide or the casualty intensive displacement of Kurds doesn't count as a racist policy. It may also surprise you to know that in the 20th centure the Ottoman empire was on its deathbed. Many of the Balkan states had been clamouring for independence, while those living inside the Ottoman empire (Armenians, Greeks) tended to mind their own business as Turkish citizens. The dilapidated mess of the empire had been consumed by radical ideas and actions. Cue Armenian Genocide.

    You should know that the United States is not a liberal democracy. Every U.S. Government class teaches that the United States is a republic. Most American citizens do NOT want America to act like an imperialist power (This is why Bush's approval rating is ~35%). In a republic, its very clear that not everyone is equal. The point of the United States is not to make everyone equal, but to give everyone equal opportunity, and in such a multicultural society its almost impossible to do.

    Also, understand that America is not pure capitalist. Programs such as the Social Security commission, Security Exchange Commission, Congress of Labor Organizations, Tennessee Valley Authority, FEMA, MediCare, and non-profit organizations such as the American Red Cross, UNICEF, and WWF are ALL examples of socialist programs. America protects its minority more than you think.

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    • #22
      "Azeri"????

      Originally posted by elendil
      Hellektor...calls Bakü with its Armenian name, claims Azeri is a non-existent nation.
      I would like you to show me a historic document from before the creation of this fake nation that refers to a nation called "Azeri".
      When you do that, then you are eligible to say:
      Originally posted by elendil
      He is a loser... I wish I could say good things for him.Tough luck
      I have to check my language, otherwise I would say I don't give a semi-flying duck for you to "say good things for" me.
      Four things denialist Turks do when they are confronted with facts:

      I. They change the subject [SIZE="1"](e.g. they copy/paste tons of garbage to divert attention).[/SIZE]
      II. They project [SIZE="1"](e.g. they replace "Turk" with "Armenian" and vice versa and they regurgitate Armenian history).[/SIZE]
      III. They offend [SIZE="1"](e.g. they cuss, threaten and/or mock).[/SIZE]
      IV. They shut up and say nothing.

      [URL="http://b.imagehost.org/download/0689/azerbaijan-real-fake-absurd.pdf"][COLOR="Red"]A country named Azerbaijan north of the Arax River [B]NEVER[/B] existed before 1918[/COLOR][/URL]

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      • #23
        Originally posted by hitite
        Who told you I was a Turk ????

        ????????

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        • #24
          Originally posted by cosmos2
          The two Armenian nationalists took their tails between their legs. You are clearly serve for imperialist aims. You are not real Armenians you are faschists. I suppose both of them or one of them joined to the Asala.

          Confess that are you faschists?
          :My good fellow cosmos2,
          After all that, may I offer you:.
          As matter in fact, it was too much. Let me offer you another
          FIDEL

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          • #25
            Not taking into account the principle of cause and effect

            Originally posted by Vogelgrippe
            ........
            Elendil, Cosmos

            Here the postings of Hellektor and Reincarnated Am show that they hate everything Turkish with their whole hearts, regardless of genocide recognition.Even if a mistake (??? H.) committed a century ago is corrected (When? H.), they come up with something supposedly (??? H.) done thousand years ago, and keep on hating.
            It seems you guys just don't want to let it enter your heads.

            This barbarity is going on NOW! but you put your "heads" in the sand and pretend everything's OK.

            This is:
            I. Cultural genocide.
            II. Desecration of religious symbols.
            III. Destruction of centuries old priceless heritage.
            IV. Annihilation of unique works of a unique art form, not found among any other people.
            V. Disrespect to the dead.
            VI. A desperate attempt to eliminate all evidence of a horrendous crime.
            VII. A despicable attempt to appropriate land that belongs to others.
            VIII. A coward act of savagery by a "people" who claims to be part of humanity and civilization.
            IX. The continuatin of the Armenian Genocide.
            X. The living proof of the Armenian Genocide.

            A barbarity of this magnitude can only breed hatred, I for one have a serious difficulty believing that this species of virus can be considered human.

            You always forget the principle of cause and effect, just like "Azeris" who wail like hyenas and whimper like swine and howl like wolves that Armenians have "occupied" "their" territory, while it was THEY who started the war.
            Four things denialist Turks do when they are confronted with facts:

            I. They change the subject [SIZE="1"](e.g. they copy/paste tons of garbage to divert attention).[/SIZE]
            II. They project [SIZE="1"](e.g. they replace "Turk" with "Armenian" and vice versa and they regurgitate Armenian history).[/SIZE]
            III. They offend [SIZE="1"](e.g. they cuss, threaten and/or mock).[/SIZE]
            IV. They shut up and say nothing.

            [URL="http://b.imagehost.org/download/0689/azerbaijan-real-fake-absurd.pdf"][COLOR="Red"]A country named Azerbaijan north of the Arax River [B]NEVER[/B] existed before 1918[/COLOR][/URL]

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            • #26
              Passionate confessions

              Originally posted by cosmos2
              Originally posted by elendil
              Blah, blah, blah, yada, yada, yada...
              Rant to show that it is a smart azz (H.)
              My Baby, I love you.
              You could PM your confession and save us the visualization of two Turks...
              Oops, I have to be careful with my language!
              Four things denialist Turks do when they are confronted with facts:

              I. They change the subject [SIZE="1"](e.g. they copy/paste tons of garbage to divert attention).[/SIZE]
              II. They project [SIZE="1"](e.g. they replace "Turk" with "Armenian" and vice versa and they regurgitate Armenian history).[/SIZE]
              III. They offend [SIZE="1"](e.g. they cuss, threaten and/or mock).[/SIZE]
              IV. They shut up and say nothing.

              [URL="http://b.imagehost.org/download/0689/azerbaijan-real-fake-absurd.pdf"][COLOR="Red"]A country named Azerbaijan north of the Arax River [B]NEVER[/B] existed before 1918[/COLOR][/URL]

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              • #27
                Originally posted by elendil
                When they have smt to say you can learn from, listen to them. Otherwise dont mind Cosmos, you must see Hellektor's posts are posted in a state of anger, fury, without thinking just to insult. He is a guy who sits at home, sees the posts of Turkish people of the forum, gets enraged by what he reads then attacks Turkish nation and its nationality concept to hide his helplessness for the current situation since it is after all Turkey that has the distinct advantage. He calls Bakü with its Armenian name, claims Azeri is a non-existent nation. The guy, so enraged and bitter, can not comprehend the concept of nationality has shifted from race-based to culture-geography based identity which is why today's Turks though far away from central-Asia are Turks still. He is a good archiver that must be handed but the rest is the parrot which he accuses the Turks that post here of being
                Dont mind him. He is a loser... This is the first post I personally commented on someone, I wish I could say good things for him.Tough luck
                Look who’s calling who “a loser”, at least he’s an Armenian in an Armenian forum giving some fact to all your Turkish B.S.s. unlike you, has nothing better to do, you browse the Armenian forums and try to aggravate us with your lies and ungrounded comments. Don’t like it here? go and start your own forum and write all the B.S. you like!

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                • #28
                  Originally posted by cosmos2
                  Is your answer this Reincarnated?

                  Reincarnated is too lazy to write something
                  where are you Reincarnated?
                  maybe he has not enough time because of praying

                  Reincarnated lays yourself open to criticism about his infantosexual perversion
                  where was your god, Reco?
                  when your ancestors were subjected to the annihilation

                  Reco believes the reincarnation
                  where were you Reco?
                  when your ancestors were subjected to assimilation

                  Reco believes the reincarnation
                  In which kind of appearance were you Reco?
                  maybe you have sunk deeply into the devotion

                  Reco loves the Jesuss
                  where was your Jesus, Reco
                  when the Armenian childs were remained motherless.

                  This is my answer Reco (Reincarnated).
                  You can kill someone’s body but you cannot touch someone’s spirit, the proof is the Armenian spirit, we came back to bite you from your “wants to join the EU” asses. And yes it is not just my sacred mission but it’s the mission of thousands and thousands of Armenians to remind the entire world who really Turks are!

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                  • #29
                    Good stuff! Comes in handy!

                    Originally posted by sue35205
                    @cosmos2

                    ...may I offer you.
                    As matter in fact, it was too much. Let me offer you another
                    Thanks sue35205.
                    I would like to forward these to a happily in love Turkish couple.
                    These may come in handy for cosmos2 & elendil for their nuptials.
                    Four things denialist Turks do when they are confronted with facts:

                    I. They change the subject [SIZE="1"](e.g. they copy/paste tons of garbage to divert attention).[/SIZE]
                    II. They project [SIZE="1"](e.g. they replace "Turk" with "Armenian" and vice versa and they regurgitate Armenian history).[/SIZE]
                    III. They offend [SIZE="1"](e.g. they cuss, threaten and/or mock).[/SIZE]
                    IV. They shut up and say nothing.

                    [URL="http://b.imagehost.org/download/0689/azerbaijan-real-fake-absurd.pdf"][COLOR="Red"]A country named Azerbaijan north of the Arax River [B]NEVER[/B] existed before 1918[/COLOR][/URL]

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                    • #30
                      Deserving Reply to Cosmos2

                      My fellow "cosmos2":
                      Click image for larger version Name: girlgun03.jpg Views: 1 Size: 11.8 KB ID: 537647, please click on this first and verify that you are clean, NOT “Ayip” and I do hope that you did not run out of the following in your elaborate winnings:
                      .


                      Originally posted by cosmos2
                      ......... American flag had been brought and waving with pride. ..Korea, Vietnam, Afghanistan, Iraq and nearly on all of the world…. killing innocent people for favor but not for imperialist benefits!!! .
                      It remains the duty of America to exterminate infestation of threatening crawling treacherous xxxx-roaches from the surface of this earth, even though they may walk on two feet. And, I am so sorry that we had to exterminate your ideological brothers in all those places, NOT!

                      Originally posted by cosmos2
                      compare the Turkish and US history then decide which one is more flawed. .
                      Without a doubt, my answerer is that Turkey is flawed to the chore. Reason being, in US, we acknowledge our inner problems, we accept our past wrongs, and we try our best to reverse our mistakes. We even went through a civil war in the US for the abolition of slavery where hundreds of thousands of white-Americans died toward freedom of Nigros/Blacks whom you referenced. Can you tell that about Turks? Turks are so-low that they are not even willing to recognize the Genocide which they committed.

                      Spirit of a Turk is the same as a rogue dog. The only language he understands is POWER, a MASTER, since absent of a master, it is in his nature to violate women, children, week, and innocent, as Turkish History reflects.

                      However, the world can rejoice because America is holding the Turkish leash these days.
                      <-------Obedient US Turky
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